Burger King- Thinks Cowboys will cut TO

SultanOfSix;2589665 said:
The point is for those who don't think TO is the primary problem, is the team should concentrate on fixing the bigger problems first. Then they should see if the lesser of the problems (TO) is still a problem. If so, then get rid of it. If not, then it's been solved.

The fact is, most people in the debate on the side of TO should leave, focus on TO as the primary problem, and that itself is questionable. If the team gets rid of him, the major problem is gone, and so the other issues will be solved. One player can never destroy a team despite what the media says. Never. They can only be problematic if things aren't working, which means there are bigger issues. All of the rumblings of him being a divisor of the team (this year), have come from Ed Werder and others citing "anonymous sources". That is disingenous.

No, it's not all or none. It's take care of the major problems and then address the smaller ones. And the anonymous sources thing is so overdone by those who want TO here. NO player is going to put his name in print and say "he's a problem and needs to go." Absolutely nothing is gained from that.

Reporters have their contacts and sources and lots of news is gained that way and always has been. It's only a problem when the news runs in opposition to what the reader desires. In this case, that TO is a locker room distraction and divisive factor.
 
Bleu Star;2589760 said:
I think it is and also believe it's rooted from day one. So once again my opinion differs from someone else. Oh where o where do we go from here. :rolleyes:

If it were a Sunday during the fall, I'd suggest a sports bar to watch the Cowboys. Since it's the off-season, we'll just have to wait a few months.
 
khiladi;2589671 said:
How doers anyone know what receiver Tony Romo is locked on when the helmet is covering his eyes and head? And if receiver's were open all the time, what the hell was Garrett telling Tony Romo on the sidelines everytime Romo allegedly threw and INT, because he was trying to force the ball to Owens? They were looking at the actual game-shots, one-by-one. The excuses made for Garrett are flat-out ridiculous.

How about when coming to the line of scrimmage Romo never even looks the way of the other receiver who is uncovered?
 
shaketiller;2589766 said:
If it were a Sunday during the fall, I'd suggest a sports bar to watch the Cowboys. Since it's the off-season, we'll just have to wait a few months.

Until then, it's the TO zone! (where post count padding happens)
 
Bleu Star;2589769 said:
Until then, it's the TO zone! (where post count padding happens)

As you might notice by my date of entry and my dismal post count, I'm more the slow but steady type.
 
T.O. isn't going anywhere.:moon:



&& Romo forces balls to the white boy too, it's not just T.O.

It's all on Romo or maybe that's just Garrets gameplan.:rolleyes:
 
shaketiller;2589772 said:
As you might notice by my date of entry and my dismal post count, I'm more the slow but steady type.

That's cool. You are but one of many.
 
Bleu Star;2589752 said:
Oh. So you and I both have opposing opinions. Wonderfully anticlimactic...

Well here is my reasoning, what is yours? I would like to better understand your viewpoint....

On TO:

TO is a great athlete who draws double coverage from opposing defenses

TO can cause problems in a locker room

TO has been with two other franchises and had major issues with both

TO is 35 years old and not getting younger, he does what he does and won't get better at it.

TO drops a lot of passes, mostly ones we really need him to catch

TO makes some great catches also

TO pouts

TO stops running routes sometimes and often does not fight for passes not throw perfectly

TO went on Primetime TV wearing an EAGLES colored shirt to call out our coaching staff.

On Garrett:

Garrett is a 41 year old coach that can still grow in his job.

Garrett is a former Cowboys QB so I believe in his loyalty.

Garrett as OC has ranked our offenses 3rd and 13th in his first two seasons, not amazing but still not worthy of saying he sucks yet.

Garrett did not do well with offensive adjustments this year

Garrett had to deal with key injuries this year and made a poor decision regarding his back up QB.

Garrett has never gone on public TV to call out any of his players for their lazyness or poor play which is totally obvious to any objective fan.

Garrett is well respected by other organizations and coaches
 
khiladi;2589759 said:
So Tony Romo willfully ignored Garrett's 'tutorship' on the sidelines, when they were analyzing game-shots of all the 'open WRs' other than TO? Amazing logic...

I dont think he ignores it, but it is an issue when he decides where to go with the ball. It's in the back of his head "TO has to get the ball"..."TO has to get his chances"...I know Romo isnt stupid, he makes too many throws to Owens when there is no chance for him to catch it, there's only one reason why the guy would repeatedly try and do that.

And its not always WR's who are open. Alot of times its the RB's or TE's underneath, and on several of the ints he threw this yr those guys were even in Romo's line of sight, and he still tried to force it to TO.
 
stiletto;2589775 said:
Well here is my reasoning, what is yours? I would like to better understand your viewpoint....

