Recommended Breer: Inside the Dallas Decision

[tyke1doe]

If or when the Cowboys running game gets shut down because of good defense, or being down by a lot of points, is when we'll wish it was Romo out there.

Not all of us. We've put Tony in these situations before, and when he throws an interception, we generally say, "Well, if we had the running game or a defense or if the receivers would have run the route properly, Tony wouldn't have failed."

We know that narrative. Let's let Dak make his own narrative now.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/11/16/...back-dak-prescott-tony-romo-stephen-jones-nfl

Last week, finally healthy, Tony Romo expressed to the Cowboys brass a desire to fight for the job he now could acknowledge wouldn’t be just handed back to him.

And then, he went out and backed it up by having as good a week as possible piloting a scout team. According to those there, 100 percent is selling it short. “He looked like (Ben) Roethlisberger,” is how one Dallas source illustrated the Pittsburgh look Romo gave the Dallas defense in practice.

That was as good a sign as any that there really wasn’t anything he could do. The job Romo held for 10 years isn’t his anymore. And the idea that a red-hot Dallas team could open a quarterback competition in November was never realistic.

The 2016 Cowboys are Dak Prescott’s team. Officially now, and not just for Sunday’s showdown against the AFC North-leading Baltimore Ravens.

And Romo isn’t the only person who finds the conclusion hard to accept.

The choice is thus, stout fellows of the NFC tundra.
Romo? For what purpose? He is out by next year.
Dak? He is the future.
8-1?
Are you kidding, blokes?
Adios and cheerio, Tony. Time marches on.

 

[tyke1doe]

That second part is what some people refuse to acknowledge.

"But the risk of doing that far outweighs the reward, with the gap between what Romo could bring and what Prescott does bring closing by the week."

Bingo! As I've said hypothetical vs. actual. Actual 99.999 percent of the time always wins.

 

[mrmojo]

Not all of us. We've put Tony in these situations before, and when he throws interception, we generally say, "Well, if we had the running game or a defense or if the receivers would have run the route probably, Tony wouldn't have failed."

We know that narrative. Let's let Dak make his own narrative now.

Not me either, ride the kid till the end. Season has been unexpected so far so I'm enjoying it. If we don't make it this year we're set up wonderfully for the next several years, with Dak improving and getting experience each week. I love it, I don't play what ifs, just enjoying the moment, less stress I tell you, be fans and enjoy this team.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Not all of us. We've put Tony in these situations before, and when he throws an interception, we generally say, "Well, if we had the running game or a defense or if the receivers would have run the route properly, Tony wouldn't have failed."

We know that narrative. Let's let Dak make his own narrative now.

Yeah, like in 2014 when he led the league in everything, that narrative is agenda crap.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yeah, like in 2014 when he led the league in everything, that narrative is agenda crap.

No, it's not agenda crap. But the team came up short, and since Romo is a part of the team, he came up short.

I don't need to make excuses for Romo or everybody else BUT Romo. If it's a TEAM concept, as so many Romo supporters say it is, then he gets the success when the team succeeds and blame when the team fails.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

No, it's not agenda crap. But the team came up short, and since Romo is a part of the team, he came up short.

I don't need to make excuses for Romo or everybody else BUT Romo. If it's a TEAM concept, as so many Romo supporters say it is, then he gets the success when the team succeeds and blame when the team fails.

Pbbbst, now you're backpedaling from mis-characterizing Romo's stellar 2014 performance as poor to blaming him for the defense's performance in a year they went 12 and 4 and were one blown call from the NFC championship. Weak.

 

[tyke1doe]

Pbbbst, now you're backpedaling from mis-characterizing Romo's stellar 2014 performance as poor to blaming him for the defense's performance in a year they went 12 and 4 and were one blown call from the NFC championship. Weak.

To YOU it's backpedaling. To me, it's listening to all of you blame everyone else BUT Romo.

All we get when he or the team falls short is, "Well, if Romo had this, that or the other ..." It's ALWAYS a team failure when we lose, but it's a ROMO DID IT ALL when we win.

Yes, the defense fell short. But Romo, knowing this, should have led this offense to put more points on the board. If he's the otherworldly quarterback you seem to think he is, it shouldn't have been hard for him to do.

Just saying.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

To YOU it's backpedaling. To me, it's listening to all of you blame everyone else BUT Romo.

All we get when he or the team falls short is, "Well, if Romo had this, that or the other ..." It's ALWAYS a team failure when we lose, but it's a ROMO DID IT ALL when we win.

Yes, the defense fell short. But Romo, knowing this, should have led this offense to put more points on the board. If he's the otherworldly quarterback you seem to think he is, it shouldn't have been hard for him to do.

Just saying.

