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5mics;2837752 said:
Couldn't that also mean that the coaching staff are confident about Doug Free as our future OLT?

yea sure could mean that - hopefully we will find out during training camp and preseason
 

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Hostile;2837226 said:
I have heard that they really like Doug Free and consider him our future LT, so why wouldn't they move Brewster to RT? Makes sense to me.

I think people in CZ definitely wrote Free off way too early.

I mean gee, he's a 4th rd pick from a small school playing behind a multi-pro bowl elected LT. He definitely should have been playing from day one right?
 

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FuzzBuster;2837453 said:
LMAO Oh I got you pegged now.

I am just trying to be civil. See you obviously don't know me because if you look at my posts I love to be confrontational.

Heres a hint though, tough guy: standing up like a man does not involve making banal, accusatory statements to people you're just meeting without having the common decency to at least try and get an idea of who these people are. Thats not being a man; thats being a moron.

You're a perfect example of what is so very sad about the internet. If you come into a person's home, place of buisness or pretty much anywhere behaving as you are, youre going to get beaten or at the very least thrown out. Typically if someone does behave in this manner its an adolescent that has some need to prove himself.

But see thats the thing, people that don't have the cajones to do that type of thing in person come to places like this and do it. Like I said: its sad.

Anyway enjoy your stay.

Oh and before you start with the whole, 'you don't know who I am, I'm <insert whatever>' youre right. I dont know who you are and quite frankly I don't care.

I just want you to stop being an idiot.

You might as well be speaking a foreign language if you're going to be using words like this when talking with this guy. He can't even form a complete sentence, and spells every other word incorrectly. He sounds like a 21 year old (at most) who walked into a bar looking to fight the first guy he saw because he "Don't take nothin' from nobody!". Unfortunately, the whole bar is looking at him right now and just shaking their heads. The characters in his avatar appear to sharper than he does. Go home and drink another Red Bull big guy...
 

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Houck said the day of the draft he likes to get guys started playing at what they know.....then move from there.

Brewster started at RT for 3-4 years in college.
 

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The [strike]Silent Bob and [/strike]Jay avatar is, quite literally, perfection incarnate.

If both Kosier and Holland are fully healthy for '09, I'm feeling very confident about our offensive line, especially in regards to depth. Of course, how well the unit will perform during actual games has yet to be decided.
 

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dbair1967;2837805 said:
I think people in CZ definitely wrote Free off way too early.

I mean gee, he's a 4th rd pick from a small school playing behind a multi-pro bowl elected LT. He definitely should have been playing from day one right?
I think what soured people were the reports of how injured Flo was last year and no Free. All I can say is the team has not soured on Free at all. In fact they really think his future is bright.
 

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dbair1967;2837805 said:
I think people in CZ definitely wrote Free off way too early.

I think part of that is a certain poster here who has said so many times that the coaches don't like him, that he's been moved to guard, etc.

I haven't seen anything to make me believe he wouldn't be at least a serviceable backup LT.
 

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One thing to remember: two years ago we were hearing the same things about McQ as we are now hearing about Free.
 

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burmafrd;2837896 said:
One thing to remember: two years ago we were hearing the same things about McQ as we are now hearing about Free.
I wasn't.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2837870 said:
I think part of that is a certain poster here who has said so many times that the coaches don't like him, that he's been moved to guard, etc.

I haven't seen anything to make me believe he wouldn't be at least a serviceable backup LT.
Who is it?
 

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DallasEast;2837850 said:
The [strike]Silent Bob and [/strike]Jay avatar is, quite literally, perfection incarnate.

If both Kosier and Holland are fully healthy for '09, I'm feeling very confident about our offensive line, especially in regards to depth. Of course, how well the unit will perform during actual games has yet to be decided.

I'm glad you have confidence in them. I do if they stay healthy. But I've got reservations esp at center and RT backup in regards to depth there.

Hostile;2837856 said:
I think what soured people were the reports of how injured Flo was last year and no Free. All I can say is the team has not soured on Free at all. In fact they really think his future is bright.

That's the best news of the day for me. BTW, I looked at an 07 Road King SE yesterday. They want too much for it. Anyone got an 05 Electra SE they want to sell?

Chocolate Lab;2837870 said:
I think part of that is a certain poster here who has said so many times that the coaches don't like him, that he's been moved to guard, etc.

I haven't seen anything to make me believe he wouldn't be at least a serviceable backup LT.

They are obviously happy with Free and/or McQ or they would have drafted a LT this year. I think Kosier could play LT but that's a large assumption on my part. Just a SWAG based on his mobility and size. I'm talking backup in an emergency here though. My main problem is backup at center and RT assuming Kosier and/or Holland can stay healthy.
 

