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[NorthwestDallas40]

Bowser. I think Watt will be gone.

 

[Bocephus]

I think that either Barnett is there and we pick him or we trade back and get Takkarist McKinley

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I absolutely hate, hate, hate that we can seemingly disqualify good players because they don't "fit" our scheme. It would be one thing if that scheme was tried and true and won a lot of football games. But that is not the case. It just comes across as stubborn and shiftless. It is not the same as taking talent, figuring out what they do best and then capitalizing on it. We look for prototypes and look for the right size peg to fit the hole. Sometimes the problem might be the hole to begin with.

I disagree. Either you believe in your system or you don't. I like that we aren't throwing darts in the wind hoping it comes together. The Patriots are the model for drafting to a system and finding the right fit.

 

[Alexander]

I disagree. Either you believe in your system or you don't. I like that we aren't throwing darts in the wind hoping it comes together. The Patriots are the model for drafting to a system and finding the right fit.

That last comment tells me you don't have any idea what you are talking about. The Patriots are the shining example, but it is no secret that Belichick is not afraid of changing his philosophies from year to year and even game to game. If they had a "system", they would not have switched from a 3-4 to 4-3 and back several times over the years. They would not have gone from a ground based attack early in Belichick's career to what amounts to a spread now. They re-invent themselves from year to year. We believe in a set of systems that has not won anything of significance for a very long time.

 

[Aven8]

I think most of the pass rushers will be gone. Like they always do. However the league has been pro offense lately so who knows with WR'S going early and often the past few years. I know it's unsexy pick 28 but DB is just boring to me! We found a stud in Brown in the 6th last year. We couldn't expect a 28th pick to be better than he was.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

That last comment tells me you don't have any idea what you are talking about. The Patriots are the shining example, but it is no secret that Belichick is not afraid of changing his philosophies from year to year and even game to game. If they had a "system", they would not have switched from a 3-4 to 4-3 and back several times over the years. They would not have gone from a ground based attack early in Belichick's career to what amounts to a spread now. They re-invent themselves from year to year. We believe in a set of systems that has not won anything of significance for a very long time.

That you haven't seen a difference the past 3-4 years shows you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Stash]

I see it being between Adoree and Watt most likely. I think they have a preference for pass rushers I think they go Watt and draft Tankersley in the 2nd.

I could see Jackson at 28 with McKinley at 60 as well. Takk could be a big faller if he may start on PUP

You are so stealing my answers!

 

[Alexander]

That you haven't seen a difference the past 3-4 years shows you don't know what you're talking about.

A difference with whom? Dallas? Or what you claim Dallas is acting like, New England?

The Patriots don't have profiles and prototypes they stick to year after year after year. Meanwhile Dallas is drafting the same kind of player, looking for the same kind of physical prototype. That does not mean they are doing anything close to what the Patriots did and have done.

You can have all the faith in the world that they are sticking with something they have done repeatedly for the last four years. Does not mean it has worked or even is working at all. You are just hoping it is. Continuity is nice as a concept but it is only relevant and good if it pays off. Otherwise, we are like the Bengals have been the last few years. They have not been bad, just consistently mediocre. And it has been going on for a while.

We still do not show a willingness to break profiles or prototypes. I can literally look down a laundry list of players and tell you the ones we won't want.

Oh, too short. Dang it.

Whoops. He has short arms.

Wait a second, he went to the wrong school.

 

[Gaede]

I think that either Barnett is there and we pick him or we trade back and get Takkarist McKinley

My feeling exactly.

I think this draft is going to surprise a lot of ppl, with the lack of elite top talent.

Barnett falls as teams pick the player that fits their scheme.

And voila, Jason Witten pt 2 falls into our lap and we win the draft

 

[reddyuta]

Watt or Jackson if we stay ar 28.

 

[TheDuke]

I think the 3 most likely picks are Kevin King, Charles Harris, or Marlon Humphrey.

I don't hate it and I don't love it. Generally I think they can get a good player but I doubt they get a great player.

I think the only pick that I will love at #28 is if Barnett miraculously drops to us.

