BP haters

[Bob Sacamano]

if Bill stays, and brings in Dick LeBeau to coach our D, would you feel a little better about our chances this year?

 

[iceberg]

if Bill stays, and brings in Dick LeBeau to coach our D, would you feel a little better about our chances this year?

why do we have to keep this at the "extreme" and then act surprised when the conversations get that way?

i don't "hate" bp - i hate the job he's done here and think if it wasn't for his past, he'd be gone already. while i understand people think he can still do it, many of us simply disagree.

why it gets so personal to some and results in this "hater" talk is sometimes beyond me.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

ice, just yesterday you coined yourself a BP hater, and have no problems calling us BP apologists

just answer the question

 

[DragonCowboy]

why would that help any of us that hate brainpaint?

 

[Alexander]

why do we have to keep this at the "extreme" and then act surprised when the conversations get that way?

i don't "hate" bp - i hate the job he's done here and think if it wasn't for his past, he'd be gone already. while i understand people think he can still do it, many of us simply disagree.

why it gets so personal to some and results in this "hater" talk is sometimes beyond me.

Coming from someone who has labeled anyone who supports Coach Parcells a variety of choice adjectives himself, I find the irony in this post rather thick.

 

[iceberg]

ice, just yesterday you coined yourself a BP hater, and have no problems calling us BP apologists

just answer the question

just tired of the extremes. using "the lingo" seems to get you in trouble around here.

but in answer to the question - as long as parcells is here, his influence is here. i think his influence is a negative one these days and detrimental to the team.

hence, i wont be happy til he's gone.

but i love the man - just love him!

 

[iceberg]

Coming from someone who has labeled anyone who supports Coach Parcells a variety of choice adjectives himself, I find the irony in this post rather thick.

well i'm glad it didn't get by you - but again, lets leave out all the extreme talk that led up to whatever we say on EITHER side and just spin it your won little way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

just tired of the extremes.

:laugh2: you...tired of extremes?

but in answer to the question - as long as parcells is here, his influence is here. i think his influence is a negative one these days and detrimental to the team.

how is his influence negative, the players seem to like him

 

[iceberg]

:laugh2: you...tired of extremes?

how is his influence negative, the players seem to like him

yea, i could see the love oozing off the field. if i said the players hated him you'd call me on it and wonder how i could say such a thing. yet...

nevermind.

i love bill.

 

[Alexander]

well i'm glad it didn't get by you - but again, lets leave out all the extreme talk that led up to whatever we say on EITHER side and just spin it your won little way.

I call them as I see them. Don't throw rocks and then call truce later on as you pretend to not have a stance.

 

[BigDFan5]

yea, i could see the love oozing off the field. if i said the players hated him you'd call me on it and wonder how i could say such a thing. yet...

nevermind.

i love bill.

there are quotes "hoping to god" he returns, you hve any saying they wish him gone?

 

[iceberg]

I call them as I see them. Don't throw rocks and then call truce later on as you pretend to not have a stance.

oh yea - i back down all the time.

that's just me.

fyi - i call 'em as i see 'em myself but i'm not the one saying what i see is right and getting smug about it.

 

[iceberg]

there are quotes "hoping to god" he returns, you hve any saying they wish him gone?

no i sure don't so i guess that just says everything. normally yea, players just come out and WHINE WHINE WHINE.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

yea, i could see the love oozing off the field. if i said the players hated him you'd call me on it and wonder how i could say such a thing. yet...

nevermind.

i love bill.

in the latest TSN edition, Ware was asked a question about what stood out about Parcells? he said that him pushing them to be the best, how he's a nice guy off the field and treats them like his children, and gives them life-pointers

a report, when this whole decision thing got started, that the players wanted BIll back

now I'm not seeing very many examples from your side

 

[BigDFan5]

no i sure don't so i guess that just says everything. normally yea, players just come out and WHINE WHINE WHINE.

no but normally players dont come out and say how much they wanna play for the guy and hope he comes back if it isnt true

 

[iceberg]

in the latest TSN edition, Ware was asked a question about what stood out about Parcells? he said that him pushing them to be the best, how he's a nice guy off the field and treats them like his children, and gives them life-pointers

a report, when this whole decision thing got started, that the players wanted BIll back

now I'm not seeing very many examples from your side

i never said he was a bad guy - just a bad coach for this team right now.

great gm - bad coach.

now i'm supposed to find people talking smack about a legend or i fail to prove he's a bad coach?

reaching for any connection at all, huh?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

no i sure don't so i guess that just says everything. normally yea, players just come out and WHINE WHINE WHINE.

Tiki Barber had no problem complaining about Coughlin, Plax, players do voice their fustrations about coaches

 

[gbrittain]

if Bill stays, and brings in Dick LeBeau to coach our D, would you feel a little better about our chances this year?

I am not a BP hater at all. I am a BP doubter. I have not seen anything the last four years to make me think next year is going to be so awesome.

Yes, I would feel much better if Dick LeBeau was coaching our D with complete authority.

I am no Zimmer fan, but as my sig says, to lay the defensive egg all on Zimmer is more than naive.

I hope and want BP to succeed, but again I just want someone to tell me based on logic why they think next year will be different if it is same ole same ole at Valley Ranch.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

reaching for any connection at all, huh?

did you, or did you not, just say this ice?:

i think his influence is a negative one these days and detrimental to the team.

I'm not just pulling things out of my arse, I'm replying to specific things you say

 

[Big Dakota]

if Bill stays, and brings in Dick LeBeau to coach our D, would you feel a little better about our chances this year?

Well, let me be the first poster to actually ANSWER your question. I'd feel about as good as when Bill first came here, and that's GREAT!! LeBeau is as good as they come with the 3-4 and our O is already good. We'd have a real chance to win one with that scenario IMHO.