Brunell named starter, Jansen breaks thumb, Ramsey trade?***Ultimate Skins thread***
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Here's the link to the story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2159642
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2159642
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Here's one from the Insider Commanders Board:
and here's another:
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HomeOfLegends said:
They are conceiding defeat by large margins
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I'm a Skins fan stopping by and yes, I agree, I don't see the skins beating the cowboys with Brunell starting. Most fans see that Gibbs gave Ramsey the starting job early in the offseason and now gave him all of just over a quarter to show what he can do before pulling the rug out from under him. Last season he stuck with Brunell through 9 starts while he was stinking it up before replacing him with Ramsey and he doesn't even get a half? It's a sad joke and unless the defense plays the game of thier lives, it's not gonna be close.
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Mkyle said:I'm very, very, worried about this game against the Skins! I mean, didn't you see that offense light up the scoreboard? Against the Mighty Bears? Come on, that team put up 9 freaking points...that my friends, is scary!
If we can hold them to, say...uh, 6 points, we MIGHT be able to win...but, I'm worried about that potent offense of theirs!
Last I heard their kicker might be out too, so that 6 points may be too much credit you're giving.
What Gibbs did today -- pulling Ramsey so quickly after naming him the starter in camp just a short while ago -- tells me he still doesn't have a grasp on his team. Our coach is nothing if not decisive. He up and cut cold turkey our starting QB from a playoff team because he couldn't trust him -- season be damned apparently. Gibbs is toe-dippin to use a Parcellism.
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Brunell replaces Ramsey as Commanders' starting QB
Pasquarelli
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
Just one game into the season, Washington Commanders coach Joe Gibbs, who has never demonstrated any hesitancy about switching starting quarterbacks, has struck again.
ESPN.com has confirmed that Gibbs on Monday informed starter Patrick Ramsey, who suffered a sprained neck in the second quarter of Sunday's victory over the Chicago Bears, that he will be replaced by Mark Brunell when the Commanders face the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night. The move came incredibly quick even by Gibbs' standards, and followed weeks of public support for Ramsey, the team's first-round choice in the 2002 draft.
"This is something that is extremely hard," Gibbs said Monday. "You don't like doing this. I don't. Sometimes you don't chart the circumstances or what happens -- it just happens. Certainly it wasn't the plan I had going in, but sometimes plans change, and I think you do the best you can in dealing with it."
On Monday evening, Gibbs all but acknowledged that the switch was made for performance, and not injury reasons, by noting that he felt Ramsey was "fine" physically. "I'm looking for someone to establish himself as our quarterback," Gibbs said.
The switch further fuels speculation that Ramsey is not held in favor by the current staff and that Jason Campbell, the second of the Commanders' two choices in the first round of the 2005 draft, is the team's quarterback of the future. Certainly the Commanders did not invest a first-round pick in Campbell, a former Auburn star, to have him sit behind Ramsey for a long period.
Brunell, who turns 36 on Saturday, opened the 2004 season as the starter, was ineffective in the Commanders' poorly-designed offense, and was replaced by Ramsey after starting the first nine games of the year. Brunell never played in 2004 after his demotion.
But the veteran left-hander demonstrated improvement in training camp and Gibbs did not hesitate to put him into the game Sunday when Ramsey was injured on a sack by Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs. Even though Ramsey was cleared to return to the game, Brunell finished, completing eight of 14 passes for 70 yards, with no touchdowns or interceptions in nearly three quarters of action.
In a little more than a quarter, Ramsey completed six of 11 attempts for 105 yards, with no touchdown passes and one interception.
Neither quarterback drove Washington to a touchdown, and the Commanders' only scoring came on three John Hall field goals.
Asked following the game about his quarterback situation, Gibbs said he would wait to "see after two days off" and "see how [players] heal up." But it was suspected even then he was leaning toward a change.
Ramsey, 26, has appeared in 30 games, and started 24 of them, in three-plus seasons with the Commanders. The former Tulane star has completed 471 of 847 passes for 5,475 yards, with 33 touchdown passes and 29 interceptions.
