This reminds me of a time when we were heading home from Lake Tahoe to the Bay Area and a rockslide shut the mountain road leading out of Tahoe down for a few hours. There was literally nothing you could do but turn your car off and wait for them to clear it. As we sat there in the cold and the freezing rain the road iced underneath us so when the traffic started to move my Suburban just spun in place and then started sliding sideways into the oncoming traffic lane. Fortunately everything was moving so slow that nobody hit me. Crazy stuff. Not showing proper respect to icy roads can git you dead PDQ.
I still remember lifting weights at a gym in Syracuse. Guy I was lifting with had bought a brand new 4 wheel drive jeep and he was telling me how great it handled on the ice lmao.
People buy a 4x4 or AWD and they have no concept that the faster your going in horrible conditions, the more risk you put yourself in because 4 wheel drive does nothing for you when you hit or even tap the breaks driving faster than you should.
I felt like a old fuddy duddy driving 7-8 hours (normally a 5 hour drive) on I-80 Christmas eve to visit my parents on the other side in the state in Pennsylvania. Snow packed roads, snowing pretty bad, no clean lanes, and there I'm driving like 50 MPH in four wheel drive when the few people on the road who were stupid enough to be out there were passing me like I was standing still. Most of those people I ended up passing when they ended up getting stuck in a ditch somewhere.
I learned up around Erie for the first time that even on a snow packed road, even driving "somewhat fast" in 4 wheel drive, when going around a bend on the road, even with good tires, the inertia of the vehicle can still pull you off the road. No accident on my end, but when I slid a little into the other lane, scared the living crap out of me. Learned that lesson well.
Having lived down south for the last two decades, southerners get a bad rap IMO for driving in snow. Northerners drive likes idiots as well in the snow
Please note, growing up driving "up north", I had my share of close calls being young driving in the snow, but I like to try and learn from my mistakes so I don't repeat them LOL