Broadus is saying they'll go DL at #9...

[BrAinPaiNt]

Ndumakong Suh???

Again...do people think Nick or Marcel is equal to Suh?

I really don't think they are but I could be wrong.

 

[Randy White]

I caught him on the radio the other day and he was relaying info from demitrof (falcons GM) who came on with him last week and he said that this draft is loaded with 3-4 defensive players. Lineman and linebackers and that is good for us.

The problem is everyone seems to be playing this defense and looking for the same players, so that is tough.

Anybody paying attention to the players coming out knows that. All you had to do is go to BSPN's draft website and take a look at the Scout's top 20 and you would have seen it.

We are going to have a chance at a " primo " ( using Hitzguez term ) OLB or DE if we wanted to. Problem is that it's not a great position of need if you look at our roster and it could bring up a huge dilema. Yes, alot of people are upset with Spencer and they have a right to be ( I'm not thrilled with him and his inability to read plays properly ) , but what are the Cowboys supposed to do with him ? Cut him ? Bench him ? Give up on a #1 draft pick before his 4th season ? So let's say that we draft an OLB/DE type and give that player #9 slot money. What are we supposed to do with him ? Play him behind Spencer ?

Same thing with a DE. You know that DE's in our 3-4 are basically DTs, in charge of the run first. Most of us are in favor of what the Cowboys will probably end up doing which is moving JRatt to DE. We're going to keep Igor, probably bring Bowens back, have Lissemore, and " maybe " Hatcher too. We will draft somebody, but would it be wise to use the #9 ( and that salary slot ) on a DE who most likely won't be starting from day one ?

My pet player in this draft ( other than Peterson ) is Robert Quinn from North Carolina. I'd love it if we get him, but then those question would still come up. Marcell Dareus would be the guy who'd make the most sense, and he's a hell of a player, but are sure we want to spend that pick on a, basically, NG ?

Now that Luck is not entering the draft, which probably means Peterson might go higher than previously thought ( although we still have a great chance if he gets past both Denver and Cincinnati ) I'm thinking that moving down to the middle of the pack and drafting somebody like center Mike Pouncey or CB Janoris Jenkins ( if he falls there ) makes more sense than staying at #9 and making a pick there. Either of those players could come in and help right away, we get extra picks for later, and we wouldn't be sattled with a #9 salary slot, which represents a 30 million dollars contract with at least a 20 million dollars signing bonus, which is what CJ Spiller got at that spot this year.

 

[trickblue]

Maybe grab a Von Miller and Gabe Carimi.

Miller may be one of the biggest dark horses in this draft...

When healthy he is almost unstoppable...

 

[The Realist]

We've ignore DL for way too long?

That's funny!

If 3-4 DE position is deep can't you get one later?

I don't take a 3-4 DE top 15 unless I think he can slide inside on nickel and get 8-10 sacks. College 3-4 or 4-3 DE's usually can't do that. 4-3 guys are usually longer and use to playing in space. 3-4 DE's are use to being two gappers.

 

[CCBoy]

Reading a drivers handbook manual about proper driver technique is no substitute for getting on the road. I'm pretty sure it helps to work on the technique of footwork and handplacement if you'e actually doing in practice what you would be doing in a game. You're not playing in a vaccuum in a game against stationary blocking sleds, you're playing against live bodies coliding. For the life of me I don't know wouldn't you practice in the conditions as well.

All the practice in the world doesn't prepare you if you don't practice like the real thing...

 

[InmanRoshi]

Do you see a player the caliber of Seymour or Wilfork in this draft?

Seymore wasn't a surefire Seymore type player in his own draft. He was horribly inconsistent at Georgia. There's no sure thing in the draft. I just know you can't go wrong with adding another difference maker in your defensive front. Especially when it's considered the strength this draft and we have 3 of our top 4 DEs on the current roster not under contract for next year and a the only remaining player as a JAG who the new coaching regime may not even want.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Maybe it's me, but it seemed like Leonard improved quite a bit under Garrett. I think he's the type of guy who would better served with Garrett's more physical, hard hitting practices in pads. He depends on his physicality, so naturally he needs to practice being physical and pushing people around to get ready for games. To just have him standing around during the week playing glorified flag football and then asking him to turn it on at gametime isn't going to work.

Colombo is toast, upgrading his spot has to be priority #1 before any other position on the OL.[/QUOTE This, I thought he got a little better also, everyone did, except Colombo, whose shot.

 

[CarlAllDay]

Or worse, Marc Colombo.

Ok guys stop it...you guys are really starting to ruin my day....lol...I dont even want to picture those guys back as cowboys....me and Romo are still having nightmares thinking about those guys up front:bang2:

 

[The Grim Reaper]

We should listen to carefully to Broaddus. His track record is impeccable, especially lately.

