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Some are forgetting that Charlton played a different defensive style in College... Much like Tapper, these were guys that played within a read & react scheme. Am I surprised they lack pass-rush moves at this level?

Absolutely not.

Let's see where the kid is in a month... And 3 months... And 6 months.
You hear that often.

Players say, well, I switched systems a lot.

Then when asked if that benefits them in a league where teams use multiple systems, they are the first to talk about how it made them better players.

Which is it?

Oh yes, you never did one thing right and capitalized on your traits.
 

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He sometimes got it right. Had to hide fact he was from Dallas when he ran Philly draft and was under alot of pressure. Came out with Tra Thomas LT (all pro) & Jeremiah Trotter MLB (all pro).

Agreed. One of the first guys he scouted as Green Bay scout was some dude on the Atlanta Falcons named Favre when they were looking to acquire him. That sort of worked out.
 

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That seems to be a bit of a rush judgement. That said, having watched likely all the same clips and read all the same perspectives you have, I do believe he will require some seasoning. We won't likely see him reach his potential until next year. And for rookie DE's, that's really not all that uncommon. Rare is the rookie DE that sets the world on fire from the word go.
But he didn't set the world on fire in college either. He looks three part, but he doesn't play the part.
 

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He was apart of an entire scouting department that evaluates talent. Scouts do not draft!

And you so conveniently leave out his successes!

I stand by my statement....."I would learn more from him then anyone on this forum!"

just like you left out ALL HIS FAILURES. I think the biggest indicator about him was when BP fired him he never got another scouting gig anywhere. THAT says it all.
 

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Agreed. One of the first guys he scouted as Green Bay scout was some dude on the Atlanta Falcons named Favre when they were looking to acquire him. That sort of worked out.

Considering that he was hired in Green Bay in their college scouting department in 1992, and Favre was already in the NFL at this point, this is an untrue statement. In fact, Ron Wolf had worked for the Jets prior to going to the Packers, and he was very high on Favre in the 1991 Draft. The Jets didn't have a first rounder that year after taking Rob Moore in the 1990 Supplemental Draft, and wanted Favre with their second rounder. The Falcons took Favre right before the Jets selection, and the Jets settled for Browning Nagle instead.

Once Wolf got the GM gig in Green Bay, he talked with Atlanta about Favre. Jerry Glanville overruled his GM, Ken Herock, and forced the trade to happen. Glanville hated Favre, thought he was a wasted draft pick, and wanted him out of Atlanta. Favre going to the Packers was due to two men - an impatient, impetuous Glanville and Wolf, his biggest water carrier. Broaddus had nothing to do with it at all.
 

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I want to give Taco the benefit of the doubt. But I questioned the pick from Day 1. Atlanta really screwed us by jumping us for Takk, who would have been a perfect fit as a RDE. Taco just lacks the quick twitch to be a pass rusher IMO. And yes, there are many ways to get to the QB, but we really need/needed someone who could get off quick and bend the edge. And Taco is not that. I think Taco will be a solid LDE, like Broaddus says. I hope that Damontre Moore or Tapper can be that guy at RDE, or that D Law rediscovers his form in a contract year.

I'm no expert, but I have to agree. Taco may turn out to be a good player for us, but he doesn't strike me as a player who will be able to overwhelm an offensive line with his speed and moves. I hope I am wrong. It is, after all, only the first week of camp.
 

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just like you left out ALL HIS FAILURES. I think the biggest indicator about him was when BP fired him he never got another scouting gig anywhere. THAT says it all.

I don't disagree with you. I think he's just saying that his experience, including his successes and failures, ranks his opinion above any of ours. As far as I know, none of us has ever had a scouting job to be fired from.
 

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I don't disagree with you. I think he's just saying that his experience, including his successes and failures, ranks his opinion above any of ours. As far as I know, none of us has ever had a scouting job to be fired from.

Or ever sniffed anywhere near a position with an NFL franchise.

Thank you, someone actually read what I was stating. Actually by the lack of but one rebuttaI, I know everyone but that one really understands!
 

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This is why I struggle to fully get on board with Broaddus.

He said if Smith was healthy, you would have to take him 4th overall. But back during that draft, he was pretty down on Smith, if I recall, saying that even if healthy he wasn't sure he was one of the Top 5 players in the draft. Seems like he's just covering his butt now in case Smith does come back and is back to normal.
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He's not covering anything, what he said is dead on, Smith is a top five talent if he was healthy coming into the draft, he wasn't healthy, in fact he had a very very serious injury and there is no guarantee Smith can play at a high level going forward, there is many unknowns with that type of injury......With that kind of a serious injury, Brian wouldn't have taken him in the top of the second round because DALLAS NEEDED GUYS THAT CAN PLAY NOW, not a guy that may or may not help you in one or two years if at all....I don't know why you can't follow that!

