BP says that Sean Taylor cost the skins the game... maybe... LOL

[NeonNinja]

Roy got fined for annilihating Coles and that was a clean hit. Also flagged for hitting Leftwich TOO hard.

 

[5Stars]

if thats the case, then i have no problem with the call.

He may not have intentionally tried to do that, but, it's clear that it happened. But, those sort of mistakes can happen during real time, playing as fast as they play. What he should have done, was just extend his hands and try for the ball, or shove the guy out of bounds...but, he went for the big hit, and his helmet just so happend to smack into the side of Robinson's helmet...

 

[5Stars]

Roy got fined for annilihating Coles and that was a clean hit. Also flagged for hitting Leftwich TOO hard.

Roy speared Leftwich...that was the right call! He cannot lead with the crown of his helmet...

 

[juck]

sean taylor is like a young roy in that all he does is go for the big hit.it was helmet to helmet ,but i think ,isnt that why they wear the helmet in the first place?lol.wussy game now,rugby can hit however they want,no pads.

 

[AdamJT13]

heh i guess we're just gonna have to disagree.

Disagree all you want. But that doesn't change the fact that Taylor's helmet hit Robinson's helmet.

 

[Hostile]

except it wasnt helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver. Taylor lowered and used his shoulder.

After the ball went by though correct?

 

[apickmans]

After the ball went by though correct?

how was taylor supposed to know the ball was gonna go through his hands? He has to assume hes gonna make the catch, thus he hit him hard to dislodge the ball.

 

[AdamJT13]

ive been looking for a video- do you have a link?

No. I have it on TiVo. If I see a link, though, I'll post it.

i thought the call was the old defenseless receiver thingy. i also thought the ball was tipped and still in play, in which case taylor can hit him, so long as its not helmet to helmet/spearing. but, again, i could be wrong. i cant keep up with the latest rules and interpretations.

If Taylor had hit him lower and without using his helmet, it would have been a legal hit. It wasn't a late hit. He was flagged for using his helmet.

 

[riggo]

After the ball went by though correct?

if it wasnt helmet to helmet (which it apparently was- i havent seen a replay since the game), and the ball was tipped and still 'in play', i think taylor can hit him (as long is its not spearing or helmet to helmet). am i right on that?

 

[apickmans]

if it wasnt helmet to helmet (which it apparently was- i havent seen a replay since the game), and the ball was tipped and still 'in play', i think taylor can hit him (as long is its not spearing or helmet to helmet). am i right on that?

right on that

 

[riggo]

No. I have it on TiVo. If I see a link, though, I'll post it.

thanks.

If Taylor had hit him lower and without using his helmet, it would have been a legal hit. It wasn't a late hit. He was flagged for using his helmet.

i thought they called a 'hit on a defenseless receiver'? i didnt realize they called spearing or helmet to helmet? not that it matters- if it was helmet to helmet and they just called the defenseless WR thingy, i think its still a 15 yarder.

 

[5Stars]

thus he hit him hard to dislodge the ball.

And the force of his "hit to dislodge the ball" also caused his helmet to hit the receivers helmet! What part of that do you not understand?

Are you old enough to drink? Were you drunk? Shesssh !!!

 

[riggo]

right on that

at least they havent made a rule against that.

yet.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Roy got fined for annilihating Coles and that was a clean hit. Also flagged for hitting Leftwich TOO hard.

Given RW's rep he'll probably be fined for the hit on Leftwich

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Rich, didnt the ball hit the receiver in the hand or his finger tips? If so Taylor has the right to try to dislodge the receiver from the ball right? Ive seen the replay a couple times and thats what i can remember.

Your right Roy does do it as much as Taylor does, except Roy never gets flagged for it (of course except this past sunday) and thats why its BS.

Roy didn't get flagged, but wound up getting fined for a similar hit to Lav Coles in '04. Roy did spear Leftwich, but even I had a couple of Jags fans that thought that shouldn't have been flagged (I disagree with them).

I remember in '02 Seattle's Darren Jackson caught a pass by jumping in the air and Darren Woodson absolutely obliterated him. In fact, Jackson had to go to the emergency room as he had a seizure in the shower after the game.

Woodson hit Jackson cleanly with the shoulder...no helmet whatsoever and was fined for it. The league said it was a "launch" in that you can't drill a defenseless WR when he's up in the air. Woodson supposedly had to wait for Jackson to land on the ground and then drill him.

So yeah, Taylor has the right to break up the pass, but the league has in the past flagged and/or fined guys for drilling WR's when they have the ball in the air.

I don't like the rule and I've seen several players get away with it (Rodney Harrison is the Babe Ruth of getting away with it), but I can see why Taylor was flagged on that play.

I'll have to watch the replay of hit again to see if Taylor's helmet touched Robinson. If it did, I still can't believe it had much force behind it.


YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

i thought they called a 'hit on a defenseless receiver'? i didnt realize they called spearing or helmet to helmet? not that it matters- if it was helmet to helmet and they just called the defenseless WR thingy, i think its still a 15 yarder.

They just said "unnecessary roughness" which can be interpreted in a million different ways.


YAKUZA

 

[apickmans]

Ok i just watched a clip of it on my friends computer. The ref says and i quote " personal foul..unnecessary roughness..defense #21.....lowering his head to the chest of defenseless receiver." so the call is wrong and therefor BS

 

[Avery]

It was a good call, the ref did a poor job of actually explaining it.

Whatever the case may be, it's getting harder and harder for defenders to play the game anymore nowadays.

 

[Hostile]

how was taylor supposed to know the ball was gonna go through his hands? He has to assume hes gonna make the catch, thus he hit him hard to dislodge the ball.

They call it keeping your head up until the catch is made.

Not a new concept, but one apparently foreign to you.

If Robinson catches that ball, probably no flag. Personally, I like that kind of hitting, but let's at least be honest about why there was a flag huh? Can you do that?

 

[apickmans]

They call it keeping your head up until the catch is made.

Not a new concept, but one apparently foreign to you.

If Robinson catches that ball, probably no flag. Personally, I like that kind of hitting, but let's at least be honest about why there was a flag huh? Can you do that?

Haha. Hey guy, Robinson actually has the ball on his fingertips when taylor goes for the hit. So you want Taylor to let the receiver catch the ball and possibly get a big gain for a first down. Personally I would rather they not get a first down on a big pass. Not a new concept, but maybe one foreign to you. According to the Ref, Taylor hit a defenseless player in the chest, but since he wasnt defenseless.....it was a bad call. Easy right? All i said in the beginning was that the ref made a bad call.