Jason Garrett would not be our Head Coach because high ranking people with the Cowboys staff were not enamored with him.

Tony Romo is not a franchise QB and we should maneuver to acquire Andrew Luck because he and Bradford have that special something that Tony lacks.

You might as well get ready to buy Marcell Dareus jerseys.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

that is the predicament the chiefs found themselves in two years ago in the draft. They ended up taking a 34 run stopper at number 3 in the draft cause they had to!

They didn't have to. Brian Orakpo was pretty much the consensus top defensive player and should've been the pick. They really just over valued the DE position.

 

[InmanRoshi]

We've ignore DL for way too long?

Check the calender. It's not 2006 anymore. Jerry's been out chasing his "wow" players the last four years. and the Cantys, Spears and Hatchers have played out their contracts and are either out the door or on their way out the door.

In the last 4 drafts combined we've spend a 3rd round pick on Hatcher, and a 7th round pick on Lissemore. I defy you to find another NFL franchise that has neglected the DL more in the last four years in the draft. How do you think you end up in a situation where 3 of your top 4 defensive ends aren't even under contract for the following year?

 

[TheRat]

Ugh. That's depressing. Defensive linemen are almost never worth top picks.

Really? Suh? Even Tyson Alaulu was thought to be a reach at 10 and had a rookie year worthy of a top ten pick. Sorry but I have to disagree. The defensive line is the most important part of your defense.

 

[TheRat]

Check the calender. It's not 2006 anymore. Jerry's been out chasing his "wow" players the last four years.

In the last 4 drafts combined we've spend a 3rd round pick on Hatcher, and a 7th round pick on Lissemore. I defy you to find another NFL franchise that has neglected the DL more in the last four years in the draft. How do you think you end up in a situation where 3 of your top 4 defensive ends aren't under contract for the following year?

You forgot Montavious Stanley in the 6th in 2006 and Josh Brent in the supplemental 7th. But point well taken.

 

[Randy White]

Again...do people think Nick or Marcel is equal to Suh?

I really don't think they are but I could be wrong.

Neither is equal to Suh, although Dareus would be a force in a 4-3 defense. Nick reminds me of former Rams ( and Deadskins ) DT Sean Gilbert.

 

[Randy White]

Seymore wasn't a surefire Seymore type player in his own draft. He was horribly inconsistent at Georgia. There's no sure thing in the draft. I just know you can't go wrong with adding another difference maker in your defensive front. Especially when it's considered the strength this draft and we have 3 of our top 4 DEs on the current roster not under contract for next year and a the only remaining player as a JAG who the new coaching regime may not even want.

Tell me which DE in this draft that will be available at #9 is worth a 20+ million dollars signing bonus.

The Cowboys could sign ALL three of the DEs that are not under contract ( not that they should ) for that amount, and have plenty of cash left over.

 

[superpunk]

If a CB is taken #1 and a 3-4 DE is taken in the top 10 in the draft I will eat my hat.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Check the calender. It's not 2006 anymore. Jerry's been out chasing his "wow" players the last four years.

In the last 4 drafts combined we've spend a 3rd round pick on Hatcher, and a 7th round pick on Lissemore. I defy you to find another NFL franchise that has neglected the DL more in the last four years in the draft. How do you think you end up in a situation where 3 of your top 4 defensive ends aren't under contract for the following year?

In that same time frame of the Olinemen we have drafted... One is a starter and we have one other on the current roster. The rest are either gone or on the practice squad.

The argument for the Oline is just as strong as the Dline argument. I would say with Columbo and Big playing the way they have it might be stronger and then you add in Kosier in his last contract year and Free in his current contract status.

 

[TheRat]

Tell me which DE in this draft that will be available at #9 is worth a 20+ million dollars signing bonus ?

The Cowboys could sign ALL three of the DEs that are not under contract ( not that they should ) for that amount, and have plenty of cash left over.

I would like to see how Muhammad Wilkerson does at the combine. He is someone who could shoot up the boards.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Im no draft expert but this years top 10 seems pretty weak... Reminds me of the year we drafted Russell Maryland #1. Steady solid pro but no superstar.
This is how that draft went:
1. Russell Maryland
2. Eric Turner
3. Bruce Pickens
4. Mike Croel
5. Todd lyght
6. Eric Swann
7. Charles Mcrae
8. Antone Davis
9. Stanley Richard
10. Herman Moore

Blah...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If a CB is taken #1 and a 3-4 DE is taken in the top 10 in the draft I will eat my hat.

You eating the purple bandanna would be...hawt.

If it happens, video tape it for us.