Broaddus Quote Anthony Spencer

[jterrell]

If he wants to come back for a vet minimum type deal, then bring him back for cheap depth. If not, let him play elsewhere. Spencer's age, injuries, and unremarkable play make him expendable.

You can offer him 2 or 3x the minimum. As long as it isn't guaranteed it doesn't matter.
If he isn't better than minimum next training camp he won't make the team in all likelihood.

A 2 year 6m deal lets him feel wanted but no guaranteed money.

You buy his 2nd year in case of healthier player showing past abilities and he isn't taking minimum wage scraps.

 

[jobberone]

I'd bring Spencer back but not sure how far you are going with "he is good and deserves to be paid as such"?
He does not have the production to warrant more than a couple mil per season based upon his play this year.
He may well be vastly improved another 7 months and a full off-season from now though.

This is not a case of needing a miracle fix to upgrade. Spencer is about as good as Selvie, DLaw and Mincey this year.
Which is they Melton is playing DE.

I don't see anyone on the team as good as Spencer at SDE. That's not a ringing endorsement though. I'm going to look at his play when the All22 comes out. I'll try and go back and look at more games but I don't have the time to look at the entire year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't see anyone on the team as good as Spencer at SDE. That's not a ringing endorsement though. I'm going to look at his play when the All22 comes out. I'll try and go back and look at more games but I don't have the time to look at the entire year.

Yeah, right now Spencer is the "tallest dwarf".

I could see Spencer and Mincey as the backups to Lawrence and a new DE come next season.

 

[Idgit]

Spencer had a couple noteworthy plays this week. The strip-fumble was a huge play in that game. And I think he's the one who absolutely planted Bennett in the 4th quarter. If I can find the clip, it was pretty great.

EDIT: Here it is.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I like Spencer but I don't see him coming back. I think his production can be replaced with a younger cheaper option.

Right on the money.

 

[jobberone]

Yeah, right now Spencer is the "tallest dwarf".

I could see Spencer and Mincey as the backups to Lawrence and a new DE come next season.

I think Spencer even now is a tad bit better than Mincey....overall. Spencer does a lot of things that you have to look for to see and his stats on that side will never be great in this scheme. He doesn't turn the corner well enough to be a WDE nor does he have a great first step or even explosion. He's a good SDE in this scheme.

I see Mincey as a better WDE although he's not a WDE either. Nor is Crawford or Melton who can play on the outside some.

I'm fine with who wins camp next year as long as someone shows up at WDE whether that is Lawrence or someone else.

I see Melton as the true 3 who can play the 3 or 5/7. I see Crawford as the SDE who can play the 3. I like Brent to come away at the 1/3 and someone will have to beat Hayden out as the backup 1/3. I have no idea who the WDE will be although I hope they bring another player in to compete there with Lawrence; draft or FA is fine.

 

[jobberone]

I like Spencer but I don't see him coming back. I think his production can be replaced with a younger cheape option.

I'm fine esp if he's still limited physically. As long as he's well or getting there then he's on my 90 assuming he's not too expensive.

 

[Bluefin]

He doesn't turn the corner well enough to be a WDE nor does he have a great first step or even explosion. He's a good SDE in this scheme.

Anthony Spencer can't bend around the edge well enough on the strongside, either.

Spencer's always been best suited to be a run down player, that's his strength.

I've wanted a better pass rusher to platoon with Spencer since during the 2010 season.

My priority in free agency would be upgrading at DE, either side, at the expense of Spencer and George Selvie before hoping to supplement the position during the draft.

If an upgrade isn't secured and Spencer remains on the market, I'd look at him as a fallback option on an economical deal laced with incentives similar to what he has this year.

The mystery here is DeMarcus Lawrence.

Maybe he's our next RDE, maybe not, what if he's better or equally suited to playing LDE? We're unlikely to get any real idea about Lawrence until next season and we will need to be open to the idea of signing or drafting DEs for either side this off-season.

We can't count on Lawrence yet.

 

[MissouriCowboy]

No way Dallas bring back Spencer. Next all new changes on the line.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I see Melton as the true 3 who can play the 3 or 5/7. I see Crawford as the SDE who can play the 3. I like Brent to come away at the 1/3 and someone will have to beat Hayden out as the backup 1/3. I have no idea who the WDE will be although I hope they bring another player in to compete there with Lawrence; draft or FA is fine.

I'd love to know what the Cowboys truly think of Melton.

 

[MissouriCowboy]

I'd love to know what the Cowboys truly think of Melton.

Good point.

