BP haters

[big dog cowboy]

Asking a question about a hypothetical situation is always tricky. However I have to believe that LeBeau wouldn't take the job unless he has assurances from BP that he could do his own thing and not do as BP pleases. Given that circumstance, I would answer your question 'yes'.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well, let me be the first poster to actually ANSWER your question. I'd feel aout as good as when Bill first came here. LeBeau is as good as they come with the 3-4 and our O is already good. We'd have a real chance to win one with that scenario IMHO.

there's no reason why that scenario should fail

our biggest problem was the D, and it's lack of pressure, getting a true-blue 3-4 coordinator will go a long ways to improving that, as well as finding a FS who can cover and allow Roy to play closer to the LOS, another pass-rusher, and the DEs beating their man in the pass-rush

 

[iceberg]

did you, or did you not, just say this ice?:

I'm not just pulling things out of my arse, I'm replying to specific things you say

and that doesn't mean i think he's a bad guy "as a person" who'd refuse to give "little life pointers" now does it?

a bad influence isn't the same as a bad person unless you just need it to be, like it seems.

i don't care for bp - i've made that very clear.

you'll defend him and make up stuff to defend.

i ain't that adventerous in my dislike for his coaching ability. if there's an online award to win for this brilliant and tireless defense, i nominate you for it and you can win the internet award - whatever that is today.

but bp still sucks as a coach for this team now.

 

[iceberg]

Well, let me be the first poster to actually ANSWER your question. I'd feel about as good as when Bill first came here, and that's GREAT!! LeBeau is as good as they come with the 3-4 and our O is already good. We'd have a real chance to win one with that scenario IMHO.

um... i have already answered the question - he just didn't like it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

a bad influence isn't the same as a bad person unless you just need it to be, like it seems.

what else is a bad influence ice?

you'll defend him and make up stuff to defend.

how am I making up you calling him a bad influence?

 

[DragonCowboy]

you'll defend him and make up stuff to defend.

and you know very well that others will make up stuff with which to attack him.

 

[iceberg]

what else is a bad influence ice?

how am I making up you calling him a bad influence?

you're not - but you're making it my saying he's a bad person.

 

[Big Dakota]

there's no reason why that scenario should fail

our biggest problem was the D, and it's lack of pressure, getting a true-blue 3-4 coordinator will go a long ways to improving that, as well as finding a FS who can cover and allow Roy to play closer to the LOS, another pass-rusher, and the DEs beating their man in the pass-rush

Not to mention Cowher MAY come in 2008.

 

[bbgun]

um... i have already answered the question - he just didn't like it.

And since it comes from one of the biggest misanthropes at CZ, the irony is delicious--and no doubt lost on him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you're not - but you're making it my saying he's a bad person.

in·flu·ence

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əns/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-floo-uh

ns]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciationnoun, verb, -enced, -enc·ing.
–noun 1.the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others: He used family influence to get the contract. 2.the action or process of producing effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of another or others: Her mother's influence made her stay.

 

[iceberg]

in·flu·ence

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flu

əns/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-floo-uh

ns]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciationnoun, verb, -enced, -enc·ing.
–noun 1.the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others: He used family influence to get the contract. 2.the action or process of producing effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of another or others: Her mother's influence made her stay.

bad people can have a bad enfluence on people - sure.

good people can be a bad influence on something for a variety of reasons - but you just won't have it, so nevermind.

like i said, you're now making up my side for me so just go on w/o me for awhile and you should be fine.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not making up anything ice, you said negative influence, that only means one thing

a good person cannot, in anyway, be a negative influence

 

[DragonCowboy]

I'm not making up anything ice, you said negative influence, that only means one thing

a good person cannot, in anyway, be a negative influence

unless of course, the one being influenced is bad.

for example. a good, successful person may be a bad influence on someone who is jealous of them. however imo, it's the jealous guy's problem.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

unless of course, the one being influenced is bad.

for example. a good, successful person may be a bad influence on someone who is jealous of them. however imo, it's the jealous guy's problem.

ok iceberg Jr. :laugh2:

 

[DragonCowboy]

ok iceberg Jr. :laugh2:

:laugh2:

I had to say it. Opportunity knocked, and I kicked the door down.

 

[silverbear]

why do we have to keep this at the "extreme" and then act surprised when the conversations get that way?

i don't "hate" bp - i hate the job he's done here and think if it wasn't for his past, he'd be gone already. while i understand people think he can still do it, many of us simply disagree.

why it gets so personal to some and results in this "hater" talk is sometimes beyond me.

Yeah, there's no haters in here... nobody starting threads titled "Why I think fat boy Parcells is staying "...

Don't even make me go into a dozen other threads and quote the vast array of entirely gratuitous, utterly unrelated to football, criticisms he's gotten... still can't figure out why so many in here are obsessed with his man boobs... I suspect that a lot of those critics have that particular problem themselves, and are trying to console themselves with "well, at least his are bigger than mine"...

But naw, there's no "hating" in any of that...

Maybe you personally haven't edged over into mindless hating, but you're being willfully obtuse if you can't see that a lot of other folks are...

 

[silverbear]

oh yea - i back down all the time.

that's just me.

Yeah, you've always been a regular shrinking violet when it comes to confrontation...



Me, too... and I wouldn't have it any other way-- would you??

 

[dbair1967]

if Bill stays, and brings in Dick LeBeau to coach our D, would you feel a little better about our chances this year?

is he going to leave LeBeau alone and let him do the game planning and play calling on D?

David

 

[silverbear]

unless of course, the one being influenced is bad.

for example. a good, successful person may be a bad influence on someone who is jealous of them. however imo, it's the jealous guy's problem.

IOW, it all depends on what the definition of "is" is...

 

[panchucko]

BP just needs to go.
Let him live by his own rules.

GROP.