Bucs Lionel Gates Punches Pregnant Woman

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DallasEast;1442332 said:
Wait. Hold up. Where did you get Peggie Lavender attacking Gates? :confused:

I don't know if the woman attacked Gates or not, but I'm not gonna charge Gates as being the only guilty party here until the trial is over and he's convicted. We don't know what happened here.

I have seen pregnant women go off the deep end a couple times......and they sure weren't that worried about the fetus. Pregnant women can have some serious hormonal imbalances and some of them have a hair trigger temper. Couple that with a girl who is a little crazy to begin with and sometimes you have a time bomb.

Just because a girl is pregnant doesn't make her some kind of saintly Mother Teresa incarnate.
 

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I understand what Jay-D is saying. There are instances where you are absolutely within yourself to defend yourself - (pregnant) woman or otherwise.

From what they're saying about the forced entry, burglary, etc - this doesn't sound like one of those times.
 

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5Stars;1442434 said:
Great example, Jay-D! Some big, huge lady beating the hell out of some 12-13 year old boy! That's probably her kid!

:rolleyes:

Ummmmm....I believe that's her husband.

You and that guy have alot in common, since your wife was stabbing you with scissors and whatnot.
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superpunk;1442438 said:
I understand what Jay-D is saying. There are instances where you are absolutely within yourself to defend yourself - (pregnant) woman or otherwise.

From what they're saying about the forced entry, burglary, etc - this doesn't sound like one of those times.
At least not to me...

But then what do I know? :confused:
 

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superpunk;1442438 said:
From what they're saying about the forced entry, burglary, etc - this doesn't sound like one of those times.


Absolutely true.

I mean Gates may be the worst human being that ever walked the earth. I don't know him and neither do any of us.

What I do know is that we have a judicial system that will decide whether or not Gates is the antiChrist and hopefully it works better than it did for OJ.

Whatever happens, this stuff about striking women is silly. You don't strike anybody unless it's in self-defense.....and then it's no holds barred no matter who it is.
 

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Jay-D;1442439 said:
Ummmmm....I believe that's her husband.

You and that guy have alot in common, since your wife was stabbing you with scissors and whatnot.
:laugh2:


Yeah, maybe we did have the same problem as that video, but, instead of creating harm, I just left...

Remember, two wrongs don't make a right!

;)


Now, if your life is really in danger and you really need to defend against a woman, well, that goes for anything also...amimal, mineral or vegtable. You have to defend yourself, I agree...but, it's much better to try and turn the other cheek, if you will, and get the hell out before it gets worse...that's what I was taught, anyway...
 

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Jay-D;1442428 said:
I don't know if the woman attacked Gates or not, but I'm not gonna charge Gates as being the only guilty party here until the trial is over and he's convicted. We don't know what happened here.

I have seen pregnant women go off the deep end a couple times......and they sure weren't that worried about the fetus. Pregnant women can have some serious hormonal imbalances and some of them have a hair trigger temper. Couple that with a girl who is a little crazy to begin with and sometimes you have a time bomb.

Just because a girl is pregnant doesn't make her some kind of saintly Mother Teresa incarnate.
So, you agree that it may have been as I stated earlier:

Lavender kicked in her own door.
Punched herself in the face.
Destroyed her own property.
All the while he waited there with her until the police arrived.

Let's just slap some Pampers on her and call her an astronaut. :)
 

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Jay-D;1442443 said:
Absolutely true.

I mean Gates may be the worst human being that ever walked the earth. I don't know him and neither do any of us.

What I do know is that we have a judicial system that will decide whether or not Gates is the antiChrist and hopefully it works better than it did for OJ.

Whatever happens, this stuff about striking women is silly. You don't strike anybody unless it's in self-defense.....and then it's no holds barred no matter who it is.
This is where I disagree. Folks hit people unprovoked all the time. So just like you're saying don't assume facts that haven't been presented; don't assume he just had to be provoked before "alledgely" going off and tearing up that lady's apartment.

Some people really are just that stupid. :cool:
 

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Jay-D;1442443 said:
Whatever happens, this stuff about striking women is silly. You don't strike anybody unless it's in self-defense.....and then it's no holds barred no matter who it is.
I've always known that domestic abuse was a myth.
 

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Jay-D;1442431 said:
Remember guys.....don't hit your lady!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRMfxzy9KlM

Gates should have to go 2 or 3 rounds with this chick.
This is a very poor, poor example. This idiot didn't have an ounce of common sense than to simply walk (or run) away.

So, basically, in your opinion, if a woman (like the one in the video), is punching you, you should just punch her back? That there is no other avenue to resolve the problem? Just beat her the hell up?

Man, that's sad.
 

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Jay-D;1442450 said:
So let me get this straight......

Your wife makes a sandwich and you refuse to eat it.

She stabs you in the chest and threatens to kill your dog because of it.

You divorce her and give her everything you own.


I'm sure there isn't anything else that happened in the marriage to warrant this type of behavior. People stab each other in the chest all the time over a sandwich.....and then the stabber takes everything that belongs to the stabee and divorces them.

Whatever. :rolleyes:

True story...that is all I can tell you. :confused:


Now, I could have got up and beat the living crap out of her, but, what does that do? I could have been the one that ends up in jail even though it was not my fault...

