Broaddus: Tyron Has His Hands Full With DLaw

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If he was in OTAs getting destroyed would people be like.... So what no pads.

The obvious answer is no.

But keep pretending to be cool and say none of this matters.

Actually why do teams even have OTAs? After all I heard on the zone that it doesn't matter.

I honestly don't remember a player getting destroyed in OTAs. Injured maybe, but not destroyed. Continue on with your anti-bashing routine.
 

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I honestly don't remember a player getting destroyed in OTAs. Injured maybe, but not destroyed. Continue on with your anti-bashing routine.

"But keep pretending to be cool" Toruk's quote of the day. I too want to pretend to be coooool!
 

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"But keep pretending to be cool" Toruk's quote of the day. I too want to pretend to be coooool!

I am ice cold . How about you? On second thought, is it possible to pretend being cool on the Internet?
 

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It does make you wonder though when all the OTA/TC reports last year were that Tyron couldn't even touch D-Ware, and we know how that worked out.

But I wouldn't be at all surprised if DLaw turns out to be a very good player.

Demarcus Ware had 4 sacks in his first three games last year after the reports of him doing well in camp against Tyron. The issue with Ware wasn't that he couldn't play anymore, it was that he was playing injured most of the season.
 

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If he was in OTAs getting destroyed would people be like.... So what no pads.

The obvious answer is no.

But keep pretending to be cool and say none of this matters.

Actually why do teams even have OTAs? After all I heard on the zone that it doesn't matter.
LOL...Precisely.

I am sure all of the coaches all over the NFL are saying, helmets and shorts practices doesn't matter. Hell I could be home with my family, why am I here 24/7 to run helmet and shorts practices. BTW, how many practices are in full equipment? LOL...

The sad thing is if DLaw was getting killed in these unimportant practices the realist or the wishing for a 3-13 season crowd, this makes me chuckle, would be in here like this:

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Demarcus Ware had 4 sacks in his first three games last year after the reports of him doing well in camp against Tyron. The issue with Ware wasn't that he couldn't play anymore, it was that he was playing injured most of the season.

That's true, he only fizzled when the injuries started to take its toll.
 

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Demarcus Ware had 4 sacks in his first three games last year after the reports of him doing well in camp against Tyron. The issue with Ware wasn't that he couldn't play anymore, it was that he was playing injured most of the season.

That's true, he only fizzled when the injuries started to take its toll.

I expect Ware to do really well in Denver if he is healthy; however, releasing him was still the right decision for the Cowboys even if he has an All Pro season in Denver. The probability of him being injured again combined with the incredible salary was just too much to make it worth it for a team that didn't make the playoffs the previous season.
 

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The sad thing is if DLaw was getting killed in these unimportant practices the realist or the wishing for a 3-13 season crowd, this makes me chuckle, would be in here like this:

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lol! Really? The reaction would be that tame?
 

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In the midst of all of the negativity regarding our DL, how come no one is mentioning how good DLaw is looking? Some will say that it is the underwear Olympics but in pass rush situations you can still get a good look at who is doing well and who is stinking it up. Plus without pads, DLaw really cannot bullrush so all of his moves have to be speed related type moves. So he is not only doing more than holding his own against Tyron but he is doing so with a 1/4 less of his pass rushing repertoire.

A DL of Selvie, Hanks, McClain, and DLaw with a steady rotation of capable big and hungry young players playing 15 to 20 snaps with their hair on fire is going to shock the hell out of people. If DLaw can be the table setter that I think he will be, look out because we are going to beat the hell out of teams.

An Offensive Lineman actually depends on pads to wall off defenders. So, yeah, the "underwear Olympics" does make it difficult to tell how well players are doing.
 

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An Offensive Lineman actually depends on pads to wall off defenders. So, yeah, the "underwear Olympics" does make it difficult to tell how well players are doing.

Truth doesn't fit his agenda. I think any poster with the least bit of football knowledge knows that OTAs are more of a mental-learning type of practice instead of a physical practice. The OP really thinks he is doing great impressing the realist with his massive knowledge of the game. Let him have his moment lol.
 

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Truth doesn't fit his agenda. I think any poster with the least bit of football knowledge knows that OTAs are more of a mental-learning type of practice instead of a physical practice. The OP really thinks he is doing great impressing the realist with his massive knowledge of the game. Let him have his moment lol.

I guess I could have left that one alone. My bad.
 

