Campbell compared to Romo

[smarta5150]

Just think how good MB3 would be with an actual offensive line......

As for the Romo/arm strength debate.....I just don't see it. As for dinking and dunking, sure I'll annoint him Rich Gannon Ver 2.0 for that.

He leads the league with an 8.61 Yards Per Attempt.

So wanna make more stuff up or give it up?

 

[streetcredit]

Campbell is crap compared to Romo....even when he has all day to throw to wide open receivers, he can miss....he's closer to Eli Manning

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the one advantage I'll give to Jason, is that his arm looks stronger than ROmo's, but towards physical, athletic ability, that's all Romo

I haven't seen Campbell do anything spectacular, but both are poised

 

[apickmans]

I like both QBs to be honest, although I was getting sick of all the "put Romo in Canton" talk earlier this season. Both are totally different QBs though. Romo has the ability to make something out of nothing but you will see more TO's with him because of that. Hopefully Campbell with an offseason with his WRs will develop more of a chemistry and his accuracy will get better because of it. It sure does look like we've both found our QBs for the future.

 

[Wrangler87]

Ah but did Campbell fumble the ball and give up three additional points like Romo did when it was 36-31?

I like Romo but he has made a ton of mistakes lately.

I love the way people will rip into Romo, then follow up talking about how they like him. You know, just in case he has a big game Saturday.

Fairweather.....

 

[apickmans]

the one advantage I'll give to Jason, is that his arm looks stronger than ROmo's, but towards physical, athletic ability, that's all Romo

I haven't seen Campbell do anything spectacular, but both are poised

I think 2 of Campbell's scrambles against the giants were pretty sweet. One of them looked like he was for sure getting sacked, managed to get away and scramble for the first down. The 2nd one was in the 2nd half Campbell stiff armed a giant defender and ran for at least yards for another first down. I was completely bombed watching the game so it might of made it cooler but still....haha

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It sure does look like we've both found our QBs for the future.

it's looking that way

although Campbell hadn't impressed me, he still did well for a rookie, despite his #s, he looked pretty poised, and didn't seem flustered, despite the #s and wins not being too advantageous, that's what I look at, more than stats, to try and gauge if one has a future or not, same w/ Romo, I looked past the stats, despite them being very good in his 1st 6 or so stats, and saw a poised QB who knew the O, and knew what he needed to be doing, and I see some of that in Campbell, despite his #s being pretty pedestrian

 

[DallasDomination]

Romo by far...He's still pretty raw and if he gets a decent team playing around him He'll do great.

 

[Dale]

Just think how good MB3 would be with an actual offensive line......

As for the Romo/arm strength debate.....I just don't see it. As for dinking and dunking, sure I'll annoint him Rich Gannon Ver 2.0 for that.

Reading your posts is like watching a dog run in a circle to chase its tail.

You laugh, only to feel bad that the poor thing doesn't know any better.

 

[smarta5150]

Reading your posts is like watching a dog run in a circle to chase its tail.

You laugh, only to feel bad that the poor thing doesn't know any better.

If you want another laugh go read the DROY thread.

His talks on Manny Lawson are good too.

 

[Dale]

If you want another laugh go read the DROY thread.

His talks on Manny Lawson are good too.

The guy either is a stand-up comic, or needs to immediately pursue a living in the field. Because he's obviously got a great sense of humor.

I mean, the Lawson stuff; Barber being of Tomlinson's caliber; starting Drew friggin' Bledsoe.

I'm waiting for him to start the "We should consider Zimmer for the head coaching position" thread.

He has to be pulling our legs with this stuff. He just has to be.

 

[Q_the_man]

Ah but did Campbell fumble the ball and give up three additional points like Romo did when it was 36-31?

I like Romo but he has made a ton of mistakes lately.

Rome Fumbled 4 times, but I'll still take Romo! Campbell, Mcnabb, Manning, Garcia, Lorenzen and Brunell all suck :moon:

 

[Boysathelm]

I've seen both QBs play and I'm impressed by both. In the arm department, Jason has the stronger arm, but Romo has the quicker release. Romo can get rid of the ball fairly quickly which is important during 3 and 5. When it comes to scrambling, Romo throws the ball better on the run and is a better, more "shifty" scrambler. Jason is more undeveloped at this stage, and we've yet to see his full athletic ability and/or accuracy, so it's hard to fairly measure both QBs at this point.

I envision both to be better than either Eli or McNabb at their full potential (after 2 more years).

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I've seen both QBs play and I'm impressed by both. In the arm department, Jason has the stronger arm, but Romo has the quicker release. Romo can get rid of the ball fairly quickly which is important during 3 and 5. When it comes to scrambling, Romo throws the ball better on the run and is a better, more "shifty" scrambler. Jason is more undeveloped at this stage, and we've yet to see his full athletic ability and/or accuracy, so it's hard to fairly measure both QBs at this point.

I envision both to be better than either Eli or McNabb at their full potential (after 2 more years).

Now that is a pretty fair assessment.