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come on Hos Sparano and others were talking him up back then. It came from Vela and other places that have pretty good sources. Just because your guy was maybe not saying it does not mean a lot of others were not.
 

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UnoDallas;2837411 said:
well I won't miss much from you and real grown up there dude

saying I may have a serious learning disablity

yea right thats why I got three colloge degrees ?

oh never mind that went way over your HEAD

BWAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

OMG that was hilarious! 3 "colloge" degrees and he writes like this?

Queue the laughing scene from the movie "The Money Pit".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5BKX3QCjk0&feature=related
 

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BIGDen;2837808 said:
You might as well be speaking a foreign language if you're going to be using words like this when talking with this guy. He can't even form a complete sentence, and spells every other word incorrectly. He sounds like a 21 year old (at most) who walked into a bar looking to fight the first guy he saw because he "Don't take nothin' from nobody!". Unfortunately, the whole bar is looking at him right now and just shaking their heads. The characters in his avatar appear to sharper than he does. Go home and drink another Red Bull big guy...

AWESOME! :bow:
 

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burmafrd;2837918 said:
come on Hos Sparano and others were talking him up back then. It came from Vela and other places that have pretty good sources. Just because your guy was maybe not saying it does not mean a lot of others were not.
I don't suppose you can provide a link?
 

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THUMPER;2837934 said:
all i remember some media writer was talking about free and said something like you didnt see much from him, etc, and they had him pegged at OG now

next thing, someone said that that writer was wrong, that free was playing OT in footage of the offensive linemen

i dont know, because im not there at practices

my question though, when flozell was hurting last year, why wasnt doug free playing LOT

dont get me wrong, because i liked doug free, when he was drafted by the cowboys i even said he would be one of our next great offensive linemen
www.seedougfree.com

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/2007/draft_recaps/dallas_cowboys.htm
All-America Candidate
Outland Trophy Watch List
2006 Team Captain

Career: Two-time All-Mid-Am pick (2004-05). Heads into senior campaign with an active string of 36 consecutive starts (34 at LT and two at TE) and 156 knockdown blocks in 2,287 career snaps (2003-05). Serious 2007 National Football League draft material. All-America candidate with unique combination of athleticism, quick feet, and work ethic. Nicknamed by Northern Illinois teammates as "Doug Freak" for athleticism :)05.0 speed, 29-inch vertical jump, and 565-pound squat lift. Compared to former Huskie Third-Team All-America OT and Indianapolis Colts (fourth-round pick in 2001 NFL draft) starter Ryan Diem. Rated by ESPN.com analyst Bill Curry as one of three best non-skill position players in the country, along with Boston College DE Mathias Kiwanuka and Minnesota C Greg Eslinger. "Even at 6-7, 302, he (Free) can get out and lead RB Garrett Wolfe downfield on screens. Coach Joe Novak says Free could play TE in the NFL." Anchored rock-solid Northern Illinois O-line that blocked for nation's No. 16 major-college rushing attack (206.7 yards-per-game average) and total offense (441.1 ypg.) last season and paved the way for 1,000-yard rushers such as All-America tailbacks Michael "The Burner" Turner and Garrett Wolfe.

Joe Novak: "No question, Doug has the talent to play on Sundays. Knock on wood, I believe he's going to be a first-round draft pick. Doug Free's a lot better athlete than Ryan Diem. He (Free) can run! You just don't see many offensive linemen that can run at that size like he can. What's impressive is he'll sit back in pass protection and then we'll throw the ball down the field and he''ll run downfield and block a safety. I mean, get downfield! You just don't see kids who can do that. He's special. Our kids call him `Doug Freak' because he runs so well."

2006 Preseason: Named to Outland Trophy Watch List. Honorable Mention All-America, First-Team All-MAC selection, and listed as league's "top NFL prospect" by Street & Smith's. First-Team All-America selection by Insiders' Football News. Listed as Third-Team All-America and First-Team All-MAC by Athlon Sports preseason publication. Tabbed First-Team All-MAC by Blue Ribbon College Football Digest. First-Team All-MAC and ranked as No. 8 offensive tackle in the nation by The Sporting News. Honorable mention All-America and rated as No. 6 offensive tackle in the nation by CollegeFootballNews.com. Listed as the nation's No. 8 offensive tackle by Lindy's preseason publication in addition to being tabbed as the MAC's "Best Run Blocker" and the league's No. 2 NFL Draft candidate and a first-team all-conference pick. Tabbed as First-Team All-MAC, ranked as the No. 10 offensive tackle nationally, and No. 26 on 2007 NFL Draft List by Phil Steele's College Football Preview. Named on preseason Third-Team NationalChamps.Net All-America. Listed as fourth-best senior offensive tackle and No. 23 among senior prospects for 2007 NFL Draft by Mel Kiper. First-Team All-MAC by CBS SportsLine.

