Broaddus take on Garrett being fired after this season

[pancakeman]

I think being udefeated in the division and still not winning it would be not just a franchise record but a record that would shake the sporting world.

Certainly possible and even precedented: The 2010 Raiders went 6-0 in the division, but only 8-8 overall and didn't make the playoffs.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Oh sure they won 5 in a row lets all pile on that bandwagon cause I dun n forgot how they were 3-5 in the first half of the season. Last year it was Washington that was the apple of everyones eye and how great a change they made.

I agree. Wait till teams have a year of film on him. I guarantee they are nothing next year. And Fairytale-Foles is no more than a mere bus driver who has been luckier than any player that i've ever seen. His only saving grace is Mccoy. But at his work load this year, no way he survives another year.

 

[OhSnap]

Of course it would have to be an upgrade, I don´t want another puppet coach. By the way, if Garrett gets fired there’s no way he gets another HC position, at least not for next year, IMO he could get a job as an OC again, prove himself again and maybe in a few years get another opportunity as a HC.

Im not so sure a low profile team or a small market team wouldn't hire him right away if they could agree on a price. Miami loves old Cowboy coaches. The perception is that players and coaches will do better out of the Dallas spotlight and sometimes it's true. Thats the way it looks from my couch anyway. I'd like to hear an honest opinion from some more experienced head coaches that didn't have nothin to gain or an axe to grind about JG. I thought Barry Switzer was a good coach too. LOL

 

[maxdallasfan]

Oakland, Green Bay (no Rogers) and Washington are 3 of those wins. The other 2 are Arizona in Phil and Detroit (dome team in the snowblizzard game) so let's not pretend they beat a bunch of playoff teams.

Agree again. Plus, the NFL is basically saying here Philly, be relevant this year with a cupcake schedule to finish out the season. Let's make Arizona travel for a 1pm game. Parity reigns, and it's so obvious how the crappy teams from last year are getting "help" this year.

 

[OhSnap]

Certainly possible and even precedented: The 2010 Raiders went 6-0 in the division, but only 8-8 overall and didn't make the playoffs.

I did not know that was possible.

 

[OhSnap]

Certainly possible and even precedented: The 2010 Raiders went 6-0 in the division, but only 8-8 overall and didn't make the playoffs.

I can always count on Cowboy fans point out new ways in which they can loose.

 

[Coy]

Im not so sure a low profile team or a small market team wouldn't hire him right away if they could agree on a price. Miami loves old Cowboy coaches. The perception is that players and coaches will do better out of the Dallas spotlight and sometimes it's true. Thats the way it looks from my couch anyway. I'd like to hear an honest opinion from some more experienced head coaches that didn't have nothin to gain or an axe to grind about JG. I thought Barry Switzer was a good coach too. LOL

LOL, of course, anything could happen I just don´t see the merits from him to have another HC job right away, quite the contrary in fact, anyway I really hope that´s not the case and we end up playing in January.

 

[egn22]

Dallas two years in a row was in conrol of it's own destiny with Garrett and blew it both times.

Chip Kelly is in his first year as HC and has alread turned around that roster offensievly and his offense is scoring in bunches and is starting Nick Foles and wasn't gift-wrapped Tony Romo as his QB. There OL is utterly horrendous. Even he's adjusted his offenses accordingly.

preach brotha, preach!!!

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Oakland, Green Bay (no Rogers) and Washington are 3 of those wins. The other 2 are Arizona in Phil and Detroit (dome team in the snowblizzard game) so let's not pretend they beat a bunch of playoff teams.

Last I saw Jason Garrett doesnt beat teams with winning records either. Always an excuse when you need one for this guy. Kelley already has 2 wins over teams with records above .500. Half way to Jasons total. ALREADY.

 

[khiladi]

Your just seeing what you wanna see now. The Raiders rushed for over a 100 yds in every game but 2 before the Cowboy game and one of them was 93 yards. They get held to 50 yards and the RB got knocked out and they lost the game. But you cling to that idea that the Cowboys couldn't shut down their passing game even though they only scored 3 points in the second half.

