Broaddus: Tyron Has His Hands Full With DLaw

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Marinelli said that the WLB is always behind the 3-tech

Good explanation of that. I tried to speak on that early on about the over and under and how at times both our tackles play a 3 technique. It's not the simple defense some think it is and it has morphed over time.

The loss of Lee is much bigger than some think. He knows that defense and I'm worried his loss will hamper the ability of the LBers to play more complicated schemes. We'll see. If we can even recognize what the heck they are doing.

Both DTs basically play a 3-tech in the Nickel defense. Some teams like the Giants will play some even-front where the DTs aren't really a 3 or a 1. They're both head-up on the OG.
 

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I'm sure the OP would too...

Not in a million years, your posts are the gifts that keeps on giving. I haven't been this amused by pure football ignorance in a while. You should charge the zone a fee for your talents. Please tell us more about the elbows out walling off pass pro technique. You know the technique where the offensive lineman don't use their hands to block.
 

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Both DTs basically play a 3-tech in the Nickel defense. Some teams like the Giants will play some even-front where the DTs aren't really a 3 or a 1. They're both head-up on the OG.

Yep the gents play both tackles at the 2, this makes it more read and react. The 1 and 3 techniques are used to influence double teams between the guard/center and guard/tackle gaps respectively.
 

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Not in a million years, your posts are the gifts that keeps on giving. I haven't been this amused by pure football ignorance in a while. You should charge the zone a fee for your talents. Please tell us more about the elbows out walling off pass pro technique. You know the technique where the offensive lineman don't use their hands to block.

I don't recall saying anything about elbows, but if you feel the need to change the argument to make yourself look right, have at it.

But since you have decided to take one more stab at salvaging what credibility, if any, you have left, still curious about that question I asked earlier - Have you ever played on the Ol?
 

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Yes, Broaddus is a polarizing media person. He obviously is much more knowledgeable than most guys like Calvin Watkins, etc. The problem is that he is as emotional as fans and he does not use good logic.

He just reports whatever comes to mind without thinking it through. He has reported that players appear to be out of shape when it turns out the the player is not moving well due to injury. He has pet cats every year that he continues to try to sell. If he ever predicted that a player would be good or bad, he will continue to try to convince everybody that he was correct. Floyd was one example.

The other thing that he does is intermix his own opinions with what he's heard from the Cowboys coaches/scout/front-office. He sometimes has good info if you can determine that it was something that he has been told; however, if it was just his own idea, then he's usually wrong. In the off-season he said that he (Broaddus) would like to see Carter move to SLB and rush the passer more. Most people took that to mean that he had been told this information, but if you listen to his actual statement, it was just his own idea.

He reported the other day that Carter was a SLB and Wilber at WLB. Marinelli can out and somewhat tried to explain it. Basically, the 3-tech does not always shift sides when the TE lines up on the defensive right, even though technically that is now the Strong Side. Marinelli said that the WLB is always behind the 3-tech, which was a reference to plays where the TE lines up on the defensive right which changes the DL from a 4-3 under to a 4-3 over if the 3-tech does not move. The WLB is now on the strong side, but he's still not playing what they call the SLB position. It seems like Broaddus should have understood this concept, but instead he just reported that Carter and Wilber had switched positions.
Sure he has his worts, but I think he gives the best info out of anyone from the media. Sturm can give good info also but he has more worts than Broaddus imo.

I think the Carter to SLB was also a mix with what he was hearing. I think the coaches went into the draft thinking that they were likely to end up with Ryan Shazier so they would have moved Carter if that would have happened.

On what he reported the other day and it also kind of fits with the Floyd stuff. I don't think he has any experience with the true Tampa 2 coaches and doesn't know the scheme that well. His prior knowledge with that style defense was with Zimmer's version and maybe when he was with the eagles they ran something similar.
 

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Both DTs basically play a 3-tech in the Nickel defense. Some teams like the Giants will play some even-front where the DTs aren't really a 3 or a 1. They're both head-up on the OG.

Not sure we play much 0 technique but I'll watch for it. Didn't notice NYG did but doesn't surprise me. They have some guys for it. Good run defense. I wouldn't run it very often since so many teams play Zone Blocking. Too easy to get one guy moved, block the other tackles path to the ball and create a big hole.
 