The Commanders considered trading Ramsey to Chicago in 2002, even before signing him to his first NFL contract, because of a lengthy impasse in negotiations that kept him out of most of his first training camp. Ramsey was privately chafed in the spring of 2004 when the Commanders acquired Brunell from Jacksonville in a trade, but Gibbs convinced him that he would have an opportunity to compete for the starting job.
Most league scouts agree that Ramsey has starting-caliber talent but many also feel that, given the lack of confidence demonstrated in him by the Commanders, he might only succeed if he moves on to another franchise.
Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. To check out Len's chat archive, click here Insider.
Pasquarelli
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
Just one game into the season, Washington Commanders coach Joe Gibbs, who has never demonstrated any hesitancy about switching starting quarterbacks, has struck again.
ESPN.com has confirmed that Gibbs on Monday informed starter Patrick Ramsey, who suffered a sprained neck in the second quarter of Sunday's victory over the Chicago Bears, that he will be replaced by Mark Brunell when the Commanders face the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night. The move came incredibly quick even by Gibbs' standards, and followed weeks of public support for Ramsey, the team's first-round choice in the 2002 draft.
"This is something that is extremely hard," Gibbs said Monday. "You don't like doing this. I don't. Sometimes you don't chart the circumstances or what happens -- it just happens. Certainly it wasn't the plan I had going in, but sometimes plans change, and I think you do the best you can in dealing with it."
On Monday evening, Gibbs all but acknowledged that the switch was made for performance, and not injury reasons, by noting that he felt Ramsey was "fine" physically. "I'm looking for someone to establish himself as our quarterback," Gibbs said.
The switch further fuels speculation that Ramsey is not held in favor by the current staff and that Jason Campbell, the second of the Commanders' two choices in the first round of the 2005 draft, is the team's quarterback of the future. Certainly the Commanders did not invest a first-round pick in Campbell, a former Auburn star, to have him sit behind Ramsey for a long period.
Brunell, who turns 36 on Saturday, opened the 2004 season as the starter, was ineffective in the Commanders' poorly-designed offense, and was replaced by Ramsey after starting the first nine games of the year. Brunell never played in 2004 after his demotion.
But the veteran left-hander demonstrated improvement in training camp and Gibbs did not hesitate to put him into the game Sunday when Ramsey was injured on a sack by Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs. Even though Ramsey was cleared to return to the game, Brunell finished, completing eight of 14 passes for 70 yards, with no touchdowns or interceptions in nearly three quarters of action.
In a little more than a quarter, Ramsey completed six of 11 attempts for 105 yards, with no touchdown passes and one interception.
Neither quarterback drove Washington to a touchdown, and the Commanders' only scoring came on three John Hall field goals.
Asked following the game about his quarterback situation, Gibbs said he would wait to "see after two days off" and "see how [players] heal up." But it was suspected even then he was leaning toward a change.
Ramsey, 26, has appeared in 30 games, and started 24 of them, in three-plus seasons with the Commanders. The former Tulane star has completed 471 of 847 passes for 5,475 yards, with 33 touchdown passes and 29 interceptions.
The Commanders considered trading Ramsey to Chicago in 2002, even before signing him to his first NFL contract, because of a lengthy impasse in negotiations that kept him out of most of his first training camp. Ramsey was privately chafed in the spring of 2004 when the Commanders acquired Brunell from Jacksonville in a trade, but Gibbs convinced him that he would have an opportunity to compete for the starting job.
Most league scouts agree that Ramsey has starting-caliber talent but many also feel that, given the lack of confidence demonstrated in him by the Commanders, he might only succeed if he moves on to another franchise.
Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. To check out Len's chat archive, click here Insider.
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Sportscenter just reported than Ramsey has asked to be traded from the Washington Commanders. I cant blame him though, with all the arses in D.C. whining about him.
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can you blame him? it may be the best thing for his career.
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zagnut said:
I just think that Gibbs saw a Cash Cow in little Danny...needed some slick money to buy some more race cars, and that's why he took the job! Hey, if Spurrier can do it, by damn, Gibbs, a HOF coach, can damn sure do it too!
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Couldnt happen to a better team :laugh2: