Campbell-NFC Offensive Player of Week

[BnGFever]

Don't be silly.

I really don't want to put up comparison stats to embarrass Campbell so I'll just go with this:


Romo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Campbell

Yep. Sure is, if you count a 5 INT, 1 fumble game as being leagues ahead of campbell. Yes, romo truly is god, isnt he? When he has 5 INTS against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, and an astounding QB rating of just 44. :laugh2:

By the way, the skins run a run-first offense, with emphasis on ball control and limiting mistakes. The offense is not very wide open. Thats the reason why Jason doesnt have massive stats every week. He's not brett favre throwing it 50 times a game. That fact is lost among you cowboy homers.

 

[peplaw06]

Yep. Sure is, if you count a 5 INT, 1 fumble game as being leagues ahead of campbell. Yes, romo truly is god, isnt he? When he has 5 INTS against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, and an astounding QB rating of just 44. :laugh2:

By the way, the skins run a run-first offense, with emphasis on ball control and limiting mistakes. The offense is not very wide open. Thats the reason why Jason doesnt have massive stats every week. He's not brett favre throwing it 50 times a game. That fact is lost among you cowboy homers.

He threw it 50 times in ONE game... and we were trailing the whole game. Guess that fact is lost on all you Commander morons.

 

[THUNDERDOME]

Campbell played well but I'd like to see him do it against a proven defense before crowning him too much just yet.

 

[flashback]

Well, vs. the Packers, which is generally considered a good defense, he had 21 completions on 37 attempts for 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 71.6 QBR. His YPA was 5.9. And he lost.

Looks like that march to the top 10 took a little bit of a hit this week.

In his defense, his receivers did drop a few balls. But I've noticed something else about JC. When he throws more than 30 times, the Commanders lose. I'm not sure what that means, but it doensn't spell 'top 10' to me.

 

[Hostile]

Well, vs. the Packers, which is generally considered a good defense, he had 21 completions on 37 attempts for 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 71.6 QBR. His YPA was 5.9. And he lost.

Looks like that march to the top 10 took a little bit of a hit this week.

In his defense, his receivers did drop a few balls. But I've noticed something else about JC. When he throws more than 30 times, the Commanders lose. I'm not sure what that means, but it doensn't spell 'top 10' to me.

Before the Packers game, Commanders fans kept saying that the Packers defense was mediocre at best. Now they are considered a "good defense."

After the Dolphins game with Washington I was told over and over that the Dolphins defense is good. After we pasted them and ever since then they've been called a "joke."

I'm going to be very interested in how beatable the Patriots are before and after you guys face them.

 

[flashback]

Hos, you can't possibly think I'm a 'Skins fan.







Can you? hno:


:suxskins:


I'm guessing you've seen me over at Extremeskins. Please do not be confused. I've been a Cowboys fan all my life.

:starspin

 

[HogsRLegends]

Well, vs. the Packers, which is generally considered a good defense, he had 21 completions on 37 attempts for 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 71.6 QBR. His YPA was 5.9. And he lost.

Looks like that march to the top 10 took a little bit of a hit this week.

In his defense, his receivers did drop a few balls. But I've noticed something else about JC. When he throws more than 30 times, the Commanders lose. I'm not sure what that means, but it doensn't spell 'top 10' to me.

Packers defense sucks. Al Harris and Charles Woodson manned up on our WRs and we should have exploited that **** but didn't.

 

[03EBZ06]

Yep. Sure is, if you count a 5 INT, 1 fumble game as being leagues ahead of campbell. Yes, romo truly is god, isnt he? When he has 5 INTS against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, and an astounding QB rating of just 44. :laugh2:

But you failed to realize that he still led his team to win, your boy Campbell couldn't hang onto a lead failed to lead his team to win.


As for comprison, it isn't even close, Campbell is nowhere near Romo and couldn't even carry Romo's jock.

Wins: Romo >>>> Campbell
YPG: Romo >>>>> Campbell
YPA: Romo >>>>> Campbell
Comp %: Romo >>> Campbell
TDs: Romo >>>>> Campbell
Comp for 1st Down: Romo >>>>> Campbell
Passer Rating: Romo >>>> Campbell

The only catagory Campbell has it over Romo is in INT.