Broaddus (Bryan) claimed the other LB, Jack was better regardless of injury.
 

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:laugh::lmao::lmao::laugh:

That is one of the most uninformed posts that I've seen on this site and that's an incredibly low bar.

The scouting report on him is that he looks like the perfect specimen, but he's slow and makes very few impactful plays.

Seven defensive ends went before him in the draft. It's a position of demand, and the Cowboys absolutely had to have one.

Peppi Zellner was an exaggeration to make a point. I think he'll be another Marcus Spears type of player. Solid, but unspectacular.
 

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The scouting report on him is that he looks like the perfect specimen, but he's slow and makes very few impactful plays.

Seven defensive ends went before him in the draft. It's a position of demand, and the Cowboys absolutely had to have one.

Peppi Zellner was an exaggeration to make a point. I think he'll be another Marcus Spears type of player. Solid, but unspectacular.

Some draft analysts initially had him top half of the 1st round. All seemed to have him as 1st or 2nd round.

Peppi Zellner was never in the history of ever considered a possible 1st round pick or even 2nd round pick.

From NFL.com:
Rare combination of size, length and athletic traits as a rusher. Long-levered frame with athletic, knotted calves. Brings freaky athletic traits to table and is still growing into his body. Flashes instant reaction time off snap and up the field thanks to his twitch. Has enough upfield juice to push offensive tackles into hasty retreat. Generates pop through speed-to-power element. Very good flexibility throughout. Able to sink and swerve around corner if he gets early lead in race to the edge. Possesses hip swivel combined with shoulder turn to slip and flip around the corner of an offensive tackle he's engaged with as a pass rusher. Rushes with forward lean that keeps his momentum downhill. Uses rip-and-stab move and an ominous spin move that could turn into a dominant rush trait in the NFL. Elongated lateral slides can open into sprint very quickly to chase run play bouncing outside. Length gives him a shot at dramatically increasing his play-making ability against the run. Hand usage is improving.
 

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e only really question about Taco at this point is rather or not he has the work ethic to stay in the weight room and film room to get better. As a first round pick, you would hope that is something the coaches/scouts discussed with his coaches at Michigan before drafting him.

Interview with his coach at MI.

JM: What kind of pro projection do you see for Taco’s career if he ultimately reaches his potential?
GM: Oh, the sky’s the limit. The sky’s the limit and there’s a lot of reasons why, but probably one of the biggest reasons is that he’s got such great character. He’s such a great person and he comes from a great family. When you have all that, and you have the athleticism and the God-given height and arm length that Taco has, all of those things gives you a great opportunity to be very successful at the next level. I really believe that Taco will be very, very successful.

JM: Where do you think he needs to improve the most?
GM: I would think that he needs to continue to get stronger. He’s playing in a big man’s league now. He probably needs to continue to get stronger and I think the thing that they’ll do with him in Dallas, they’ll really work hard on more specifics in pass rush. They have a lot more time now than we do in college where you can spend a great deal of time on pass rush techniques. Taco’s a very intelligent person, so he’ll learn everything that they throw at him and he’ll take the next step that way.
 

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Considering that he was hired in Green Bay in their college scouting department in 1992, and Favre was already in the NFL at this point, this is an untrue statement. In fact, Ron Wolf had worked for the Jets prior to going to the Packers, and he was very high on Favre in the 1991 Draft. The Jets didn't have a first rounder that year after taking Rob Moore in the 1990 Supplemental Draft, and wanted Favre with their second rounder. The Falcons took Favre right before the Jets selection, and the Jets settled for Browning Nagle instead.

Once Wolf got the GM gig in Green Bay, he talked with Atlanta about Favre. Jerry Glanville overruled his GM, Ken Herock, and forced the trade to happen. Glanville hated Favre, thought he was a wasted draft pick, and wanted him out of Atlanta. Favre going to the Packers was due to two men - an impatient, impetuous Glanville and Wolf, his biggest water carrier. Broaddus had nothing to do with it at all.

He had nothing to do with it at all? Maybe we should let Bryan know then? From http://sportdfw.com/2012/08/08/a-sit-down-with-bryan-broaddus-exclusive-sportdfw-interview/:
For your career, who would you say are the top 5 players your scouting brought to a team?

“As a scout you are asked to study different players and give your view, in Green Bay one of the first players I ever got to study was Brett Favre, while he was in Atlanta. I was so nervous, but Mr. Wolf asked what I saw and I gave him an answer that I really believed in, so that worked out well.
 
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