Broadus is saying they'll go DL at #9...

[theebs]

I have to disagree, there are some real pocket pushing 3-4 DL in this draft. We have been so content with run stuffing DE's over the years we have become complacent with the idea our DE's are only supposed to get 3 to 4 sacks a year.

It's simply does not have to be the case.

I know nothing about the draft yet.

But I think it will be hard to find ends in the base defense to get to the qb, but seeing that those same guys rotate in and out in the nickel defense and do rush the qb probably a good portion of the time it is very important that we get guys like this.

That is why i was always so dissapointed with hatcher, I thought from day 1 he would be an animal inside in the nickel lineup. He never has been.

Hopefully lissemore will help a little.

 

[Cowboyslife]

I don't like the trading down business, especially when you have a top 10 pick. Hopefully it's not often that Dallas will be in this position, so they better get a blue chip player out of this draft, and they only come in the top 10 picks.

 

[CATCH17]

If it were me I'd cut Bigg and use his money to get Mankins in here.

Kosier can play RG in a blink of an eye too. If not go with Holland or a draftee like Moffitt/Pouncey.

All guys who are smart and fit what we do.

 

[CCBoy]

I saw an early draft that had Peterson gone very early, and Dallas taking the next corner at their nine slot...

 

[Patton]

I don't like the trading down business, especially when you have a top 10 pick. Hopefully it's not often that Dallas will be in this position, so they better get a blue chip player out of this draft, and they only come in the top 10 of the draft.

I hate trading down, but the idea that blue chippers are only available in the top 10...:laugh2:

 

[lostinomiya]

Vela and Bunting have been discussing Fairley and then C Jordon as guys who would help the 3/4 Defense out a lot with the first pick, with Fairley gone so Jordan as the pick.

Vela seems to think more push from the DL is needed to improve the overall D performance.

 

[Doomsday]

Wes Bunting thinks Dallas is going to take Cam Jordan. I think that it is a bit of a reach but he thinks he will rise up the draft boards.

 

[DWhite Fan]

I hope he is. It will be difficult to replace him. He had a terrible year, but we know he can have a great year too.

But, will he? That is the "Bigg" question...

 

[Patton]

Jordan looks like he belongs on the strong side of a 4-3 defense rather than at 3-4 end to me. He's a bit light in the britches. He's no more than 275-280. He's quick, but he should be quick. I don't know that he's the answer honestly.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I have to think that we all might be upset because I think unless we get a RT in FA, we keep Columbo.

Now that might not be as bad as you think. IF we do keep him, do not address RT in FA than I have to hope we draft a RT or hope that Young progresses a great deal.

I would not like it much, but I would not be too buttsore if Columbo started the first 2-3 games while a young RT (currently on the roster or via the draft) learns the ropes and eventually takes over.

Now you don't want to pay someone Columbos salary to sit on the bench most of the year.

At the same time you don't want to just cut him, not address the position in FA, not have Sam Young read and not get a OT in the draft because we just miss (ala like we did with unger) or go after other positions and waiting till the later rounds to get one.

In other words as bad as Columbo may be, unless we get his replacement in FA I would hold off just cutting him. I don't need some rook or current player on the team taking over at RT that winds up being Petitti (no offense to him but he was not ready).

No, this is not a defense of Columbo. I just want to make sure we have a viable replacement for him before we just let him go. And Contrary to popular opinion in John Madden fantasy football fandom...anybody is better than (insert players name here) is not always the case.

Just something to consider.

All in all I think he will be gone though.

 

[CCBoy]

The pocket pushing 3-4 DE is as rare a breed as the "play making safety." It's really not even worth looking for them. You can wish and hope that they exist, but they don't.

It's easier to differentiate players at other positions.

Tell him like it is...

In the NFL, even the smaller players have phsical strength and skills of most of the 'large' players in college. There is a major transition for even the best of players arriving at the professional levels. Although some do survive, rarely do interior players dominate stepping up initially...and for reason.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Also, his presence doesn't make us instantly better on defense. The Lions got Suh, the Jags got Alualu, and both defenses were still stinky.

No, both defenses were middle of the pack ... which was a vast upgrade from where they were a year ago.


What position specifically improves us instantly on defense? Safety? There isn't an impact safety in the draft. There probably won't be one drafted until Round 2, and that's because some team out there is so desperate for one they'll reach.