On TO:

TO is a great athlete who draws double coverage from opposing defenses

TO can cause problems in a locker room

TO has been with two other franchises and had major issues with both

TO is 35 years old and not getting younger, he does what he does and won't get better at it.

TO drops a lot of passes, mostly ones we really need him to catch

TO makes some great catches also

TO stops running routes sometimes and often does not fight for passes not throw perfectly

TO went on Primetime TV wearing an EAGLES colored shirt to call out our coaching staff.

On Garrett:

Garrett is a 41 year old coach that can still grow in his job.

Garrett is a former Cowboys QB so I believe in his loyalty.

Garrett as OC has ranked our offenses 3rd and 13th.

Garrett did not do well with offensive adjustments this year

Garrett had to deal with key injuries this year and made a poor decision regarding his back up QB.

Garrett has never gone on public TV to call out any of his players for their lazyness or poor play which is totally obvious to any objective fan.

Garrett is well respected by other organizations and coaches

:hammer:

Excellent post, couldnt agree more.
 
Cali'sFinest;2589773 said:
T.O. isn't going anywhere.:moon:
Terrell Owens isn't going anywhere yet. ;)

As with all players, it's inevitable. "All good things..." :)
 
stiletto;2589775 said:
Well here is my reasoning, what is yours? I would like to better understand your viewpoint....

On TO:

TO is a great athlete who draws double coverage from opposing defenses

TO can cause problems in a locker room

TO has been with two other franchises and had major issues with both

TO is 35 years old and not getting younger, he does what he does and won't get better at it.

TO drops a lot of passes, mostly ones we really need him to catch

TO makes some great catches also

TO stops running routes sometimes and often does not fight for passes not throw perfectly

TO went on Primetime TV wearing an EAGLES colored shirt to call out our coaching staff.

On Garrett:

Garrett is a 41 year old coach that can still grow in his job.

Garrett is a former Cowboys QB so I believe in his loyalty.

Garrett as OC has ranked our offenses 3rd and 13th.

Garrett did not do well with offensive adjustments this year

Garrett had to deal with key injuries this year and made a poor decision regarding his back up QB.

Garrett has never gone on public TV to call out any of his players for their lazyness or poor play which is totally obvious to any objective fan.

Garrett is well respected by other organizations and coaches

That all works for those that like to type type type. I do enough of that at work. At home, not so much. Stick around. You'll understand my viewpoint eventually.
 
Bleu Star;2589781 said:
That all works for those that like to type type type. I do enough of that at work. At home, not so much. Stick around. You'll understand my viewpoint eventually.


LOL

what?
 
theebs;2589786 said:
LOL

what?
His viewpoint is that he is okay with Owens leaving if it doesn't impair the success of the team BUT until he's gone, quit messin' with his favorite player.
 
DallasEast;2589790 said:
His viewpoint is that he is okay with Owens leaving if it doesn't impair the success of the team BUT until he's gone, quit messin' with his favorite player.

Close.

For the record, my favorite player is Tashard Choice.
 
My concerns about Owens have less to do with Romo forcing him the ball -- which I believe he does -- as with the dropped passes, the poor routes, the missed adjustments, the half-hearted effort on some passes, and most of all... the clubhouse lawyering. Romo must be tough enough to resist the pressure to force the ball to Owens.

On the other hand, if Romo doesn't look toward Owens early and reasonably often, you are very likely to get half-hearted routes and missed adjustments. So I do understand why he feels the need. If playing quarterback were as simple as we make it, there wouldn't be a premium on the position.
 
Bleu Star;2589791 said:
Close.

For the record, my favorite player is Tashard Choice.
If that's the case, I'm glad that Choice doesn't read this forum. Otherwise, he might feel that you have devoted the vast majority of your posting attention to another player. Thankfully, he is a strong-minded individual who won't run off to find Deion Sanders in retaliation...

Just kidding. ;) :)
 
shaketiller;2589798 said:
My concerns about Owens have less to do with Romo forcing him the ball -- which I believe he does -- as with the dropped passes, the poor routes, the missed adjustments, the half-hearted effort on some passes, and most of all... the clubhouse lawyering. Romo must be tough enough to resist the pressure to force the ball to Owens.

On the other hand, if Romo doesn't look toward Owens early and reasonably often, you are very likely to get half-hearted routes and missed adjustments. So I do understand why he feels the need. If playing quarterback were as simple as we make it, there wouldn't be a premium on the position.

So when does the possibility that Romo lacks leadership qualities enter into the discussion? I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
 
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