Byron Jones Videos

[ufcrules1]

When I heard our idiot owner say cornerback was the one area they felt they weren't okay with leaving the draft without a significant addition I called it a night.

They still don't know what they don't know.

I knew we were going RB too. Jerry just runs his mouth and doesn't hide anything. I'm not impressed with Byron but maybe he will surprise us and turn out ok.

 

[ufcrules1]

Unfortunately Carr and Scandrick have forced them into this position. Corners have become very expensive in free agency and the Jones do not like having Carr tell them he won't take a pay cut. Carr has them by the short hairs and there isn't much they can do about it. I don't have strong feelings either way about Byron Jones. I saw this coming when Jones said they needed secondary help in the draft.

I will take the wait and see approach. I didn't want them committing a 1st round pick to an edge rusher because I believe they will sign Hardy long term and they believe in Demarcus Lawrence.

But I won't be too happy if we open the season with Darren McFadden and the group of underachievers carrying the ball.

I would say the Cowboys put themselves in this position.. Carr and Scandrick didn't put them in the position.

 

[superonyx]

I would say the Cowboys put themselves in this position.. Carr and Scandrick didn't put them in the position.

No team will have a roster without some holes or unhappy players over money. Scandrick has a contract he was happy to sign. They did nothing wrong with Scandrick. As much as everyone doesn't want to admit it, Mo Claiborne was considered a can't miss CB coming out. He was the best cover corner prospect since Dion Sanders per most scouts. So you can blame the FO for having to draft another corner/safety but I will give them a pass because no team, draft, free agent signing will ever be perfect.

 

[Risen Star]

That statement is not necessarily wrong if that is an exact quote. Yes, they needed a significant addition from this draft since there is practically nothing to pair with Scandrick.

What was the exact quote? If he meant he was not okay leaving the first round without one, then that is a frightening comment.

History will tell you that first round CBs have a fairly high bust ratio. Some of the best in the game were found later in the draft as teams often draft physical attributes over instincts and scheme fit at that position.

Well, I'm not going to go back and listen to that stammering, lip smacking abortion again to get it word for word but he said, looking at the roster, they felt they would be okay at RB and DE if they didn't do anything in the draft at those positions. CB is the one position they didn't feel they'd be okay without a draft addition. They were extremely lucky to have good health there last year. (Apparently besides Claiborne). He never mentioned 1st round specifically.

Stephen nodded while slurping his soda. If looking creepy is Ginger for I agree, Garrett was on board too.

That was just, like, the last thing I wanted to hear from our front office.

 

[Risen Star]

No team will have a roster without some holes or unhappy players over money. Scandrick has a contract he was happy to sign. They did nothing wrong with Scandrick. As much as everyone doesn't want to admit it, Mo Claiborne was considered a can't miss CB coming out. He was the best cover corner prospect since Dion Sanders per most scouts. So you can blame the FO for having to draft another corner/safety but I will give them a pass because no team, draft, free agent signing will ever be perfect.

Ah, the old other people liked the player too so I place no blame in our decision makers defense.

Because we all know...at the end of the day, it's not about making the right or wrong decision but the popular one.

 

[superonyx]

Ah, the old other people liked the player too so I place no blame in our decision makers defense.

Because we all know...at the end of the day, it's not about making the right or wrong decision but the popular one.

Ah the old 20/20 hindsight. Because at the end of the day if there is any imperfection in an imperfect process then you need to point out how idiotic they are.

The life of an Internet message board critic.

 

[Risen Star]

Ah the old 20/20 hindsight. Because at the end of the day if there is any imperfection in an imperfect process then you need to point out how idiotic they are.

The life of an Internet message board critic.

Ah the old 20/20 hindsight. Because at the end of the day if there is any imperfection in an imperfect process then you need to point out how idiotic they are.

The life of an Internet message board critic.

Yes, it's 20/20 hindsight in the sense that I hated the trade up and pick and said so immediately as a "troll" and now the people that were wrong about it want to lump me in with them so they feel better about themselves.

Just like that.

 

[khiladi]

"Workout Warrior" is over-rated and usually means nothing other than the guy likes to spend his time in the gym. Laron Landry spends his whole life in the gym and absolutely blows. It can also increase the chance of injury and lead to over-training.

Everything has it's place.

 

[khiladi]

Carr also did well against Megatron. Carr is better than he is given credit for. We had a bad defensive line last year making his job very hard. Moore isn't Carr/ Scandrick he is our 3rd corner.

Don't forget our tremendous safety play, especially two years ago when Carr left his man to the zone coverage and Wilcox and Church were moonwalking who knows where..

 

[Clarkson]

Yes, it's 20/20 hindsight in the sense that I hated the trade up and pick and said so immediately as a "troll" and now the people that were wrong about it want to lump me in with them so they feel better about themselves.

Just like that.

OH MY GOD you may have been right once! therefore you must be right again!

 

[khiladi]

Was impressive against Michigan who was ranked 15. Still late driving deep in cover 3 but demonstrated impressive strength holding off the WR block with one arm to take down the ball carrier for no gain on third and short on a bang bang play. Ran down an end around. in the backfield. Baited the QB into a throw and then used his catchup speed and beat the WR to the catch. His ball skills in man are impressive. WR to this point cannot block him and he is a strong tackler at corner.