Cornerback? With NFL offenses being so spread out and with QBs like Brady, Manning, Rivers and Brees so good at finding their secondary reads what good does one good CB do you? Look at the AFC Championship game last year between the Jets and Colts. Revis takes Reggie Wayne away and Manning still throws for 377 yards, 3 TDS and puts up 30 points on the board throwing to his 2nd, 3rd and 4th targets.

IMHO, the best way to have a defense hasn't changed for years ... you have to be able to get consistent pressure on the QB bringing no more than 5 guys, preferably 4, and drop as many bodies back into coverage as possible to cover the entire field.

 

[TheSport78]

I'd rather trade down and grab OT Gabe Carimi and S Deunta Williams. This draft seems to be loaded at DL so there's no need to reach for someone at the #9 spot.

 

[Cowboyslife]

I hate trading down, but the idea that blue chippers are only available in the top 10...:laugh2:

Let's not get too literal here. You can ultimately gain a blue chipper out of an undrafted rookie, see Tony Romo. But do you ultimately want your roster to be made up of undrafted rookies? If they pan out, it's cheaper, yes. The idea however is to reach into that top 10 percentile though.

 

[CCBoy]

I have to think that we all might be upset because I think unless we get a RT in FA, we keep Columbo.

Now that might not be as bad as you think. IF we do keep him, do not address RT in FA than I have to hope we draft a RT or hope that Young progresses a great deal.

I would not like it much, but I would not be too buttsore if Columbo started the first 2-3 games while a young RT (currently on the roster or via the draft) learns the ropes and eventually takes over.

Now you don't want to pay someone Columbos salary to sit on the bench most of the year.

At the same time you don't want to just cut him, not address the position in FA, not have Sam Young read and not get a OT in the draft because we just miss (ala like we did with unger) or go after other positions and waiting till the later rounds to get one.

In other words as bad as Columbo may be, unless we get his replacement in FA I would hold off just cutting him. I don't need some rook or current player on the team taking over at RT that winds up being Petitti (no offense to him but he was not ready).

No, this is not a defense of Columbo. I just want to make sure we have a viable replacement for him before we just let him go. And Contrary to popular opinion in John Madden fantasy football fandom...anybody is better than (insert players name here) is not always the case.

Just something to consider.

All in all I think he will be gone though.

Agreed, and then there is continuity and experience factors as well. If I go from the experience on the outside, I would at least replace that degree of veteran presence as a backup. That's forcing hands in free agency, somewhat.

 

[Miller]

A couple of things

1) I wouldn't move down. The team has overstated its "talent" over the years and last time we stockpiled picks in a draft things didn't turn out too well in those deeper rounds. When you have a top 10 pick you take a Top 10 talent.

2) I'd go DB or OL. We aren't sure how Jenkins is going to come back and I think Scandrick will always be more of a nickle. With Newman getting long in the tooth I think you need a guy who can be developed and at this point in the draft you are hoping to not pick Top 10 again. So grab one. O-line is a given on this team. If anyone read Gosselin's chat he was saying the Cowboys need to get younger, not older at some of these positions and I agree at O-line.

 

[SDogo]

IMHO, the best way to have a defense hasn't changed for years ... you have to be able to get consistent pressure on the QB bringing no more than 5 guys, preferably 4, and drop as many bodies back into coverage as possible to cover the entire field.

The truth.

It's makes all the difference in the world for any defense.

 

[CATCH17]

BP

I think Colombos body has gave out on him guys who are better than him will be simple to find if we put any effort into it.

I doubt very seriously Sam Young after an offseason won't be better than him too.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I don't know how much physicality plays in shoddy footwork and hand placement.

Reading a drivers handbook manual about proper driver technique is no substitute for getting on the road. I'm pretty sure it helps to work on the technique of footwork and handplacement if you'e actually doing in practice what you would be doing in a game. You're not playing in a vaccuum in a game against stationary blocking sleds, you're playing against live bodies coliding. For the life of me I don't know wouldn't you practice in the conditions as well.

 

[Cowboyslife]

BP

I think Colombos body has gave out on him guys who are better than him will be simple to find if we put any effort into it.

I doubt very seriously Sam Young after an offseason won't be better than him too.

I don't know if Colombo's body has given out, but he plays with very bad technique.