Broadus is saying they'll go DL at #9...

i wouldnt be upset if we spent out entire draft on D and O linemen i think its the weakness of this team..improvement on the d line would make our secondary look alot better.....maybe squeeze a safety in somewhere around 3 or 4th round....Sens, Tnew , Jenkins and Scandrick will be just fine hopefully AOA can step up and replace ball...or possible free agent (Champ)...and our o line needs an infusion of more hungry youth
 
InmanRoshi;3788866 said:
Check the calender. It's not 2006 anymore. Jerry's been out chasing his "wow" players the last four years. and the Cantys, Spears and Hatchers have played out their contracts and are either out the door or on their way out the door.

In the last 4 drafts combined we've spend a 3rd round pick on Hatcher, and a 7th round pick on Lissemore. I defy you to find another NFL franchise that has neglected the DL more in the last four years in the draft. How do you think you end up in a situation where 3 of your top 4 defensive ends aren't even under contract for the following year?

Hard to add DE's when your 2 deep is Spears, Ratliff, Igor, Hatcher, Siavii, Bowen. How many DL can you realistically carry?

They did exactly what they should do when you really like your starters and depth. They added depth late in Lissemore and Price who you didn't mention.

We control the destiny of the 3 DE's who are free agents. If Jerry and Garrett wan them back they will be back. Jerry never misses on a free agent that he wants.

Anyone who says ignored DL has no clue what they are talking about.
 
dadymat;3788953 said:
i wouldnt be upset if we spent out entire draft on D and O linemen i think its the weakness of this team..improvement on the d line would make our secondary look alot better.....maybe squeeze a safety in somewhere around 3 or 4th round....Sens, Tnew , Jenkins and Scandrick will be just fine hopefully AOA can step up and replace ball...or possible free agent (Champ)...and our o line needs an infusion of more hungry youth

AOA just has to step up for us this year.

We spent a quality pick on that guy.


Im just not sure the guy has good enough agility to turn and run.

Im affraid he's another 30 yards down field type of defender.
 
Better just agree with what he says or you'll get some lame PM from him (Supposedly) where he assumes you actually read or listen to his junk. It's kind of funny, actually.
 
The Realist;3788955 said:
Hard to add DE's when your 2 deep is Spears, Ratliff, Igor, Hatcher, Siavii, Bowen. How many DL can you realistically carry?

They did exactly what they should do when you really like your starters and depth. They added depth late in Lissemore and Price who you didn't mention.

We control the destiny of the 3 DE's who are free agents. If Jerry and Garrett wan them back they will be back. Jerry never misses on a free agent that he wants.

Anyone who says ignored DL has no clue what they are talking about.

I'm sorry .. did you mean to imply that we were "stockpiled" because we had Junior Savii? Or was that a typo? And heaven forbid we attempt to upgrade over world beaters like Igor and Bowen.


And I'm not sure what you mean by "control our destiny" with our free agents. Do we have the opportunity to pay for a bunch of proven mediocre to sub mediocre players? Or vastly overpay Spears more than he's worth? Sure, I guess we have the "destiny" to do that. I guess it's good to be the king.


Sorry I forgot the 7th round draft pick in Brent. If that's considered stockpiling talent, then we're pretty much set at every position. No need to look at secondary, we've taken Ball, AOA, Scandrick and other late rounders there. Looks like we're good. I guess we can focus our attention on spending another 1st round pick on a 3rd down back or WR or 2nd TE. Can't have enough of those.
 
BraveHeartFan;3788986 said:
Better just agree with what he says or you'll get some lame PM from him (Supposedly) where he assumes you actually read or listen to his junk. It's kind of funny, actually.
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The Realist;3788955 said:
Hard to add DE's when your 2 deep is Spears, Ratliff, Igor, Hatcher, Siavii, Bowen. How many DL can you realistically carry?

They did exactly what they should do when you really like your starters and depth. They added depth late in Lissemore and Price who you didn't mention.

We control the destiny of the 3 DE's who are free agents. If Jerry and Garrett wan them back they will be back. Jerry never misses on a free agent that he wants.

Anyone who says ignored DL has no clue what they are talking about.

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InmanRoshi;3788922 said:
Tell me what player at any position taken at the 9th pick in the draft is going to be worth a 20+ million signing bonus.

DE/OLB Adrian Claybourne, DT Marcell Dareus, DE/OLB Ryan Kerrigan, maybe DE/OLB Robert Quinn assuming he falls.

