callahan named offensive coordinator

iceberg;4374603 said:
it's much easier to put the blame in a singular place than it is to understand the whole.
Hence why I often say, learn the game.
 
iceberg;4374603 said:
it's much easier to put the blame in a singular place than it is to understand the whole.

True but at the end of the day the HC will be the man left to take the blame. I can't say I disagree with that. Jason is the HC he has choosen Ryan as his DC and now has choosen Callahan as his OC. If we have success I think Jason will be given a lot of credit for getting this team back on top and if they fail it will fall in his lap not those who work under him.
 
Doomsday101;4374612 said:
True but at the end of the day the HC will be the man left to take the blame. I can't say I disagree with that. Jason is the HC he has choosen Ryan as his DC and now has choosen Callahan as his OC. If we have success I think Jason will be given a lot of credit for getting this team back on top and if they fail it will fall in his lap not those who work under him.
That is how it should be.
 
Risen Star;4373777 said:
People wanted another influence on offense. I don't know why, but that was the theme.

Here you go. Bill Callahan. Enjoy. I'm not a big fan. As an OL coach, sure. As a guy designing my offense? Not really.

So we get some West Coast (Bill Walsh) influence in the play calling. I actually think this might help Murray and Witten.
 
Hostile;4374616 said:
That is how it should be.

Of course. Difference is how one reacts to disappointment or failure. I think Garrett made mistakes but my reaction is not "He has to go or we will never win as long as he is here"

My feeling tends to be ok what can we do, what can Garrett do to correct things. His hiring of Callahan may end up being a big difference to Garrett and this team.

Callahan clearly will have a different view and mindset than Houck and evidently more say in terms of what we want to do on the offense.
How will this all play out, I don't know but I'm not going to dismiss this as something that has no chance.
 
JackWagon;4374626 said:
So we get some West Coast (Bill Walsh) influence in the play calling. I actually think this might help Murray and Witten.

We have a bit even before Callahan, when we hired Assistant HC/WR coach Jimmy Robinson
 
UVAwahoos;4373768 said:
Does this guy ever saying anything football related or does he just complain and whine about other posters? Serious question.

Pot meet kettle
 
WoodysGirl;4373869 said:
That's interesting.. Maybe he'll have more influence in gameplanning than we thought. Maybe the Cowboys offered him a chance to offer a lot more input than what he was getting in NY.

Here are a couple of ideas that have me cautiously excited:
1. Another guy with play-calling exp on the team - that's a plus no matter how you slice it.

2. Callahan knows the WCO; Maybe, just maybe we adopt a few of those principals. The short passing game. Against a blitzing team, that would be great. Not hot routes in the true WCO. Someone goes short, someone is intermediate and someone goes long; thus the responsibility is on the QB to make the read - not the WR. If you have a good QB that can read def and identify the blitzer - you can beat the blitz.

3. Callahan will have influence in the game plan. Again, this can only be good because it offers a check & balance system. Two guys with playing calling exp putting the plan together is much better than one.

4. If nothing else, Callahan will take some of the game management pressure off Garrett. One will call plays while the other can focus on game management. Even if its just having Callahan remind Garrett that he has 2 TO's left or just having an extra guy with exp offering up a tid bit of info - either way I'm not sure how anyone can say its a bad thing.

I'm most excited about #2. Adding some WCO plays to our repertoire of plays. All three of our WR would be great WCO WR. They all have great RAC ability.

Again, this is the GB and NO model. Both HC coach calls the play but they have an OC to put the plan together.
 
Dough Boy;4374633 said:
Here are a couple of ideas that have me cautiously excited:
1. Another guy with play-calling exp on the team - that's a plus no matter how you slice it.

2. Callahan knows the WCO; Maybe, just maybe we adopt a few of those principals. The short passing game. Against a blitzing team, that would be great. Not hot routes in the true WCO. Someone goes short, someone is intermediate and someone goes long; thus the responsibility is on the QB to make the read - not the WR. If you have a good QB that can read def and identify the blitzer - you can beat the blitz.

3. Callahan will have influence in the game plan. Again, this can only be good because it offers a check & balance system. Two guys with playing calling exp putting the plan together is much better than one.

4. If nothing else, Callahan will take some of the game management pressure off Garrett. One will call plays while the other can focus on game management. Even if its just having Callahan remind Garrett that he has 2 TO's left or just having an extra guy with exp offering up a tid bit of info - either way I'm not sure how anyone can say its a bad thing.

I'm most excited about #2. Adding some WCO plays to our repertoire of plays. All three of our WR would be great WCO WR. They all have great RAC ability.

Again, this is the GB and NO model. Both HC coach calls the play but they have an OC to put the plan together.
Just an all around great football post.
 
dstew60105;4373923 said:
Not so sure of all the Garrett play calling hate. It's not like the Cowboys were not one of the top offensive teams in the NFL. People need to get a grip.


We were 15th in points scored for the season, hardly a "top offense".


