Breakdown of Weeden's 108.8 season rating

[noshame]

So we need to draft a QB with Weeden skills and a Romo head and we're set.

 

[Idgit]

You have to read the whole article and watch the all 22. They didn't necessarily change the scheme or personnel, but they did commit to stopping the run in the 2nd half (they were "predicting our run plays") and began cheating on the underneath routes, particularly Dunbar's. In both circumstances, it was because they knew we weren't going to pass deep or we had formulaicly committed to an obvious run.

Not sure which article you're referring to, but I did watch the 22. You have any examples of plays where they were 'cheating the underneath routes' on Dunbar? Maybe I just missed it.

They ran basically the same coverages against the same looks the entire game.

 

[Idgit]

W Romo 103.3 Manning 70.7
W Romo/Weeden 106.0 Bradford 65.6
L Ryan 109.1 Weeden 87.8
L Brees 119.4 Weeden 105.6

Whelp. That's a better reply than the long thing I was typing up about how our defense hasn't helped Brandon Weeden out enough.

 

[Sydla]

Basically........... we have a **** ton of problems going on here. LOL.

 

[DFWJC]

I know many will disagree, but I've said all along that as far as backups go, Weeds isn't a disaster.
Just hoping/praying that we somehow get a couple of wins with him (or Cassel) at the helm sometime in the coming weeks.

 

[LandryFan]

I am not trying to keep knocking on the guy ..but my point is enough with these numbers .. they look good..but during the game he (as did other players) was the problem for killing drives ..

The numbers are accurate. They quantitatively give a picture of his performance. The other method of evaluating his performance around here is "my eye test" and "he sucks".
The fact is, he has done at least as good, if not better, than we could reasonably ask of a backup QB. If other components of the team would pull their weight, we would likely be sitting a game or two better than we currently are.

 

[Idgit]

...The fact is, he has done at least as good, if not better, than we could reasonably ask of a backup QB. If other components of the team would pull their weight, we would likely be sitting a game or two better than we currently are.

You're right, of course. But even if you weren't, the real question is whether or not there's another QB on the roster right now who could do better, and there's not, so the rest of it all is academic.

Let's start by getting a visiting QB who leaves with a passer rating of under 100 and see how much more of a winner Brandon Weeden can become.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

It's clear that late in the game, they load up the box and dare Weeden and these WRs to beat them deep. Delvin Breaux shut down Williams for the majority of the game Sunday.

Change shut down to mugged and I agree.

 

[LandryFan]

You're right, of course. But even if you weren't, the real question is whether or not there's another QB on the roster right now who could do better, and there's not, so the rest of it all is academic.

Let's start by getting a visiting QB who leaves with a passer rating of under 100 and see how much more of a winner Brandon Weeden can become.

Absolutely! He may not be Romo, but he's the best realistic option. It is what it is. If some had their way, we would be benching "he sucks" and replacing him with "he sucks worse". Hurry back, Tony.

 

[Rack]

Says 0 TD'S to the right but the tying td to Williams vs the saints was to the right.

 

[dallasdave]

Change shut down to mugged and I agree.

 

[dallasdave]

Says 0 TD'S to the right but the tying td to Williams vs the saints was to the right.

 

[percyhoward]

Says 0 TD'S to the right but the tying td to Williams vs the saints was to the right.

Actually, it just says td. The "1" got erased, but the rating does reflect that touchdown.

 

[burmafrd]

Have to laugh at those that claim eye tests are subjective then claim that 'their' eyes see better.

 

[Section446]

Here we go again with Percy manipulating statistics again. No QB in Cowboys history has ever been a poor player.

 

[percyhoward]

Here we go again with Percy manipulating statistics again.

Does that accusation have any proof with it?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He is currently the the 6th ranked QB in the NFL (QBR).

 

[Doomsay]

Not sure which article you're referring to, but I did watch the 22. You have any examples of plays where they were 'cheating the underneath routes' on Dunbar? Maybe I just missed it.

They ran basically the same coverages against the same looks the entire game.

There pre- snap looks were fairly similar - but the LB's and SS consistently let their assignments run past them down field and focused on containing the underneath routes. On the runs, while they started with 7-8 men close to the LOS in the fist half - not everybody seem to be playing the run 100% post snap. In the 2nd half they often had 9 guys playing run first on many if not most running plays.

Falcons explain what changed in second half in win over Cowboys: 'We had to respect the speed and start cheating up'
Falcons defensive lineman Jonathan Babineaux said stopping the run was just a matter of realizing what run plays the Cowboys were using. Moore said stopping the short passes to Dunbar was a matter of cheating up.

"With Dunbar, his speed, we knew what we were facing," Moore said. "Once he gets out of the backfield, they like to bubble him a lot and most of the time matchup him up against linebackers. We had to respect the speed and start cheating up on him a lot."

That cheating up made the Falcons susceptible to a deep pass, but Cowboys quarterback Brandon Weeden rarely took the opportunity and never connected. His only completion of more than 20 yards came on a catch-and-run by Dunbar.

"They weren't trying to beat us down the field at all," Allen said.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...o-respect-the-speed-and-start-cheating-up.ece

 

[Idgit]

Does that accusation have any proof with it?

He's just going off of what his eyes tell him.

 

[Idgit]

There pre- snap looks were fairly similar - but the LB's and SS consistently let their assignments run past them down field and focused on containing the underneath routes. On the runs, while they started with 7-8 men close to the LOS in the fist half - not everybody seem to be playing the run 100% post snap. In the 2nd half they often had 9 guys playing run first on many if not most running plays.

Falcons explain what changed in second half in win over Cowboys: 'We had to respect the speed and start cheating up'
Falcons defensive lineman Jonathan Babineaux said stopping the run was just a matter of realizing what run plays the Cowboys were using. Moore said stopping the short passes to Dunbar was a matter of cheating up.

"With Dunbar, his speed, we knew what we were facing," Moore said. "Once he gets out of the backfield, they like to bubble him a lot and most of the time matchup him up against linebackers. We had to respect the speed and start cheating up on him a lot."

That cheating up made the Falcons susceptible to a deep pass, but Cowboys quarterback Brandon Weeden rarely took the opportunity and never connected. His only completion of more than 20 yards came on a catch-and-run by Dunbar.

"They weren't trying to beat us down the field at all," Allen said.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...o-respect-the-speed-and-start-cheating-up.ece

Ah, thanks. That makes sense, if they were talking about an adjustment they made for that specific player. I can definitely see that.

The Durant quote is gets to more of what I was talking about, and it's a more general comment about their defense:

"We were misfitting it," Falcons linebacker Justin Durant said of stopping the Cowboys run game. "We weren't fitting right and we weren't tackling."

As I said, several players confirmed that, schematically, they didn't really change much at all (beyond your point re: Dunbar). They really were just keeping containment better and tackling where they were out of position earlier in the game and Dunbar made them pay for it.