I see good and bad between both guys. The bad parts of either's game is coachable and fixable.

I am looking forward to seeing both of these guys play in the future.

Likely situation is one will be considered a stud, and the other will be considered an almost, because of being in the same division.

 

[Boysathelm]

Now that is a pretty fair assessment.

I see good and bad between both guys. The bad parts of either's game is coachable and fixable.

I am looking forward to seeing both of these guys play in the future.

Likely situation is one will be considered a stud, and the other will be considered an almost, because of being in the same division.

Jason's flaws are very fixable and due to inexperience. It's expected, actually, given his youth and that he's had to learn two different playbooks (Gibbs and then Saunders). Romo also needs polish, but the one thing that has me concerned about the kid are the self-fumbles. Are his hands too small, is he nervous...what?

 

[theogt]

Jason's flaws are very fixable and due to inexperience. It's expected, actually, given his youth and that he's had to learn two different playbooks (Gibbs and then Saunders). Romo also needs polish, but the one thing that has me concerned about the kid are the self-fumbles. Are his hands too small, is he nervous...what?

Why the concern? Has he done it more than just the 2 times in the past game?

 

[Dale]

Don't think a comparison is very fair or prudent at this juncture.

Campbell's but a second-year player isn't he? Romo's had nearly four years to sit and learn and develop behind the scenes. Give Campbell that amount of time, and he may be just as good or better.

What I liked about Campbell is he immediately made that team better. Even though he had a subpar completion percentage, he gave that team a fighting chance each and every week. Not sure it "felt" that way with Brunell running the show (thanks, Vanderjagt).

Despite being a young quarterback, he never went out there and embarrassed himself for a four-quarter stretch. It may not sound like much, but I think it's fairly difficult for young passers to accomplish that. With more seasoning, he may start to look a little more "spectacular" -- and not just "steady" -- in the future.

 

[Dale]

Why the concern? Has he done it more than just the 2 times in the past game?

Yeah, I don't recall many "self-fumbles" outside of the Detroit game -- though I may very possibly be forgetting a play or two.

I think Romo's biggest thing is we can't be placing him in a situation where he's forced to win the game each and every week. It's a losing formula for any quarterback. At some point, the running game and defense must step up. We know he can make the clutch throws in tight ball games. He's done it in nearly every opportunity, and came up literally a yard short of doing it again last week.

But our recent defensive woes and lack of a running game have forced us to become a passing team (and a passing team, only) in the second halves of some of these games. It's somewhat obvious Romo begins to force throws in such situations.

When he first took over this team, he did so with a solid defense and running game behind him -- one Bledsoe also benefitted from time to time. Suddenly, both have left and Romo is expected to be just as good, if not better, than before.

To add, I think all those breakdowns around him only add to his insistence on forcing things -- it's like a downward spiral for the team. Bad defense + bad running game = bad Romo. We need to stop being bad in one of those first two areas to help break the cycle.

What encourages me is that despite playing his worst month, he hasn't been dreadful as a passer. He excelled as a passer against Atlanta and Detroit -- the fumbles obviously being the flaw in the Lions game. And though he was bad against New Orleans and Philly, at the risk of sounding like a complete Romo homer, I question placing the blame on him when seemingly no one bothered to show up. Sure, he played bad -- but I wonder if those games weren't more poorly reflective of this team than any one individual.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Jason's flaws are very fixable and due to inexperience. It's expected, actually, given his youth and that he's had to learn two different playbooks (Gibbs and then Saunders). Romo also needs polish, but the one thing that has me concerned about the kid are the self-fumbles. Are his hands too small, is he nervous...what?

Supposedly 6 different offenses in 6 years.

Most likely 7 because I dont know many HS coaches that follow their QBs into the college ranks.

Romo has the tools and the weapons, he just needs to start looking of the DBs a little better, and not try to force it as often.

When he takes what he gets he is a very good QB.

EDIT: And very good takes on it all Dale.

 

[smarta5150]

Don't think a comparison is very fair or prudent at this juncture.

Campbell's but a second-year player isn't he? Romo's had nearly four years to sit and learn and develop behind the scenes. Give Campbell that amount of time, and he may be just as good or better.

What I liked about Campbell is he immediately made that team better. Even though he had a subpar completion percentage, he gave that team a fighting chance each and every week. Not sure it "felt" that way with Brunell running the show (thanks, Vanderjagt).

Despite being a young quarterback, he never went out there and embarrassed himself for a four-quarter stretch. It may not sound like much, but I think it's fairly difficult for young passers to accomplish that. With more seasoning, he may start to look a little more "spectacular" -- and not just "steady" -- in the future.

Dont forget about the running game the Skins have had the past 5 games.

Betts: Jones: MBII

11/26 - 104 yards 40 83
12/03 - 155 24 76
12/10 - 171 116 -1
12/17 - 119 26 69
12/24 - 129 38 3
12/30 - 92 27 15

Betts has out rushed both total in 4/5 of the last games.

That must be nice for a QB.