2005: Selected First-Team All-MAC by league coaches and CollegeFootballNews.com last fall. Rated No. 18 prospect in nation by CollegeFootballNews.com ("a frightening blend of strength and speed," according to the website). Ranked No. 1 (tie) in team blocking grades (91 percent), No. 2 in "flatback" blocks (13), and No. 3 in knockdown blocks (49). Won 12 starts at LT and played 806 snaps. Nominated for MAC All-Academic and CoSIDA District V All-Academic with 3.24 cumulative grade point average as Industrial Technology major. Earned several preseason accolades including beding tabbed as Honorable Mention All-America by Street & Smith's College Football, No. 45 OT in nation by Phil Steele's College Football Preview, plus at least six First-Team All-MAC units (Street & Smith's, CollegeFootballNews.com, Phil Steele's, CBS SportsLine.com College Football, The Sporting News, and Lindy's).

2004: Best all-around athlete on top-notch Northern Illinois O-line front that featured four All-MAC performers (2004). Named Third-Team CollegeSportsReport.com Sophomore All-America and coaches' Second-Team All-MAC. Earned second letter with 878 total snaps (806 on offense and 72 on placement kick unit) in 12 starts. Led O-line in blocking grades (91 percent) and flatback blocks (17), plus rated No. 2 in O-line snaps (806) and No. 4 in team knockdown blocks (67). Earned "plus" grades on 654 of 806 O-line plays. Went career-high 99 snaps (92 on offense) vs. Eastern Michigan (11-20-04). Tied for No. 37 in team tackles (one). Credited with stop vs. No. 22 (AP) Maryland (9-4-04).

2003: Named Third-Team Frosh All-America by The Sporting News. Blocked for one of only two 1-A offenses with 2,500-yard passer, 1,500-yard rusher, and 1,000-yard receiver. Won first letter with 12 starts (10 at LT and two at TE) and 603 overall snaps (595 on offense and eight on special teams). Earned "plus" grades on 477 plays at OT and wound up No. 3 in team knockdown blocks (40). Played season-high 87 snaps vs. Western Michigan (10-18-03). Opened year at No. 2 RT. Went from zero 1-A snaps to Frosh All-America in five months (2003).

2002: Red-shirted as true frosh. Began career at No. 3 LT.

Prep: Ranked as No. 9 college prospect in state by Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (2002). Named team captain and Defensive Lineman of the Year, First-Team All-Fox Valley Conference on both offense and defense, First-Team Herald Times Reporter All-Area, and First-Team Milwaukee Journal Sentinel All-State on 7-3 playoff entry and league runner-up as a senior for coach John Dixon. Recorded 64 tackles, eight sacks, seven blocked kicks, six fumble-cause hits, five deflections, and two fumble recoveries at DT, plus made six receptions for 141 yards and one TD at TE (2001). Named First-Team All-FVC as a junior. Lettered in football (3). Honor Roll student.

Chart: Boasts second-best squat lift on roster with 500-pound effort. Produced 18 reps with 225 pounds, 29-inch vertical jump, 350-pound power clean, and 355-pound bench press in off-season conditioning program (2006).

Birthdate (Age): 1-16-84 (22).

Major: Technology.

Tom Cammett/WireImage.com Doug Free
SELECTED BY: Dallas Cowboys Round 4(23) SI Grade
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BIOGRAPHY: Four-year starter awarded All-Conference honors in each of the last three seasons.

POSITIVES: Smart, alert lineman who stands out in pass protection. Displays a lot of quickness, recognizes blitzes and is an outstanding position blocker who makes effective use of angles. Stays square, keeps defenders in front of him and fights with his hands.

NEGATIVES: Not a dominant run blocker nor a true finisher. More of a finesse lineman than an outright mauler. Suffered a stress fracture in his foot early last season that hampered his play all year.

ANALYSIS: Formerly a tight end, Free has grown into a terrific offensive tackle. Offers a lot of upside for the next level yet may be incorrectly evaluated because of his injury last season. Possesses starting potential and is a bargain outside of the first round.

PROJECTION: Late Fourth Round

PRO: The Cowboys drafted Doug Free in the fourth round (122nd overall) of the 2007 NFL Draft with the hopes of him developing into a key player on the offensive line. He spent his rookie season learning from some of the best in the NFL, including 10-year veteran Flozell Adams and former first-round draft picks Marc Colombo and Leonard Davis.

TRANSACTION SUMMARY:
4/29/07: Drafted in the fourth round (122nd overall) by Dallas.