Due to his inaccuracy, Campbell is nothing more than a bus driver, he isn't asked to win the games for the deadskins.

Bottom line is Campbell is no better then Quincy Carter with slight better mobility.

 

[flashback]

Packers defense sucks. Al Harris and Charles Woodson manned up on our WRs and we should have exploited that **** but didn't.

So, the Packers defense sucks, and your offense managed 2 scoring drives against them. What exactly was the problem?

 

[HogsRLegends]

So, the Packers defense sucks, and your offense managed 2 scoring drives against them. What exactly was the problem?

Poor gameplanning and about 8 dropped passes.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

Well, vs. the Packers, which is generally considered a good defense, he had 21 completions on 37 attempts for 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 71.6 QBR. His YPA was 5.9. And he lost.

Looks like that march to the top 10 took a little bit of a hit this week.

In his defense, his receivers did drop a few balls. But I've noticed something else about JC. When he throws more than 30 times, the Commanders lose. I'm not sure what that means, but it doensn't spell 'top 10' to me.

Our recievers dropped 7 passes ( one of which led to an interception)... If those 7 passes were completed, his numbers would have looked like this:

28-37 ( 75% comp avg), 250 yards ( going by his previous YPA), 1 TD, O INT.

Now those stats don't look that bad. Campbell is nothing more then a gam manager, and he played that role perfectly on Sunday. If it wasn't for Portis
and Moss' fumble, that game would have been in our hands, and we would be talking about Campbell as the winning QB.

 

[Hostile]

Hos, you can't possibly think I'm a 'Skins fan.







Can you? hno:


:suxskins:


I'm guessing you've seen me over at Extremeskins. Please do not be confused. I've been a Cowboys fan all my life.

:starspin

No, I didn't. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was just rattling off an observation. I doubt a Skins fan would be a Zone Supporter.

 

[Rack]

1969 camaro z-28

Yes, it was mine. Sold it last year though.

What in blue hell is wrong with you?

How old are you? You're gonna regret selling that bad boy one day.


What did you get for it?

 

[silverbear]

Yep. Sure is, if you count a 5 INT, 1 fumble game as being leagues ahead of campbell.

One game doesn't negate all the others... at this point, Tony Romo has started 16 games, and is 11-5 as a starter... Campbell is 5-7 as a starter...

Romo has completed 63.1 per cent of his passes as a starter (59.5% this year), Campbell has completed 55.5 per cent (58.7% this year)...

Romo has averaged 288.1 yards per game as a starter (284.5 yards per game this year), Campbell has averaged 198.6 yards per game (217.2 yards per game this year)...

Romo has averaged 8.6 yards per attempt as a starter (8.5 YPA this year), Campbell has averaged 6.7 yards per attempt (7.2 YPA this year)...

Romo has put up a 94.5 quarterback rating as a starter (93.5 this year), Campbell has put up a 78.4 (81.1 this year)...

So yes, even with that 5 int, 1 fumble game, Tony Romo has significantly better stats than Jason Campbell has put up, in every major statistical category...

Yes, romo truly is god, isnt he? When he has 5 INTS against the 31st ranked defense in the NFL, and an astounding QB rating of just 44. :laugh2:

1 bad ball game doesn't negate all the brilliant ball games... and I guess Jason didn't put up a robust 54.2 quarterback rating against the Fins this year, or a 52.2 QBR against the Falcons last year (who ranked 6th in HIGHEST quarterback rating allowed, at 88.8)...

By the way, the skins run a run-first offense, with emphasis on ball control and limiting mistakes. The offense is not very wide open. Thats the reason why Jason doesnt have massive stats every week.

And why do they do that, when they're just 16th in the league in total offense?? Why, because they're AFRAID to trust Jason Campbell to put the team up on his shoulders and lead them to victory... they clearly have no confidence in him, so they play it safe...

He's not brett favre throwing it 50 times a game. That fact is lost among you cowboy homers.

