Bucs adding full-time coaching job for women

[Hawkeye0202]

Until there is a women playing in the NFL, it is.

What does coaching have to with playing? The legit of the debate is whether or not a woman can an NFL coach. My point is there's absolutely no reason why not WITH THE PROPER training and experience. Such as going through the same college graduate assistant program and on to NFL internship.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

And it is.

That doesn't mean a woman couldn't learn it.


Football, unlike other sports, just doesn't have a league for women to coach in and gain experience. Coaching and experience go hand in hand.

You're forcing women into a sport that they don't have. Which is why I say football is a man's game.

Why they need "a league" to coach and gain experience when there are colleges and NFL?

 

[CATCH17]

Why they need "a league" to coach and gain experience when there are colleges and NFL?

Because I thought pro football was for the best of the best.


Just call this what it is. A PR stunt. That’s all it is.

 

[Nightman]

Why they need "a league" to coach and gain experience when there are colleges and NFL?

and soon there will be a Mrs Rooney Rule to force participation

 

[cern]

will she coach based on her experiences on the gridiron or coach from a book?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

and soon there will be a Mrs Rooney Rule to force participation[/QUOTE

I'm not sure anyone is "forcing" anything. But don't deny a qualified applicant a chance to compete coz her gender.

http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/article/20435804/5-things-know-49ers-assistant-coach-katie-sowers

 

[Hawkeye0202]

will she coach based on her experiences on the gridiron or coach from a book?

You lost me coz plenty of NFL coaches never played in college or NFL.

 

[Nightman]

plenty of qualified men are denied a chance but you aren't White Knighting them

 

[Hawkeye0202]

plenty of qualified men are denied a chance but you aren't White Knighting them

Oh lord, here we go. Let's stop here and move on.....

 

[cern]

You lost me coz plenty of NFL never played in college or NFL.

I stand corrected.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What does coaching have to with playing? The legit of the debate is whether or not a woman can an NFL coach. My point is there's absolutely no reason why not WITH THE PROPER training and experience. Such as going through the same college graduate assistant program and on to NFL internship.

Doesn't sound that way to me. Sounds as if this position is being created specifically for woman. This entire thing is based on exactly the opposite of what you are saying here. If and when a qualified woman applies, then I have no problem with her getting hired. After all, its the team that has to live with any results from that hire. But that is not this. You don't hire somebody in the NFL and train them to be an NFL coach. There are way too many qualified people who already have that part done and so the entire process is based on a bias.

As for my comment, it is a mans game. There are no women playing so Catch's statement, is correct. There isn't even room to debate that point, there are no women playing in the NFL. You don't have to like it but it is completely true.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I stand corrected.

The only thing I'm saying is with years of proper training and knowledge, there's no reason to deny an inspired woman a chance to compete for an assistant coaching job if shes best qualified.

 

[RamziD]

I agree about not playing. Forget about that.

I think a woman could easily be an NBA coach.

I just don’t see it in football. You’re forcing them into the role solely because of their gender.

There are no real women’s leagues that play with the dynamics that the men do and you’re giving someone a job at the highest level just because of their gender.

Football is a mans game. That’s just the way it is.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything. One coach is creating an extra position on his staff (one that does not affect other positions) for which he said he believes there are already a qualified group of female candidates who presumably would like the job. I don’t see any problem with that.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Doesn't sound that way to me. Sounds as if this position is being created specifically for woman. This entire thing is based on exactly the opposite of what you are saying here. If and when a qualified woman applies, then I have no problem with her getting hired. After all, its the team that has to live with any results from that hire. But that is not this. You don't hire somebody in the NFL and train them to be an NFL coach. There are way too many qualified people who already have that part done and so the entire process is based on a bias.

As for my comment, it is a mans game. There are no women playing so Catch's statement, is entire correct. There isn't even room to debate that point, there are no women playing in the NFL. You don't have to like it but it is completely true.

I stop reading at the highlighted sentence coz it covers my point entirely. I agree 100% Adrain method of "creating" a position is not the right way.

 

[RamziD]

Doesn't sound that way to me. Sounds as if this position is being created specifically for woman. This entire thing is based on exactly the opposite of what you are saying here. If and when a qualified woman applies, then I have no problem with her getting hired. After all, its the team that has to live with any results from that hire. But that is not this. You don't hire somebody in the NFL and train them to be an NFL coach. There are way too many qualified people who already have that part done and so the entire process is based on a bias.

As for my comment, it is a mans game. There are no women playing so Catch's statement, is correct. There isn't even room to debate that point, there are no women playing in the NFL. You don't have to like it but it is completely true.

See my post above. Arians believes there are qualified women for him to hire, so what’s the big deal?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

See my post above. Arians believes there are qualified women for him to hire, so what’s the big deal?

Big deal about what?

 

[RamziD]

I stop reading at the highlighted sentence coz it covers my point entirely. I agree 100% Adrain method of "creating" a position is not the right way.

Why is creating a position not the right way? Think of it as a paid internship. That’s pretty much what a QC assistant is. What exactly does it hurt?

 

[RamziD]

See my post above. Arians believes there are qualified women for him to hire, so what’s the big deal?

What’s the big deal about on the job training? Even higher level coaches are getting some on the job training. Arians believes there are already qualified enough women for the extra position he is creating.

 

[Dre11]

How long before the sexual accusations whether it's assaults or things said happens. Our film studies can get very graphic with some of the conversations we have amongst coaches, kinda like the barbershop.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What’s the big deal about on the job training? Even higher level coaches are getting some on the job training. Arians believes there are already qualified enough women for the extra position he is creating.

I don't know if this is meant for me or not but if it is, why does it have to be created if there are qualified candidates available? Why can't it just be a normal interview process and the best person for the job wins?