2007:
- Started at left tackle for Adams in the first preseason game against the Colts.
- Suffered a knee sprain during the Indianapolis game and missed the rest of the preseason rehabbing.
- Inactive for the first 15 games of the season.
- Made his NFL debut at Washington (12/30) at right tackle during the fourth quarter.
- Was inactive in the Divisional Playoff Game against the N.Y. Giants (1/13/08).

122 Doug Free OT Northern Illinois
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What a steal, last year at this point Free was rated higher than Joe Staley. Free was a top 100 player so he is a good value at 122 and would have been a top 50 had he stayed healthy. He has been a four-year starter (more than 45 games). There are some questions about his strength as he is a converted tight end, but he is very athletic. He is nicknamed Doug Freak.

Finally, Nate Newton, whom i respect as a football player, that knows the game, says doug free has something to him, he just needs to get stronger. This is Doug Free's 3rd year, he should show something this year, or something is wrong. Its like our trainer said the other day about one of the undrafted defensive linemen, that Marcus Dixon has really worked hard in the offseason. You can see it in his body, strength, agility, that Dixon has really shown what getting in shape really can do for you. My question is why hasnt Doug Free done the same thing?
 

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this was just from a nfl draft analyst;
And at No. 10, entering his third-year is offensive tackle Doug Free. He’s been a reserve behind a veteran offensive line thus far, but the Cowboys are hoping that the former fourth round pick emerges during training camp and can challenge for a starting job.
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cowboyjoe;2837958 said:
Finally, Nate Newton, whom i respect as a football player, that knows the game, says doug free has something to him, he just needs to get stronger. This is Doug Free's 3rd year, he should show something this year, or something is wrong. Its like our trainer said the other day about one of the undrafted defensive linemen, that Marcus Dixon has really worked hard in the offseason. You can see it in his body, strength, agility, that Dixon has really shown what getting in shape really can do for you. My question is why hasnt Doug Free done the same thing?
Wait, I thought you said earlier in this post that you don't know because you aren't there at practices. Now you know that the guy hasn't gotten any stronger? How'd you pull off that miracle? Crystal ball, reading tea leaves, Magic 8 Ball? Tell us your clairvoiyant secrets.
 

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Hostile;2837984 said:
Wait, I thought you said earlier in this post that you don't know because you aren't there at practices. Now you know that the guy hasn't gotten any stronger? How'd you pull off that miracle? Crystal ball, reading tea leaves, Magic 8 Ball? Tell us your clairvoiyant secrets.

i read reports that said doug free has to get stronger, those reports were this season during OTAs, February, minicamp etc.

There are some questions about his strength as he is a converted tight end, but he is very athletic

Doug Free's a lot better athlete than Ryan Diem. He (Free) can run! You just don't see many offensive linemen that can run at that size like he can. What's impressive is he'll sit back in pass protection and then we'll throw the ball down the field and he''ll run downfield and block a safety. I mean, get downfield! You just don't see kids who can do that. He's special. Our kids call him `Doug Freak' because he runs so well."

You can run all day long, and be athletic like Doug Free is, but if you dont put in the offseason work to get stronger, heavier, then what good is the speed? Again, DMN, pro football, KFFL, etc said that doug free needs to get stronger in the weight room. I didnt say that, they did. I remember Erik Williams first year, when Reggie White gave him the old alley oop move and flipped Erik Williams because he wasnt as strong. Erik said, that will never happen again. So, what did Erik do, he hit the weight room, along with his athletic talent he turned into a monster at RT.

This is what Doug Free must do, he is above average in the upper chest area, but his leg strength needs working on, thats what im hearing.

I cant, you cant or heck even our offensive line coach cant get Doug Free to work on his leg strength if he doesnt want too, it has to come from within Doug Free how bad he wants to be one of the best offensive linemen, and at what price is he willing to pay to become the best. Now the offensive line coach Hudson can push Doug Free and get on him, etc, but bottom line, Free must want to become an elite LOT.
 

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UnoDallas;2837411 said:
well I won't miss much from you and real grown up there dude

saying I may have a serious learning disablity

yea right thats why I got three colloge degrees ?

oh never mind that went way over your HEAD

Three college degrees and you still don't know what a period(.), comma(,) is or sentence structure. You might (and I emphasize might) be highly educated but your rants are hard to read and you come across as someone who tries to convince people he knows more than he does just by being more belligerent than the person you're arguing with. Please settle down and look at the join dates and post counts of the people your referring to and arguing with. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this board and Hostile is one of the best. He has been here since the beginning and I'm pretty sure he created this board (not positive). His "inside" information has been accurate nearly 100% of the time. Nobody is right all the time but he is close.
 
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