Broaddus said they might have serious interest in Eric Winston as a RT..

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Zimmy Lives;5040583 said:
Personally, I would address needs through free agency and take the best talent available regardless of position at #18. What do I know, though, Jerry is the personnel expert so if drafting a tackle to fill a need is there thinking then they know best!

One thing Jerry hasn't done in quite a few drafts, at least on 1st round picks, is reach, or draft for need.
 

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jjktkk;5040607 said:
One thing Jerry hasn't done in quite a few drafts, at least on 1st round picks, is reach, or draft for need.


I don't think so.

The Cowboys needed an offensive lineman in 2011. They drafted Tyron Smith.

They needed a cornerback in 2012. They reached up and traded for Morris Claiborne.

They needed a cornerback in 2008. They drafted Mike Jenkins.

They needed a cornerback in 2003. They drafted Terence Newman.

They needed a safety in 2002. They drafted Roy Williams.
 

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jjktkk;5040607 said:
One thing Jerry hasn't done in quite a few drafts, at least on 1st round picks, is reach, or draft for need.

Which is why I don't take anything that is being reported now as gospel.

I still think Dallas will go DT/DE in the 1st round.
 

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CyberB0b;5040585 said:
Not if they want to sign draft picks.

They won't have to sign the draft picks until way after June 1st when they will get the savings from Spears and Free if they were to cut him.
 

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Zordon;5040531 said:
Falcons waive Tyson Clabo.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/falcons/2013/04/04/falcons-waive-tyson-clabo/2052537/

Cowboys need to hop on this ASAP. Or at least make contact.

They need to make sure they do their homework first. The Falcons just gave him a big extension 2 years ago, and now they've released him. Need to know why before they go after him. Does he have some sort of health issue that isn't public knowledge? Did his game go into the tank like Free's did? Is he a head case? Of do they just have somebody better that's much cheaper? Are they trying to free up money to extend Ryan? Those questions need to be answered. You don't just release a good OT unless there's a pretty significant reason.
 

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Red Dragon;5040611 said:
I don't think so.

The Cowboys needed an offensive lineman in 2011. They drafted Tyron Smith.

They needed a cornerback in 2012. They reached up and traded for Morris Claiborne.

They needed a cornerback in 2008. They drafted Mike Jenkins.

They needed a cornerback in 2003. They drafted Terence Newman.

They needed a safety in 2002. They drafted Roy Williams.

I think it is true to a degree: Under Garrett the 1st round pick has been consistently rated a value pick, even Claiborne.

If Jerry is squawking then let him squawk. If Winston is an actual player of interest, then I see them signing him now and not after the draft unless there is a little arrangement under the table between his agent and the Cowboys.
 

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Red Dragon;5040611 said:
I don't think so.

The Cowboys needed an offensive lineman in 2011. They drafted Tyron Smith.

They needed a cornerback in 2012. They reached up and traded for Morris Claiborne.

They needed a cornerback in 2008. They drafted Mike Jenkins.

They needed a cornerback in 2003. They drafted Terence Newman.

They needed a safety in 2002. They drafted Roy Williams.

All of the above mentioned players were slotted where the Cowboys picked them. Let me clairfy what I meant by reaching in the draft. For ex., Say Dallas picks a player rated as a second rounder, but Dallas picks him in the 1st. Thats what I was alluding to.
 

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HoustonFrog;5040518 said:
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva 13m Andre Smith was @PFF's No. 1-rated right tackle in 2012. Tyson Clabo was Top 5, and Eric Winston was No. 9. They are all free agents.

This is weird. Either PFF is ranking wrong, or the league doesn't place as high a priority on OGs as message board fans tend to.
 

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I can understand wanting to wait until his value came down, but I'd rather have a RT locked up right now. I'm impatient though.
 

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Idgit;5040635 said:
This is weird. Either PFF is ranking wrong, or the league doesn't place as high a priority on OGs as message board fans tend to.
Their rankings aren't reliable at all. They're overly simplified formulas which sometimes create bizarre results that could be easily fixed. They don't really care to fix them, though.
 

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Well of course it has to be this way. Andre Smith, Winston, and Tyson Clabo are all still available upgrades. If we signed one of them, and all of our guard prospects were off the board and we are looking at Fluker... well no bueno,.