Also, we were, and have been for awhile, one of the worst red zone offenses in the entire NFL. We had a total of 4 rushing TDs for the season, that is the lowest in the 51 year history of the franchise.

I really have no idea where this perception that Garrett is an offensive genius comes from, the numbers just dont support it. When almost half the teams in the league score more points than you do and your QB had the 30th best rating in the history of the league, your offense has serious problems!!!!
 
Hostile;4374581 said:
Garrett's play calling was influenced by John Garrett, Wes Phillips, Hudson Houck, Skip Peete, Jimmy Robinson, Wade Wilson, and Keith O'Quinn.

Do people really not realize that this is a team? It isn't about one man's ego. It never is, on any team.

Josh McDaniels. Denver.



Decimated that team.
 
Hostile;4374581 said:
Garrett's play calling was influenced by John Garrett, Wes Phillips, Hudson Houck, Skip Peete, Jimmy Robinson, Wade Wilson, and Keith O'Quinn.


None of those names are really exciting to me. It could be the reason that JG looks like he is doing the heavy lifting on game planning and play calling during games.
 
Dough Boy;4374633 said:
Here are a couple of ideas that have me cautiously excited:
1. Another guy with play-calling exp on the team - that's a plus no matter how you slice it.

2. Callahan knows the WCO; Maybe, just maybe we adopt a few of those principals. The short passing game. Against a blitzing team, that would be great. Not hot routes in the true WCO. Someone goes short, someone is intermediate and someone goes long; thus the responsibility is on the QB to make the read - not the WR. If you have a good QB that can read def and identify the blitzer - you can beat the blitz.

3. Callahan will have influence in the game plan. Again, this can only be good because it offers a check & balance system. Two guys with playing calling exp putting the plan together is much better than one.

4. If nothing else, Callahan will take some of the game management pressure off Garrett. One will call plays while the other can focus on game management. Even if its just having Callahan remind Garrett that he has 2 TO's left or just having an extra guy with exp offering up a tid bit of info - either way I'm not sure how anyone can say its a bad thing.

I'm most excited about #2. Adding some WCO plays to our repertoire of plays. All three of our WR would be great WCO WR. They all have great RAC ability.

Again, this is the GB and NO model. Both HC coach calls the play but they have an OC to put the plan together.

echo hos - good points. against the giants we took far too long to adjust to the short pass. did it in the 2nd half, but it should have been done sooner.

more experience is a plus. i realize adding callihan doesn't mean jones is gone but that's life.
 
Risen Star;4373777 said:
People wanted another influence on offense. I don't know why, but that was the theme.

Here you go. Bill Callahan. Enjoy. I'm not a big fan. As an OL coach, sure. As a guy designing my offense? Not really.

I agree.

And yeah, that's what people wanted.

I'm thinking that in order for Garrett to do this, however, the philosophy and coaching style for the offense must be very similar.
 
iceberg;4374674 said:
echo hos - good points. against the giants we took far too long to adjust to the short pass. did it in the 2nd half, but it should have been done sooner.

more experience is a plus. i realize adding callihan doesn't mean jones is gone but that's life.

Excellent point and one that I very much agree with.

I think the 'timing' of the passing game in Dallas needs some tweaking - specifically the quick passes.

It seems to me that it was all 'down field or nuthin'.

That changed-up at some points - the Tampa Bay game for one - and then the second half against New York as you mentioned.

I hope to see more of that.
 
he has to help unless he is also a fan of waiting till 1 second left on the play clock EVERY snap and ever popular delayed draw every other snap ...kill kill kill :D
 
UVAwahoos;4373742 said:
How is this better than Sparano then? :confused:


Maybe sparano liked the deal / money with Jets better....
Also Sparano getting another head coaching job is better in NY, as if the Jets decide to dump Ryan in a year or two if things don't get better.
 
stasheroo;4374724 said:
Excellent point and one that I very much agree with.

I think the 'timing' of the passing game in Dallas needs some tweaking - specifically the quick passes.

It seems to me that it was all 'down field or nuthin'.

That changed-up at some points - the Tampa Bay game for one - and then the second half against New York as you mentioned.

I hope to see more of that.

if callihan can help bring more balance, let's give it a shot. but what amazes me is that 2 days ago people would have bet the moon garretts ego would refuse to get help.

so he does.

suddenly it's not enough.

some fans you just can't make happy cause at the top, jones. i've just lost my desire to even try to talk to people on a normal level who just wrap up in hate and go.

you and i have "gone at it" pretty hard in the past but in the end we usually find a solid common ground and that's what i'm usually looking for. when someone ducks and jukes and plays victim, i've learned just to quit playing.
 
jazzcat22;4374732 said:
Maybe sparano liked the deal / money with Jets better....
Also Sparano getting another head coaching job is better in NY, as if the Jets decide to dump Ryan in a year or two if things don't get better.

If sparano can fix that offense then the jets get to the SB. Im betting on the incompetence of Matt Leinart ... oopps i meant Mark "Dirty" Sanchez.
 

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