Actually, it's not lost on us at all... it's YOU who haven't figured out what that "run-first offense, with emphasis on ball control and limiting mistakes" is all about... here's a hint, focus on the "limiting mistakes" part; the Skins are playing not to lose, not playing to win... this is why you guys are in tight ball games in virtually every game, even when you play teams you should dominate (like the Fins)...

It's also why the Boys 33.8 points per game, while the Skins average 20.2... and that's with a 34 point outburst against the hapless Lions (giving up an average of 31 points per game, 5th worst in the NFL)... in their other 4 games, the Skins are averaging 16.75 points per game, or less than half what the Boys have averaged per game... their 27 points against the Pats was their lowest point output of the year; the Pats had been allowing an average of 11 points per game going into last Sunday...

 

[silverbear]

He threw it 50 times in ONE game... and we were trailing the whole game. Guess that fact is lost on all you Commander morons.

If Campbell ever got turned loose by the Skins' coaches, his ints would soar... I guess those Skins fans would rather average 17 a game, in order to keep Campbell from throwing any ints... LOL...

 

[silverbear]

Well, vs. the Packers, which is generally considered a good defense, he had 21 completions on 37 attempts for 217 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 71.6 QBR. His YPA was 5.9. And he lost.

Looks like that march to the top 10 took a little bit of a hit this week.

In his defense, his receivers did drop a few balls. But I've noticed something else about JC. When he throws more than 30 times, the Commanders lose. I'm not sure what that means, but it doensn't spell 'top 10' to me.

I'm starting to think that he's a big part of the problem with all those QB drops... I mean, they seem to happen game after game after game after game... we all remember that Chad Hutchinson never seemed to learn when to take a little something off of his fastball, and that resulted in Cowboys' WRs dropping a ton of passes for him, too...

BTW, Green Bay's pass defense really isn't all that good... they actually rose in the rankings after playing the Skins, and are currently ranked 22nd, giving up an average of 223.7 yards per game...

 

[silverbear]

So, the Packers defense sucks, and your offense managed 2 scoring drives against them. What exactly was the problem?

In fairness, I think the injuries on the OL had a LITTLE bit to do with the Skins' offensive struggles...

 

[silverbear]

Our recievers dropped 7 passes ( one of which led to an interception)... If those 7 passes were completed, his numbers would have looked like this:

28-37 ( 75% comp avg), 250 yards ( going by his previous YPA), 1 TD, O INT.

Now those stats don't look that bad. Campbell is nothing more then a gam manager, and he played that role perfectly on Sunday. If it wasn't for Portis
and Moss' fumble, that game would have been in our hands, and we would be talking about Campbell as the winning QB.

Too bad for you that Campbell is rather inaccurate, and your WRs aren't real good... that combination often leads to a lot of "drops"...

And of course, "if" my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle... have you ever noticed it's always the guys who LOST who woof about "if"??

 

[flashback]

Here's my contribution:

Here's how I'd rank the NFCE QBs:

#1 Romo
#2 Manning
#3 Campbell
#4 McNabb

The first criterion is Wins. All other things being equal (which they never are), I give a QB a lot more credit for putting up stats in a win than in a loss. Romo's won 5/6, Manning 4/6, Campbell 3/5 and McNabb 2/5.

Then you can start looking at numbers.

http://i192.***BLOCKED***/albums/z153/cawyatts/NFCEQBsHeadtoHead.jpg

If we just went by the numbers, Campbell would actually be looking up at McNabb. But McNabb put up most of his touchdown passes and almost 1/3 of his yards in one game against the Lions. (Incidentally, the best day of Campbell's career was against the Lions. You know Romo and Manning are looking forward to that day.)

All of these teams have problems at the WR position, its just a matter of whose problems are worse. For the Cowboys, Glenn is hurt and Hurd is turning out to have problems as the #3. On the Giants, Burress is hurt and Toomer is old. Brandon Lloyd sucks. All the Eagles WRs are terrible.

Romo and Manning are asked to carry their teams, at least offensively. Campbell is in a run-first offense. Reid and Morninweg say they're going to run the ball, then conveniently forget to call any runs on game day. (I say 'conveniently' because it sure is convenient for the defense when a gimpy McNabb drops back to pass to noone 40+ times per game.)

As one of my favorite posters from the old Austin360 board used to say, That is All!