WEAK

 

[tyke1doe]

WEAK

Well, it appears you have a handle on the memes.

Be that as it may, the results are what they are, no matter how you try to massage them. Romo has had the better part of 12 years to take this team to a Super Bowl, heck, an NFC Championship Game. He has had the ear of Jerry Jones almost that entire time. And what do we have to show for it? Two playoff wins.
Meanwhile, it's everybody else's fault from the ball boy to Wade Phillips to the defense to not having a bell cow running back, etc. so. on as to why we haven't moved further into the post-season. But it's never Romo's fault with some. And yet, for as great as he is - or so we're constantly told - he hasn't gotten it done. And no amount of memes will change that - at least the 12 years of futility.
Now it's Dak's shot. We'll see what he can do and if it takes him 12 long years.

 

[DFWJC]

To YOU it's backpedaling. To me, it's listening to all of you blame everyone else BUT Romo.

All we get when he or the team falls short is, "Well, if Romo had this, that or the other ..." It's ALWAYS a team failure when we lose, but it's a ROMO DID IT ALL when we win.

Yes, the defense fell short. But Romo, knowing this, should have led this offense to put more points on the board. If he's the otherworldly quarterback you seem to think he is, it shouldn't have been hard for him to do.

Just saying.

I know that wasn't for me, but come on tyke... "all we get" are excuses for Romo?
Do you even hear yourself?
There have been volumes...skyscraper level stacks (lol)...of articles and of various people in forums bashing Romo for his failures.
He has to be one of the more bashed and criticized QBs in the last decade--especially relative his actual performance.

 

[tyke1doe]

I know that wasn't for me, but come on tyke... "all we get" are excuses for Romo?
Do you even hear yourself?
There have been volumes...skyscraper level stacks (lol)...of articles and of various people in forums bashing Romo for his failures.
He has to be one of the more bashed and criticized QBs in the last decade--especially relative his actual performance.

I thought it was pretty obvious that I'm talking about the Romo supporters who think everyone but he is to blame for the Cowboys playoff woes. We have a lot of those posters in this forum.

Next time I'll try to be a little clearer.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Next time I'll try to be a little clearer.

Being clear isn't your problem, it's faulty reasoning that paints you into a corner and then you're forced to muddy the water...

 

[tyke1doe]

Being clear isn't your problem, it's faulty reasoning that paints you into a corner and then you're forced to muddy the water...

If you say so, chief. All I know for certain is we've had Romo for 12 years, and he/we don't have a Super Bowl or NFC Championship Game appearance.

All your sidebars don't erase that. But, hey, keep trying as if my clarity or lack thereof is the real issue.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

...But, hey, keep trying as if my clarity or lack thereof is the real issue.

Once again, clarity isn't your issue, try and keep up junior!

 

[tyke1doe]

Once again, clarity isn't your issue, try and keep up junior!

Actually, that's SENIOR to you! And I'm ten steps ahead of you, son.

 

[khiladi]

To say nothing of Romo checking out of running plays into passing plays depending on what he sees. People are free to speculate and think of that whatever they choose, but there's no doubt in my mind that Romo had that abaikity and exercised it liberally. When many of us were criticizing Garrett and Co. for being pass happy, it wasn't just the coaches deciding to pass, but the quarterback as well.

Dak, Elliott, and this offensive line are executing running plays against 7 and 8-man fronts successfully on a regular basis where I very much believe that for better or worse, Romo would be checking out of them.

Well, his first year with Linehan as PC, Murray had his best year ever and Dallas emphasized running the all. When Jerry brought Linehan here, he specifically said that while coaches give lip-service to running the ball, Linehan will actually do it.

So it's really not speculation, it's backed by evidence. Plus, before Garrett was demoted, Dallas started relying heavily on shotgun and passed 85% of the time and in hurry. If the coach really wanted to run, he wouldn't have done that.

As Jerry said when he gave Romo the new contract, that he wanted him in game planning. Garrett didn't have him involved, so that was basically forced from the top. And the first year of Linehan, Jerry was the main man emphasizing the Linehan Romo relationship over anything else in the off season.

 

[khiladi]

I'd be willing to accept that premise, but in that case, the team would still be 8-1, right? By your assumption, he should have cost us the Eagles game, his play should have won us that Giants game. So, we'd still be 8-1.

Of course, I just wanted to clarify that he's had a couple bad stretches. Not that he hasn't played great.

They also use to limit the offense in the areas Dak would throw. And he's shown to improve and pass those tests.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Actually, that's SENIOR to you! And I'm ten steps ahead of you, son.

a senior posting from a safe space in the student union building maybe

 

[tyke1doe]

a senior posting from a safe space in the student union building maybe

That's the best you got?