Broaddus on Arkin
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Thatkidbob
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That's like a magic 8 ball answer.
Does that mean he's done well enough that's it's certain he'll make the roster, or that he's done so poorly that the issue is already decided? Without knowledge of Broaddus' previous comments on the guy (and even, perhaps, with that knowledge) this answer does nothing to shed light on the question he was asked.
Does that mean he's done well enough that's it's certain he'll make the roster, or that he's done so poorly that the issue is already decided? Without knowledge of Broaddus' previous comments on the guy (and even, perhaps, with that knowledge) this answer does nothing to shed light on the question he was asked.
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burmafrd;5091454 said:
I'm saying that the answer is vague. If he said the exact same thing in reference to a question about whether Free or Livings would make the roster, it would mean something entirely different.
TheCount;5091457 said:
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.
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There is little to no real info that we can see in mini camp that will tell us if Arkin makes the team or not. Arkin's issues were always about strength and the ability to anchor and stay healthy. His problem was not that he didn't know the play book or that he didn't have agility, which is almost all that you see in mini camp. We will find out abut Arkin when the pads come on and the the heat index is in the 90s. Until then, we don't really know what the story on Arkin will be IMO. Broaddus may know more and it's very possible that he does but it's not because of what we've seen here IMO. It's because he know more about what's going on around Valley Ranch.
I will agree on this thou. This is Arkin's last camp to prove he is an NFL player for us IMO.
I will agree on this thou. This is Arkin's last camp to prove he is an NFL player for us IMO.
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I thought this was pretty evident when someone like Derrick Dockery was brought off the street over Arkin. Being a rookie is one thing, but if you've already had a full year of sitting and learning and the team still doesn't think you are worthy of playing in a backup role there is a huge problem.
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burmafrd;5091454 said:
wasn't it you who said you can't tell anything until the pads come on? Or does that apply only when a report is good?
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tm1119;5091493 said:
Not really. As has been expressed about a million times on this board -- whether or not the guy pans out -- he came in a major project. He was from a tiny school AND just not at all physically close to playing in the league.
Your Dockery argument is a bit silly considering that Arkin was the backup Center for the first half of our season. He played C and worked exclusively at C in pre-season. Why on earth would our backup G have anything to do with that?
I don't know if this guy ever amounts to anything here -- but what I do know is that we are treating him like you have to treat developmental prospects.
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AbeBeta;5091498 said:
Is that why the team went out and immediately traded for a center when the starter went down? And then even slid Bernadeau over to C when Cook went down instead of putting Arkin in?
This isn't the MLB, you don't get 4 years to develop in the NFL. If you are in your 2nd year as an NFL player and the team doesn't trust you enough to even touch the field in emergency situations your career is not heading in a very good direction.
And yes, I understand that he came from a small school and needed to develop. I also understand this doesn't happen over night, but I would say the 15 or 16 or so months from the time Arkin was drafted to the start of the 2012 season is more than enough time. If after that amount of time you still aren't strong enough you either A) aren't trying hard enough, or B) its just never going to happen. You choose, but either way its not good.
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tm1119;5091543 said:
im·me·di·ate·ly adverb \i-ˈmē-dē-ət-lē also -ˈmē-dit-, British often -ˈmē-jit-\
Def. without interval of time : straightway <I'll make that call immediately>
Cook was acquired on August 31st, 2012. Phil Costa was injured on August 10th, 2012.
You don't understand what immediately means, do you?
And yeah, I totally would expect a team to go out and get a C rather than play in real games with someone who had never snapped the ball before the training camp.
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AbeBeta;5091559 said:
lol ok pal. Thanks for clearing that up. Next time I'll have exact dates handy. So what will the excuse be next year IF he makes the roster this and doesn't play again? I look forward to that ridiculous excuse making. Should be fun to hear.
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tm1119;5091573 said:
So what will the excuse be next year IF he makes the roster this and doesn't play again? I look forward to that ridiculous excuse making. Should be fun to hear.
Let me clarify further for you -- your "immediately" signing covered the ENTIRE preseason. That's right. All four games.
If he makes the roster and doesn't play it likely means that there are guys in front of him. Duh. That's usually what you want for developmental guys.