 

[Floatyworm]

1/28. Rivers
2/60. Conley (he's gonna fall)
3/92. Eddie Jackson
4/133. Adam Bisnowaty RT Pittsburgh

 

[Idgit]

McDowell is a real option at 28 IMO. Top 10, maybe even 5 talent but will slip. Dont think if they pass on that talent level at 28.

Like Gregory in 2015 he was a late visit. Could be like Gregory they didnt think they had a chance

He's got the talent. I just think we're pretty conservative in the first round these days. He doesn't feel like a Dallas pick to me if it's the first pick off the board.

 

[ccb04]

Absolutely nothing concrete since it hasnt come from the club, but the Draft Show guys dont think Barnett is a RDE fit here.

Maybe be somewhat valid, but there is interest enough from the club for him to be a 30

As you mentioned, there's interest with him being among the 30 visits. I personally don't buy the 'fit' BS in some instances. He played against SEC LT's for the majority of his career as far as I know, and proceeded to break Reggie White's sack record.

In addition, as I saw discussed in another thread...I don't necessarily care where the pressure comes from. If Barnett turned into an upper-tier LDE, with Lawrence & Mayowa rotating on the right side in 2017, that would be ok w/ me. Then hopefully, it would be Gregory & Mayowa opposite Barnett in 2018...with Lawrence gone. There of course have been some dominant left ends...not to mention guys like Von Miller & Justin Houston that most often rush from the left side. Danielle Hunter had 12.5 sacks last year and if IIRC, he saw a good deal of time on the left side opposite Everson Griffen...and he's likely to eventually replace Robinson full-time opposite Griffen. Barnett could see time on both sides.

If Barnett is there, I take him...and the draft always seems to hold some surprises. Thing is, it would seem unlikely he makes it to #28.

 

[JBell]

Depends on what unfolds before us in the first 27 picks. Or if a team offers up a boatload to trade up to 28.

I think we go edge at 28. TJ Watt or Tyus Bowser, then grab a CB at 60. If they're both gone, I think we go Awuzie. Then pray Tarell Basham falls to 60.

 

[gmoney112]

Draft Show guys don't think Barnett is a RDE. Lol. Idiots. Just confirms the reason I don't watch/listen to them.

It's going to be Barnett, Harris/McKinley, Jackson, Watt probably in that order for the 1st round pick. I'd have said Conley too but I'm just leaving him out for the time being.

 

[Idgit]

I disagree. Either you believe in your system or you don't. I like that we aren't throwing darts in the wind hoping it comes together. The Patriots are the model for drafting to a system and finding the right fit.

He's generalizing from something Broaddus said, not based off of anything the team has actually said or done. See a lot of physical similarities between Dak and Tony, for example? Me either.

We do a pretty good job drafting overall these days. If Alex doesn't like the way we go about it, the rest of us will probably learn to live with it somehow. We'll just add it to the list of things he hates hates hates about the team and try somehow to struggle forward.

 

[Idgit]

Draft Show guys don't think Barnett is a RDE. Lol. Idiots. Just confirms the reason I don't watch/listen to them.

It's going to be Barnett, Harris/McKinley, Jackson, Watt probably in that order for the 1st round pick. I'd have said Conley too but I'm just leaving him out for the time being.

Did Brugler agree on Barnett? Or was it something Broaddus said in between bites of his ham sandwich again?

 

[gmoney112]

Did Brugler agree on Barnett? Or was it something Broaddus said in between bites of his ham sandwich again?

Dunno. I was just going off what mr D. Seinfeld said up above.

Reports are that Broaddus chewed through his own thumb eating his sandwich. Didn't even notice.

 

[JBell]

Draft Show guys don't think Barnett is a RDE. Lol. Idiots. Just confirms the reason I don't watch/listen to them.

It's going to be Barnett, Harris/McKinley, Jackson, Watt probably in that order for the 1st round pick. I'd have said Conley too but I'm just leaving him out for the time being.

Do you have a link? Interested in what they have to say, assuming it's the same group of Broaddus, Cavanaugh and Brugler