 

[jobberone]

Anthony Spencer can't bend around the edge well enough on the strongside, either.

Spencer's always been best suited to be a run down player, that's his strength.

I've wanted a better pass rusher to platoon with Spencer since during the 2010 season.

My priority in free agency would be upgrading at DE, either side, at the expense of Spencer and George Selvie before hoping to supplement the position during the draft.

If an upgrade isn't secured and Spencer remains on the market, I'd look at him as a fallback option on an economical deal laced with incentives similar to what he has this year.

The mystery here is DeMarcus Lawrence.

Maybe he's our next RDE, maybe not, what if he's better or equally suited to playing LDE? We're unlikely to get any real idea about Lawrence until next season and we will need to be open to the idea of signing or drafting DEs for either side this off-season.

We can't count on Lawrence yet.

I'm not opposed to replacing Spencer; I've said he's replaceable. Just like Free it won't be easy. He survives here because no one is better and we don't use the WDE and SDE the same most of the time.

I've said this yearly but pressure is not linear but exponential. You reach critical mass on a play and the pocket is problematic. You'll see more big plays from Spencer as the collective cumulative effect grows.

 

[BAT]

Spencer had a couple noteworthy plays this week. The strip-fumble was a huge play in that game. And I think he's the one who absolutely planted Bennett in the 4th quarter. If I can find the clip, it was pretty great.

EDIT: Here it is.

That was nice, but truth is Marty was playing on one leg by the 4th quarter.

 

[jobberone]

I'd love to know what the Cowboys truly think of Melton.

I'll look at him and Spencer soon. My guess is they think both can elevate their play as time goes by. They should try and secure both is my guess but I reserve the right to be wrong.

 

[wileedog]

Spencer had a couple noteworthy plays this week. The strip-fumble was a huge play in that game. And I think he's the one who absolutely planted Bennett in the 4th quarter. If I can find the clip, it was pretty great.

EDIT: Here it is.

Beating a TE one on one is what he is supposed to do, not an example of great play. Although I will give you watching MartyB get pancaked was quite satisfying.

 

[jobberone]

That was nice, but truth is Marty was playing on one leg by the 4th quarter.

That is true.

 

[jobberone]

Beating a TE one on one is what he is supposed to do, not an example of great play.

He didn't just beat him but pancaked him which is an entirely different matter. I don't think it's that big of a deal but it does show his power.

I'm a fan but not a huge fan of Spencer. I'm not married to anyone on this team. I just appreciate talent and Spencer has been under-appreciated since he got here.

It'll be interesting to see if the team keeps him which is the important part of the discussion....not how we feel as fans...albeit opinions are important.

 

[wileedog]

He didn't just beat him but pancaked him which is an entirely different matter. I don't think it's that big of a deal but it does show his power.

Anyone can catch anyone off balance, particularly late in a game when they are tired. He was immediately re-routed by the Tackle and was a non factor in the play. No one cares, other than on an emotional level, that Bennett fell down.

While the strip fumble is nice other than that he has been largely invisible the past several weeks - not even "Almost Anthony." I would like to see a lot more from him the remaining three games before I offered him anything other than camp body money.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

No way Dallas bring back Spencer. Next all new changes on the line.

I don't see all the DE's (outside of Lawrence) being replaced in one offseason.

On top of that Mincey hasn't been bad. Neither has Spencer.

What the defense line needs is a 1 technique DT who can supply some kind of a pass rush.

Yeah, we like to rip the DE's for not getting sacks, and rightfully so to some extent, but the Cowboys are getting NOTHING out of the #1 DT spot.

In 484 snaps, Hayden has 0 sacks, 4 QB hits, and 3 QB hurries. That's 7 times out of 484 snaps when Hayden has caused any sort of disruption to the QB.

Just for comparison here is a good, but not real good left DT:

Kawann Short 490 snaps, 2 sacks, 7 QB hits and 14 QB hurries.

There are many NT who are putting more pressure on the QB than what Hayden is.

Add a DE who can supply 10 sacks and a DT who can supply some pressure at the #1 DT spot and you'll see all the other lineman benefit.

 

[jobberone]

Anyone can catch anyone off balance, particularly late in a game when they are tired. He was immediately re-routed by the Tackle and was a non factor in the play. No one cares, other than on an emotional level, that Bennett fell down.

While the strip fumble is nice other than that he has been largely invisible the past several weeks - not even "Almost Anthony." I would like to see a lot more from him the remaining three games before I offered him anything other than camp body money.

That's just not true about his play. His contract is a different matter although he hasn't played well enough to demand big money.