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I expect Ware to do really well in Denver if he is healthy; however, releasing him was still the right decision for the Cowboys even if he has an All Pro season in Denver. The probability of him being injured again combined with the incredible salary was just too much to make it worth it for a team that didn't make the playoffs the previous season.
My sentiments exactly. I would have love to have kept a healthy Ware but Ware's health has become problematic. I wish him the best thought.
 

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An Offensive Lineman actually depends on pads to wall off defenders. So, yeah, the "underwear Olympics" does make it difficult to tell how well players are doing.

No, an offensive lineman depends on his hands in pass pro.

OL pass pro techniques 101 for the less informed is as follows:
  • Recognition (pads free)
  • Kick step (pads free)
  • set feet (pads free)*
  • punch (pads free)
  • Sit your anchor (pads free)
  • mirror DL (pads free)
  • * If the DL takes an outside rush skip the next steps and force the DL wide, upfield, and pass the QB.
The only disadvantage and OL has when pass protecting is a DL knowing that he won't get chopped/cut.

According to your very limited football knowledge, the OL still put both fists on their chest with their elbows pointed out to "wall off defenders" instead of using their hands to punch and hold while mirroring the defender with their footwork. Now your opinions makes perfect sense to me.
 

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No, an offensive lineman depends on his hands in pass pro.

OL pass pro techniques 101 for the less informed is as follows:
  • Recognition (pads free)
  • Kick step (pads free)
  • set feet (pads free)*
  • punch (pads free)
  • Sit your anchor (pads free)
  • mirror DL (pads free)
  • * If the DL takes an outside rush skip the next steps and force the DL wide, upfield, and pass the QB.
The only disadvantage and OL has when pass protecting is a DL knowing that he won't get chopped/cut.

According to your very limited football knowledge, the OL still put both fists on their chest with their elbows pointed out to "wall off defenders" instead of using their hands to punch and hold while mirroring the defender with their footwork. Now your opinions makes perfect sense to me.

Here's one area where I can agree with you, it's all about hands on both the OL and the DL. There's a reason why they measure arm length at the Combine, and there's a reason why guys fall because their arms aren't long enough. You have to be able to keep the other guy away from your body.
 

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No, an offensive lineman depends on his hands in pass pro.

OL pass pro techniques 101 for the less informed is as follows:
  • Recognition (pads free)
  • Kick step (pads free)
  • set feet (pads free)*
  • punch (pads free)
  • Sit your anchor (pads free)
  • mirror DL (pads free)
  • * If the DL takes an outside rush skip the next steps and force the DL wide, upfield, and pass the QB.
The only disadvantage and OL has when pass protecting is a DL knowing that he won't get chopped/cut.

According to your very limited football knowledge, the OL still put both fists on their chest with their elbows pointed out to "wall off defenders" instead of using their hands to punch and hold while mirroring the defender with their footwork. Now your opinions makes perfect sense to me.

Find some articles to copy and post from. If you look hard enough, you will find the article that says everybody is this thread is right except you. Just my last bit of advice. Carry on.
 

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Find some articles to copy and post from. If you look hard enough, you will find the article that says everybody is this thread is right except you. Just my last bit of advice. Carry on.

There's no doubt that he was off base at the start of the thread, but he's absolutely right about the hands. Now whether or not they are actually punching in OTA's, I highly doubt.
 

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No, an offensive lineman depends on his hands in pass pro.

OL pass pro techniques 101 for the less informed is as follows:
  • Recognition (pads free)
  • Kick step (pads free)
  • set feet (pads free)*
  • punch (pads free)
  • Sit your anchor (pads free)
  • mirror DL (pads free)
  • * If the DL takes an outside rush skip the next steps and force the DL wide, upfield, and pass the QB.
The only disadvantage and OL has when pass protecting is a DL knowing that he won't get chopped/cut.

According to your very limited football knowledge, the OL still put both fists on their chest with their elbows pointed out to "wall off defenders" instead of using their hands to punch and hold while mirroring the defender with their footwork. Now your opinions makes perfect sense to me.

Where exactly do you think an offensive lineman puts his hands on a defensive lineman? An offensive ineman uses the defensive linemans pads to control him. Were he to use his hands anywhere else, it would be called either holding or facemask. When there are no pads, there is nothing for the offensive lineman to get a grip on and control. Furthermore, as someone else pointed out, the rookies are going 100% to try and prove their worth. Guys like Smith are locks and are simply going through the motions. Now the question, have you ever played on the OL, or did you really just copy and paste this? Because everyone you are attacking actually has played on the Ol and for some reason you still believe you have a leg to stand on in this debate.
 
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