Bud Adams says he plans to keep Jeff Fisher

[joseephuss]

I don't see a lot of talent there, other than some Olinemen and Johnson.

13-3 in '08 was just short of a miracle. Any coach who can get that team to 13-3 with a washed-up Kerry Collins at QB has accomplished something.

They have some defensive talent and last year had Haynesworth.

I thought the Titans 2008 schedule was pretty weak. They faced a lot of bad teams or teams in transition. Look at the Colts. Prior to the start of last season Peyton Manning didn't get to work out in the off season or training camp and it showed during the season. He was still good, but he did not play up to his normal high level. They were still a good team. Just not as good as they normally are.

The 13-3 Titans team was an illusion. They are not a bad team, but they are not a 13-3 team, either. The schedule sometimes works out that way.

 

[Gadfly22]

Why? I mean what has Fischer won? How long has he been there?

I guess you would have fired Landry back in 1970.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hey, we agree on something! :laugh2:

Coaches, especially veteran ones, tend to resist lineup changes too much. Tennessee was going nowhere and Collins had lost whatever he had. I never understood how Fisher couldn't see that. His senile, old boss could even see it.

Of course we agree sometimes. I respect you I just don't always agree with you but there are times we do. :laugh2:

 

[wileedog]

He aslo coached a team that was 13-3 last year to 0-6.

Hi QB fell off a cliff and he didn't trust the other one.

If Romo played like Collins did we wouldn't be sitting here either.

 

[Monster Heel]

Hi QB fell off a cliff and he didn't trust the other one.

If Romo played like Collins did we wouldn't be sitting here either.

There was more to their collapse than Collins, their defensive coordinator wasn't any great shakes for instance, but Fisher played his part by playing Collins as long as he did.

 

[Doomsday101]

Hi QB fell off a cliff and he didn't trust the other one.

If Romo played like Collins did we wouldn't be sitting here either.

Why? Young was 10-6 the year before he was benched. I agree Young had some issues but they were able to win with him. Given how poorly Collins was playing and the fact Collins was not the future of Tenn to begin with why not change? Bledsoe played that way that is why he was replaced

 

[Zaxor]

I guess you would have fired Landry back in 1970.

Had Landry only 6 winning seasons in 16 years and never won a Superbowl... You can bet your :moon: I would have fired him.

Just for your info Landry had already been in 3 superbowls in 16 years...70,71,75 and on the cusp of going a couple of more times...VERY, VERY different...plus the innovations Landry brought to the game...

Fisher is no Tom Landry

 

[wileedog]

Why? Young was 10-6 the year before he was benched. I agree Young had some issues but they were able to win with him.

I think after the breakdown he simply didn't trust that he was going to do anything different. Collins at least had played at a higher level in this league at one point, maybe Fisher thought there was a better chance of getting him on track than Young suddenly being a good QB.

He still wasn't all that great this year, just less bad than Collins and the schedule got better.

In hindsight maybe it wasn't the best call, but even great coaches make mistakes, its no reason to damn a very good career.

 

[DFWJC]

Didn't the Titans start out 0-6? It would be nuts for Tennessee to allow him to walk after an 8-8 finish.

The expectation were VERY high after the 13-3 last year. Collins started poorly and the Titans had some very tough early games...then the NE fiasco and time for VY. The bye week after wk 6 was the perfect time to make the move with VY having time to get ready, the scedule getting way easier, and sveral injured players returning. But keep in mind, the 1st 6 games were against teams who made the playoffs or were in until wk 17...things got much easier after that and they also fully committed to CJ.

BTW, CJ gave all of the offensive lineman Rolex's.

Anyway, Tennessee is very lucky to have Jeff Fisher, regardless of how last season went.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think after the breakdown he simply didn't trust that he was going to do anything different. Collins at least had played at a higher level in this league at one point, maybe Fisher thought there was a better chance of getting him on track than Young suddenly being a good QB.

He still wasn't all that great this year, just less bad than Collins and the schedule got better.

In hindsight maybe it wasn't the best call, but even great coaches make mistakes, its no reason to damn a very good career.

Fisher has had 1 big year as HC outside of that not so much. Collins is an old QB he was not going to be the future of Tenn he is a QB who is was playing his 16th season in the league and his best season as a QB was in 2002 with NY where he had his career high 85.4 QB rating. I do agree it is easy to 2nd guess after the fact but we are not talking about replacing a once great QB collins has had his moments but has been nothing more than an avg QB

 

[DFWJC]

I thought the Titans 2008 schedule was pretty weak. They faced a lot of bad teams or teams in transition. Look at the Colts. Prior to the start of last season Peyton Manning didn't get to work out in the off season or training camp and it showed during the season. He was still good, but he did not play up to his normal high level. They were still a good team. Just not as good as they normally are.

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Did I just read this right....you are using the COLTS as an example of their schedule being easier? :bang2: How off can someone be...wow.

Also, I just looked at their schedule. 13 of their 16 games were against playoff teams or teams vying for a spot the last game of the season.

 

[DFWJC]

Why? I mean what has Fischer won? How long has he been there?

A little bit like Cowher before he finally won one.

One disadvantage for all of the AFC South teams trying to win a divsion is that they had the NFL's winningest franchise of the last decade in there with them.

 

[Zaxor]

A little bit like Cowher before he finally won one.

One disadvantage for all of the AFC South teams trying to win a divsion is that they had the NFL's winningest franchise of the last decade in there with them.

While that is true you have to beat the best to be the best just as Dallas had done when they beat SF to go to the SB...

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Didn't the Titans start out 0-6? It would be nuts for Tennessee to allow him to walk after an 8-8 finish.

I don't think so.

I'm not all that impressed with Fisher. I think he's a steady, but not a great coach.

They started out 0-6 because Fisher had VY in his doghouse and wouldn't let him get out of it until Adams, who has never been a 'football guy' and is up there in age, forced him to start VY.

That's why I believe an owner has to be involved to some degree with the football team and know what they are doing. Sure, Jerry is more involved than just about every owner, but having an owner who has zero involvement seems equally dangerous because sometimes a HC or a GM needs to have a different perspective or be told differently because they are not always right, no matter how good of a HC they are.





YAKUZA

 

[BAT]

People soon forget that the 2009 Titans (like the 2008 Cowboys) were the SB favorites this season, coming off a 13-3 season.

Fisher underachieved a heckuva lot more than Wade did. Fisher is overrated, glad he is not an option.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I like Jeff Fisher but I didn't think he'd ever be a real option here in the first place.

He's not my first pick, or my favorite, but I certainly wouldn't have hated having him.