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Not sure we play much 0 technique but I'll watch for it. Didn't notice NYG did but doesn't surprise me. They have some guys for it. Good run defense. I wouldn't run it very often since so many teams play Zone Blocking. Too easy to get one guy moved, block the other tackles path to the ball and create a big hole.

Zero tech is a NT aligned head-up on the Center. Marinelli/Kiffin don't use that alignment because it's a 2-gap.

In the Nickel the DTs have a wide split like a 3-tech with nobody in the middle because they're not defending the run. They don't do it 100% of the time in the Nickel. If the offense is 3 wide in short yardage, you could technically be in the Nickel but with a traditional DL alignment.
 

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Sure he has his worts, but I think he gives the best info out of anyone from the media. Sturm can give good info also but he has more worts than Broaddus imo.

I think the Carter to SLB was also a mix with what he was hearing. I think the coaches went into the draft thinking that they were likely to end up with Ryan Shazier so they would have moved Carter if that would have happened.

On what he reported the other day and it also kind of fits with the Floyd stuff. I don't think he has any experience with the true Tampa 2 coaches and doesn't know the scheme that well. His prior knowledge with that style defense was with Zimmer's version and maybe when he was with the eagles they ran something similar.

I basically agree. Like I said, he is 1000x more knowledgeable than guys like Calvin Watkins; although, that equation would be x = Broaddus/Watkins and we know that x = infinity when the denominator is Zero.

He never claimed that anybody said they were moving Carter to SLB, but that's what people think he is saying unless you listen to his exact statement carefully.

He once told someone on twitter that called him out that he does not put any effort into thinking about what he says before saying it. He said he just wants to convey his thought immediately and let the reader take it however he wants to take it. Actually, that might have been back when he was posting here and not twitter.

If we could just get a combination of the best of Sturm and Broaddus. Sturm is good at using logic and Broaddus has the football background.
 

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Good news.

There will be a day soon when this rookie has to put on pads and will show the world his talent or lack thereof.

Until then, this is just June. Like it is this time every year.
 

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Zero tech is a NT aligned head-up on the Center. Marinelli/Kiffin don't use that alignment because it's a 2-gap.

In the Nickel the DTs have a wide split like a 3-tech with nobody in the middle because they're not defending the run. They don't do it 100% of the time in the Nickel. If the offense is 3 wide in short yardage, you could technically be in the Nickel but with a traditional DL alignment.

I'm betting they run it some in short yardage situations although they plug the gaps as well. They run two 3s at times in run/pass situations not just in the nickel to the best of my recollection. They likely run it at other times but I'm not certain. With McClain they will be able to use him as a 1,0, and 3 tech although mostly he will be a 1.
 

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Dude, if they had a problem with spelling mistakes here... they'd have kicked me out of here years ago.

Your content is good, which is what counts. You talk good football.

We've all been meaning to talk to you about your spelling.

LOL. Who cares???
 

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It 's entertaining.
Dude, if they had a problem with spelling mistakes here... they'd have kicked me out of here years ago.

Your content is good, which is what counts. You talk good football.
don't worry about it. You try you best to give good, informative post that expresses your opinion. You can write it in the d Welsh language for all I care.
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So you are going with that huh? Thanks, I really needed the laugh after a killer workout! Do you have anymore?

Seems WAYY more likely the oline was told to calm down, then the a rookie d linemen is getting the best of one of the premier olinemen in the league...
 

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And guys like you who still watch the games and as I know first hand does go to games from time to time.

Jerry hasnt gotten any of my money in a few years ... And he wont be getting any time soon either...
 

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Jerry hasnt gotten any of my money in a few years ... And he wont be getting any time soon either...


So you don't watch the games on TV? It might not be directly your money but if youre paying for cable, or whatever, and you're watching the Cowboys on TV you're helping to keep their TV ratings up and therefor you're bringing Jerry money.

So either way he's getting money from you just like every other fan who watches their games.
 

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So you don't watch the games on TV? It might not be directly your money but if youre paying for cable, or whatever, and you're watching the Cowboys on TV you're helping to keep their TV ratings up and therefor you're bringing Jerry money.

So either way he's getting money from you just like every other fan who watches their games.

Yeah, well the whole nfl gets money from me.. This loser franchise isn't getting any extra
 
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