Anyway, you can believe it or not...no big deal...

Carry on...

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DallasEast;1442446 said:
So, you agree that it may have been as I stated earlier:

Lavender kicked in her own door.
Punched herself in the face.
Destroyed her own property.
All the while he waited there with her until the police arrived.

Let's just slap some Pampers on her and call her an astronaut. :)

When I was in my early 20's I had a girlfriend I was with for about a year and she was living with me in my apartment. She had begun to get a little weird acting in the final 2-3 months of the relationship (I think she was bipolar) Anyways we just wern't getting along so I wanted to end the relationship.

The girl proceeded to go out on the front porch of the apartment, ram her face into the door jamb until her nose bled.....then she trashed the furniture out there and busted out a window......all while I watched her from the door in horror.

Then she ran next door and told everybody I did it to her!

Of course the police were called and there was a big hubbub and I was definately considered guilty before proven innocent for a couple hours.....but after alot of questioning and investigating she broke down and confessed what she did. She ended up in the loony bin and I haven't seen her in years.

Some of us have a different perspective when it comes to what the little ladies are capable of. ;)
 

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Jay-D;1442459 said:
When I was in my early 20's I had a girlfriend I was with for about a year and she was living with me in my apartment. She had begun to get a little weird acting in the final 2-3 months of the relationship (I think she was bipolar) Anyways we just wern't getting along so I wanted to end the relationship.

The girl proceeded to go out on the front porch of the apartment, ram her face into the door jamb until her nose bled.....then she trashed the furniture out there and busted out a window......all while I watched her from the door in horror.

Then she ran next door and told everybody I did it to her!

Of course the police were called and there was a big hubbub and I was definately considered guilty before proven innocent for a couple hours.....but after alot of questioning and investigating she broke down and confessed what she did. She ended up in the loony bin and I haven't seen her in years.

Some of us have a different perspective when it comes to what the little ladies are capable of. ;)


Why didn't you beat the hell out of her? Set her stright? You know, mano a mano?

:rolleyes:
 

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WoodysGirl;1442447 said:
This is where I disagree. Folks hit people unprovoked all the time. So just like you're saying don't assume facts that haven't been presented; don't assume he just had to be provoked before "alledgely" going off and tearing up that lady's apartment.

Some people really are just that stupid. :cool:

I agree with you.

Maybe Gates is the stereotypical over-aggressive nut job who was in a jealous rage or something.

Or maybe the girl is a crazy she-devil with monetary interests who couldn't keep her NFL trophy man on a leash.

Hopefully justice is served.
 

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Jay-D;1442459 said:
When I was in my early 20's I had a girlfriend I was with for about a year and she was living with me in my apartment. She had begun to get a little weird acting in the final 2-3 months of the relationship (I think she was bipolar) Anyways we just wern't getting along so I wanted to end the relationship.

The girl proceeded to go out on the front porch of the apartment, ram her face into the door jamb until her nose bled.....then she trashed the furniture out there and busted out a window......all while I watched her from the door in horror.

Then she ran next door and told everybody I did it to her!

Of course the police were called and there was a big hubbub and I was definately considered guilty before proven innocent for a couple hours.....but after alot of questioning and investigating she broke down and confessed what she did. She ended up in the loony bin and I haven't seen her in years.

Some of us have a different perspective when it comes to what the little ladies are capable of. ;)
Joe Pesci time.

'kay! 'kay! 'kay!

You were living with this woman for a year, came to the assumption that she was 'bipolar', but only thought that she was a 'little weird' during the last two or three months???

Her doc should've upped her dosage. :)

You must've been frozen in horror. I would've at least called 911. No woman is gonna do a Linda Blair on me and I'm going to just stand there watching. The whole thing sounds like a scene out of a Friday the 13th movie.
 

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5Stars;1442460 said:
Why didn't you beat the hell out of her? Set her stright? You know, mano a mano?

:rolleyes:

One thing I can hang my hat on is my wife has never tried to stab me.....yet.
 

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DallasEast;1442463 said:
Joe Pesci time.

'kay! 'kay! 'kay!

You must've been frozen in horror. I would've at least called 911. No woman is gonna do a Linda Blair on me and I'm going to just stand there watching. The whole thing sounds like a scene out of a Friday the 13th movie.

Yes she was wierd but I never thought she would do something like that to try to get me in that kind of trouble. She figured if she couldn't have me she was gonna get me thrown in jail. Fortunately she was too stupid to think about things like fingerprints.

This happened back around 1993.......so it was way before that movie "Fight Club" came out. When that guy in that movie started beating himself up in his boss' office I had a major flashback. :D
 

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5Stars;1442465 said:
Well, in that case, yes! Bet the crap out of the ******...show her who's boss! Break into her apartment, trash her place! That will teach the money grubbing hoe to watch out for big bad me!

Gotcha ya...

Or, he could pull one of them Rae Carruth gigs...that's even better! :confused:

:rolleyes:


Could she have beat herself up and trashed her own place? Yes.

Did she? Probably not but I'm not gonna rule it out until Gates is convicted.

Some of you people never learned the whole thing about justice and due process and trial by your peers and all that stuff. Are you American?
 
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