To me this says that they go guard in the first round if they can, then pick up with the signing of a RT after the draft.
 

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I would love to sign Winston and draft Reid Fragel or David Quessenberry late. Winston can start for the next two years and Parnell or Fragel/Quessenberry should be ready to step in and start.

I'm a big Fragel fan. For some reason Armstead got all the hupe after the draft because of his 40. Fragel ran a good 40, better bench press numbers, netter or close 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill.

Fragel in the 4th will ne a still.
 
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theogt;5040736 said:
I can understand wanting to wait until his value came down, but I'd rather have a RT locked up right now. I'm impatient though.

You see, the key to a successful free agency is waiting until all the desirable free agents are gone and then swoop in to snatch up the great bargains! :jackpot:
 

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supercowboy8;5040794 said:
I would love to sign Winston and draft Reid Fragel or David Quessenberry late. Winston can start for the next two years and Parnell or Fragel/Quessenberry should be ready to step in and start.

I'm a big Fragel fan. For some reason Armstead got all the hupe after the draft because of his 40. Fragel ran a good 40, better bench press numbers, netter or close 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill.

Fragel in the 4th will ne a still.

Fragel
Only 1yr RT experience was a TE up until his senior season so he's looked as a developmental guy. Not the typical power run blocker. More finesse.

While Armstead comes from a smaller school he has been playing the position and it's considered all he needs his some technical refinement to his game and he was exceptional in post season games.
 

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supercowboy8;5040794 said:
I would love to sign Winston and draft Reid Fragel or David Quessenberry late. Winston can start for the next two years and Parnell or Fragel/Quessenberry should be ready to step in and start.

I'm a big Fragel fan. For some reason Armstead got all the hupe after the draft because of his 40. Fragel ran a good 40, better bench press numbers, netter or close 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill.

Fragel in the 4th will ne a still.

Not sure where Fragel is going to go. I'd say mid-rounds but someone may take him in the low second or in the third. I don't know how much this guy needs to be developed. He doesn't have a lot of time in the saddle as an OT but he's got all the rest. I'm looking for someone to come in and start or at least be a swing tackle. Everything depends on what they think of Free and Parnell.
 

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slomoxn;5040344 said:
What does if things go badly in the draft mean... Is Jerry planning on running the draft or is he going to allow Jason to continue to build this team properly?

It means that the guy we like in Round two goes a pick or two before we pick.

Just like every year
 

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Maybe a reason to wait till after the draft, is they have a few tackles that they would RATHER have than Winston, Smith, ect. Say Lane Johnson. And they don't feel they have the cap space to sign Winston and have him as a backup to say Lane Johnson if they are able to draft Lane Johnson.

My initial guess, and I certainly don't claim to be a guru on any of the prospects, just going off what people are saying. Maybe they view it as having 3 or 4 scenarios, that they are happy with in varying order of preference, with these being the possible scenarios in order of preference:
#1.) Draft Lane Johnson and let Parnell be the backup tackle
#2.) Draft Terron Armstead and let him and Parnell battle it out for the starting job.
#3.) Sign Eric Winston and let him be the short term solution at RT.
#4.) Stick with what they have and let Parnell and Free battle it out for the starting job.
 

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I'd rather they pick up one of those three in FA now and focus on the interior of the o-line in the draft. i think that would help the o-line in a huge way.
 

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SMCowboy;5041063 said:
Maybe a reason to wait till after the draft, is they have a few tackles that they would RATHER have than Winston, Smith, ect. Say Lane Johnson. And they don't feel they have the cap space to sign Winston and have him as a backup to say Lane Johnson if they are able to draft Lane Johnson.

My initial guess, and I certainly don't claim to be a guru on any of the prospects, just going off what people are saying. Maybe they view it as having 3 or 4 scenarios, that they are happy with in varying order of preference, with these being the possible scenarios in order of preference:
#1.) Draft Lane Johnson and let Parnell be the backup tackle
#2.) Draft Terron Armstead and let him and Parnell battle it out for the starting job.
#3.) Sign Eric Winston and let him be the short term solution at RT.
#4.) Stick with what they have and let Parnell and Free battle it out for the starting job.
I'd be realy, really shocked if Lane Johnson is available mcuh outside the top 11
But yes, that would certaily be option 1.
 
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