In what little I saw, he flew in that end around your talking about.

 

[ufcrules1]

No team will have a roster without some holes or unhappy players over money. Scandrick has a contract he was happy to sign. They did nothing wrong with Scandrick. As much as everyone doesn't want to admit it, Mo Claiborne was considered a can't miss CB coming out. He was the best cover corner prospect since Dion Sanders per most scouts. So you can blame the FO for having to draft another corner/safety but I will give them a pass because no team, draft, free agent signing will ever be perfect.

Claiborne was a last minute decision and they didn't know squat about him. Didn't bring him in before the draft and literally called his coach to get info on him during the draft. They put us in a bad position.

 

[superonyx]

Yes, it's 20/20 hindsight in the sense that I hated the trade up and pick and said so immediately as a "troll" and now the people that were wrong about it want to lump me in with them so they feel better about themselves.

Just like that.

So who should they have drafted?

I see you have been carrying this pain and frustration for a few years over your prediction of Claiborne not being any good. I will leave that one alone. Just don't agree that the Cowboys having to fill a hole or not making every decision perfect justifies them being idiots. Every team has multiple holes. That's just the nature of this sport and salary caps.

 

[superonyx]

Claiborne was a last minute decision and they didn't know squat about him. Didn't bring him in before the draft and literally called his coach to get info on him during the draft. They put us in a bad position.

How could you know this? So the many many scouts that had Claiborne ranked as the best corner in the draft were all last minute scouts that didn't know squat about him? Maybe every draft has an element of risk. Look back at any team and look at their last 5 years of 1st round picks....you will find a bust or several bust for each team....so I guess they are guilty of not being perfect. I give them credit for admitting it.

 

[Risen Star]

So who should they have drafted?

I see you have been carrying this pain and frustration for a few years over your prediction of Claiborne not being any good. I will leave that one alone. Just don't agree that the Cowboys having to fill a hole or not making every decision perfect justifies them being idiots. Every team has multiple holes. That's just the nature of this sport and salary caps.

Moving up to 6? Fletcher Cox.

Staying at 14? The guy they supposedly would have taken if they didn't move up. Michael Brockers.

 

[superonyx]

Moving up to 6? Fletcher Cox.

Staying at 14? The guy they supposedly would have taken if they didn't move up. Michael Brockers.

Last night I meant. Sorry. Anyone in that draft would have worked out better than Mo..haha.

 

[Risen Star]

Last night I meant. Sorry. Anyone in that draft would have worked out better than Mo..haha.

Malcom Brown.

 

[CyberB0b]

You know I have to revisit this because in the first video the ECU QB threw downfield a lot with decent touch. The first 3 throws were downfield. Also he was in press man all game long on an island. He gives up two completions on comebacks when the QB had all day for about 20 yards on 8 targets and an interception.

He is inconsistent in his stance but reps will polish that. He has good eye discipline, can turn his hips and stay on the hip pocket easily. He cuts off and dominates inside routes. Physical wrap up tackler.

You haven't even watched the videos have you or are you going to tell me that you watched them and what you got from it was that post? You have a pet cat you didn't get or something?

Let's look at the plays Jones was involved in.



:30 Jones is beaten off screen on a comeback route. Would have been a bigger gain if the QB releases the ball earlier.
:45 Jones is about to get beaten on the inside slant, but the pass is tipped. I like how Jones tackled him after the tip. Good awareness.
1:15 Jones is beaten downfield, but the QB overthrows the WR. Jones got away with a PI because the ball was overthrown so badly.
2:06 Jones never turns his head around. This is PI in the NFL.
2:25 This is a completion if the QB and WR execute. Hard to tell if the ball was on target or not because it's a youtube video.
3:34 He stays with his man for a full 5 seconds, which is impressive, but you notice, he has his hand grabbing the guy's waist at all times. This is defensive holding in the NFL. Seriously, he held his jersey for a full 5 seconds and then pushes off and intercepts a terrible prayer of a pass.
4:05 Beaten on a comeback again, but you can't see what is happening.

I stand by what I said earlier. He was facing sub par talent at the WR and the QB position. Nothing like what he will see at the pro level. He grabs receivers well past 5 yards, and has a tendency to get more grabby when he's beaten. He is relying on grabbing the WR to stay in position, and doesn't play well when he has space in front of him.

I think the two comeback routes that he was beaten on are due more to the scheme and not wanting to get beat, but you can't really tell because you can't see what is happening off screen.

I don't have a pet cat, and I don't mind the pick, but I see him as a big project in the NFL. He is an insane athlete, and if they can coach a little NFL technique into him, I can see him as a solid player.

 

[SDCowboy]

I'm absolutely excited about this pick. I really wanted Gordon, but I'm more than fine with this pick.

 

[DeaconMoss]

Any games against real teams?

That ecu film is good. Hardy and Carden lit the scoreboard up all season. He played well against Hardy thats a good sign.