So now you go from 'yards' rushing to points scored in the second half? How about I say the Raiders scored 2 TDs while rushing?

 

[khiladi]

Oakland, Green Bay (no Rogers) and Washington are 3 of those wins. The other 2 are Arizona in Phil and Detroit (dome team in the snowblizzard game) so let's not pretend they beat a bunch of playoff teams.

And they were 4-12 the previous year... Who have we beat, besides these same teams?

 

[OhSnap]

So now you go from 'yards' rushing to points scored in the second half? How about I say the Raiders scored 2 TDs while rushing?

So what? they lost. They only gained 50 yards and the luck ran out on those passes when the QB had to throw to move the ball. The game wasn't even as close as the score, they had to have the refs spot em 7 points on a non fumble. The defense held them to 17 points. 18-30 with no TD's and one int. Thats the passing game you claimed Dallas couldn't stop.LOL

 

[Miller]

The difference between Garrett and Phillips is that you could see that Phillips was trending down. That team was 1-7 and had obviously given up. This current team is 7-5, in the playoff hunt and has won 5 of their last seven. Not to mention that they don't give up when the going gets tough. You could easily make the argument that Garrett's tenure is trending up whereas Phillips' was trending down.

I don't get this mentality. What upward trending is there or has there ever been? Let's not forget that this team was a playoff team who won the one playoff game while Wade was here. The drop off cost him his job but the same talent existed. All Garrett has done maintain a .500 record while being inflexible, making horrible in game decisions and taking us nowhere. People keep saying they play hard for Garrett. ***, they should play hard for anyone. They are paid too. Comparing the 1-7 quitting to now is ridiculous. Players loved Gary Kubiak but they got out coached often. Let's not make it like Garrett has had a monumental task. Two first year coaches...Kelly and Trestman are already doing the same or better.

 

[khiladi]

So what? they lost. They only gained 50 yards and the luck ran out on those passes when the QB had to throw to move the ball. The game wasn't even as close as the score, they had to have the refs spot em 7 points on a non fumble. The defense held them to 17 points. 18-30 with no TD's and one int. Thats the passing game you claimed Dallas couldn't stop.LOL

I know it's difficlt to comprehend, but your the one that brought up the 'holding the number 4 ranked rushing team' to 50 yards as some superior stat. I said that's jus dumb, because they didn't have to rush, becase the attacked our weak secondary and got 14 quick scores and were easily moving the ball up the feld until their QB threw that pick to Car i the end-zone. If your talking about a win, whoppity-doo, another below .500 team. We beat a team that the Jets team, led by Geno Smith, that scored more than us.

But yeah, chalk that up assome impressive win...

 

[jobberone]

Ok, let's hire Shanahan. He's won two SBs. He knows how to coach. Or get Jimmy back. He won two as well. Oh, wait they didn't win jack at their next stop and one had a HOF QB and a good offense. Or Parcells. He turned around three franchises and won SBs. Oh, wait he was here.

I don't dismiss coaching at all. It's important. Sometimes it can be what puts you over the top. I posted (maybe this thread I don't know) that teams turn around every year. Well, that's the nature of the game now regardless of the coach. Every year teams from the playoffs the year before sink like the Falcons this year. Or the Ravens of the Harbaugh turn around fame.

You people just can't get it thru your head that coaches coach and players play. Some you can coach up and others you can't. Some play better with one coach than another. Most fall into the I'm a star anywhere, I'm a JAG anywhere, and I don't belong on anyone's roster.

Talent acquisition, making big plays and avoiding big negative ones, injuries, schedules, and breaks are what help more than anything. Throw in a good coach, QB, and defense and you have a shot.

Having said that, I said that if Garrett and the Boys got embarrassed then Garrett is in trouble. Monday counts as one. He's on thin ice.