Is Darcel as good as Suh? No.

But he's worth it.


Problem is not those particular players, is the position we're in. Again, do we release Spencer in order to get any of those OLB/DEs type on the field ?

And Prince isn't as good as Darelle Revis. And Carimi is no Joe Thomas. And we don't need another WR, so that eliminates Green. Hell, let's just forfeit the pick.

Or simply use some common sense and trade down.
 
problem is that you have to find someone who wants to trade up
 
Both lines need a lot of attention. Im happy with either.
 
dbair1967;3788907 said:
Roy isnt coming back. He'll be one of the first people Garrett gets rid of, unless they hold onto him till draft time and try to trade him for something.
I think he stays. The cap hit is to much (and no one will trade for him with that contract) and if we get rid of him, we have to get another WR in here to replace him.
 
I like Marcell Dareus but I truly believe if we want to reach our ultimate success it will be through the offensive line.

Giving Romo time with his ability to buy time plus creating Running lanes for our backs will make our entire team better.

There is no way we can build a defense that we can rely on to win games in 1 year and we've spent draft after draft trying to do just that.

Just be good at rushing the passer, slowing down the run, and create some turnovers. You don't have to be elite to do that. Just look at the Colts and Pats last year.




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InmanRoshi;3788832 said:
I found where he had a knee injury so bad that he had to sit out two years out of the game, and I found where he had to have knee surgery in mid season just this year to clean up knee problems.

I'm not going to put 2 + 2 together for you, math class is down the hall.

None of that means degenerative knee condition, much having both of them afflicted in such a way. You can't just go in and fix a knee that's degenerating. And it is kind of odd that the Cowboys would rely on someone at OT whose knees could give out at any time and having no sense of urgency to field his replacement.
 
I would fix the Oline with FA.

I would get Prince or Peterson in the draft. If we had to move up a couple to get one of them I am fine with that as long as it does not involve the 2nd round pick

And I would sign back Spencer and Bowen
 
Right now, there are plenty of positions on this team that need either depth or a starter level upgrade - OT, OG, DE, ILB, S, CB. I think that they will be able to find someone at #9 who could fit the bill with that number of positions that need bodies.

To me, I would look to the lines first, as this is the backbone of the team. Resigning Spears and Bowen makes a lot of sense, but free agency should be used to fill the immediate needs, and make the draft more of a proposition where the BPA can be added (such as a Robert Quinn).
 
big dog cowboy;3789012 said:
I think he stays. The cap hit is to much (and no one will trade for him with that contract) and if we get rid of him, we have to get another WR in here to replace him.

His inconsistency deems that we have to replace him anyways. The only thing that would keep Roy Williams in a uniform is foolish pride.
 
big dog cowboy;3789012 said:
I think he stays. The cap hit is to much (and no one will trade for him with that contract) and if we get rid of him, we have to get another WR in here to replace him.

Yeah, I think that's the only thing that would keep him here. Assuming there's a cap next year similar to the one in the past, he'd count about 12 million if they released him, as opposed to about 9 million if he stayed. We'll see just how much power Garrett really has, because it's clear that Roy hasn't bought into Garrett, his system, or what he needs to do to be a reliable receiver.
 
burmafrd;3789010 said:
problem is that you have to find someone who wants to trade up

That's the key.. Depending on how far you'd want to drop, and the price you're willing to accept, it shouldn't be too much of a problem going by history. I mean, look at last year alone how many teams traded up into the just outside of the top 10 from the 20's..

The 4 teams that I'd target for trade downs ( not too far down, but it also means not too great of compensation in return ) are the Texans, Lions, Vikings, and Dolphins. Texans or Lions because they might want to jump on Prince ( whom I would not take at #9 ) who fills a need, and Vikings or Dolphins so they can jump ahead of the Deadskins for any of the QBs that might drop there. Problem is that the Dullphins don't have a 2nd round pick to play with.

Beyond that ( 16-20 ), I don't see a natural match. The Patriots " might " want to jump up IF they see a pass rusher they like ( and they do need pass rushers ), but they could sit where they are and probably get a pretty good one anyways. The Chargers might go WRs and they'll have a couple to choose from. The Giants, I don't know what they need and the Jaguars either, and the Bucs could use another big play receiver as well.
 
gmoney112;3789030 said:
And what DL will be worth picking at #9?

There are a number of them this year. Bowers, Dareus, Jordan, Fairley. It's a good year for DL in the draft.
 

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