If Jerry doesn't get out of the way and let a coach come in and hire his guys and do his thing then the coach will have to overcome that. Coaches don't need extra obstacles.

 

[cowboys2233]

I know there´s been a lot of debate on if Garrett gets fired if they miss the playoffs, even though Jerry said he will be back I 2014 I think he´s outta here if they don´t. Saying that I think they win the EAST this year..
This is Broaddus take on the matter.

On to the head coaching situation, does Garrett need to make the playoffs to keep his job?

I think he has all along. I know the general manager/owner came out and said he was safe. Even if you listen to the owner talk the last several weeks since then, the stance has softened. They realize the division if there for the taking and you have to find a way to do it. Jason Garrett has had two seasons – the Giants game two seasons ago and the Commanders game last year – to get this team in the playoffs, to win the division. He hasn’t been successful. I don’t see how the general manager/owner could stand there and say, ‘ok we’ll bring you back’ if this team doesn’t get into the playoffs. I don’t believe that’s the case. I’ve never believed that’s the case. It’s a bottom line business.

As healthy as this team has been all year, if he can’t complete the mission then they’ll find someone who will. Garrett has to get this team in the playoffs or he’ll be looking for a job. That’s the way the National Football League is. Garrett knows it.

I'm sorry, why am I supposed to care what this guy "thinks?" He is utterly clueless about anything going on inside the Cowboys organization. I think his latest was that his "sources" said Dwayne Harris wasn't going to be available against the Bears. Whoops. And frankly, that happens more often than not. But hey, thanks for telling us all "the way the National Football League is." Idiot.

 

[Plankton]

Ok, let's hire Shanahan. He's won two SBs. He knows how to coach. Or get Jimmy back. He won two as well. Oh, wait they didn't win jack at their next stop and one had a HOF QB and a good offense. Or Parcells. He turned around three franchises and won SBs. Oh, wait he was here.

I don't dismiss coaching at all. It's important. Sometimes it can be what puts you over the top. I posted (maybe this thread I don't know) that teams turn around every year. Well, that's the nature of the game now regardless of the coach. Every year teams from the playoffs the year before sink like the Falcons this year. Or the Ravens of the Harbaugh turn around fame.

You people just can't get it thru your head that coaches coach and players play. Some you can coach up and others you can't. Some play better with one coach than another. Most fall into the I'm a star anywhere, I'm a JAG anywhere, and I don't belong on anyone's roster.

Talent acquisition, making big plays and avoiding big negative ones, injuries, schedules, and breaks are what help more than anything. Throw in a good coach, QB, and defense and you have a shot.

Having said that, I said that if Garrett and the Boys got embarrassed then Garrett is in trouble. Monday counts as one. He's on thin ice.

If Jerry doesn't get out of the way and let a coach come in and hire his guys and do his thing then the coach will have to overcome that. Coaches don't need extra obstacles.

Any coach who comes into Dallas has to deal with obstacles. I can immediately think of two of them.


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[BoysFan4ever]

Stephen needs to hit the gym.

He's starting to look like Wade there.

 

[jobberone]

Any coach who comes into Dallas has to deal with obstacles. I can immediately think of two of them.


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I see Stephan as an asset with the caveat he is shackled by Jerry. I honestly thought Jerry was getting better and maybe that's true. But he's still too meddlesome. An he's fallen prey to being a celebrity. He needs to learn to speak like Romo and Garrett. Give them a sound bite without saying anything. Some people call that being diplomatic.

 

[Plankton]

I see Stephan as an asset with the caveat he is shackled by Jerry. I honestly thought Jerry was getting better and maybe that's true. But he's still too meddlesome. An he's fallen prey to being a celebrity. He needs to learn to speak like Romo and Garrett. Give them a sound bite without saying anything. Some people call that being diplomatic.

Considering that Stephen has his own radio show, and has used that pulpit to call out players (see Mo Claiborne) as well as make asinine comments about the Cowboys having "the secret sauce" this year, I don't exactly see how Stephen is any different than his father.