Can Christine Michael Complete The Vision Of Dallas' Rushing Attack?

robjay04

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so your saying if Murray took the 6 mil a year offer from cowboys, that we could not have got hardy??
Or that if they offered 2 more mil that would have prevented them getting hardy?
I think they could have done both.

We absolutely could've done both and sometimes I feel we should've done both.

I don't think Hardy is a good comparison though, we basically gave Murray's contract to Crawford.

Crawford: 5 years, 45 million, 24 guaranteed
Murray: 5 years, 40 million, 21 guaranteed

Contracts are very similar. Regardless, we wouldn't of had a chance to sign Hardy back after this season and no hope of signing both Fred/Martin when that time comes.
 

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I just love when people take the simple approach and come back with this question. It amuses me.

Is the Eagles offensive scheme similar or identical to that used by the Cowboys?

Let's discuss.

Also, take note that Chip finally realized his scheme was not one size fits all and made some changes a few weeks ago to accommodate his starting QB and RB. How did that work out for Demarco last week? Where does Philly currently sit in our division?

No offense but you sound more like an Eagles fan with that comment. Demarco Murray not being here or being on the Eagles means nothing as far as the division goes. Eagles are first because Romo and Dez is hurt, point blank. If Romo/Dez were healthy, I have a feeling we wouldn't even be discussing this as much anymore because the rushing attack would be better. Secondly, while obviously Demarco improved, when I watched the game I saw a ton of negative runs. Murray did a good job as a closer in the 4th quarter when he took advantage of a tired Giants defense but for most the game, he was just average.

I think you can make a good argument that Murray should be here...but pointing to the Eagles being first place is just off place. I personally think Murray would be having some issues duplicating his own success here without Romo/Dez to take pressure off of him.
 
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No offense but you sound more like an Eagles fan with that comment. Demarco Murray not being here or being on the Eagles means nothing as far as the division goes. Eagles are first because Romo and Dez is hurt, point blank. If Romo/Dez were healthy, I have a feeling we wouldn't even be discussing this as much anymore because the rushing attack would be better. Secondly, while obviously Demarco improved, when I watched the game and saw a ton of negative runs. Murray did a good job as a closer in the 4th quarter when he took advantage of a tired Giants defense but for most the game, he was just average.

I think you can make a good argument that Murray should be here...but pointing to the Eagles being first place is just off place. I personally think Murray would be having some issues duplicating his own success here without Romo/Dez to take pressure off of him.

We all have opinions.

It's time we as Cowboys fans faced a little reality instead of snorting every line of sunshine thrown our way by the front office.
 

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We all have opinions.

It's time we as Cowboys fans faced a little reality instead of snorting every line of sunshine thrown our way by the front office.

What is an opinion though? You still think the Cowboys are 2-3 with Romo/Dez on the field? You don't believe having a formidable passing attack would help the running game? The Eagles were absolutely manhandled at home by the Cowboys, no way you can really think the Eagles are a better team because they have Demarco and we don't.
 

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What is an opinion though? You still think the Cowboys are 2-3 with Romo/Dez on the field? You don't believe having a formidable passing attack would help the running game? The Eagles were absolutely manhandled at home by the Cowboys, no way you can really think the Eagles are a better team because they have Demarco and we don't.

No we're 4-1 with Romo & Dez on the field but, as I noted in week 2 before Romo got injured, we cannot sustain all season with Romo throwing 45 times a game. The running game blew then and it REALLY got exposed when Romo went down. Bring on the change.

& again, for the record, I never said they were a better team because they have Demarco. Reread what I said.

People like to talk about Demarco's success in Philly but it doesn't take rocket science to understand he is playing out of position in a scheme that doesn't fit him. Chip adjusted and Demarco is finally fitting in. It doesn't make me an Eagle fan to see the reality of it. It just makes me a Cowboys fan that refuses to be blinded by the Valley Ranch sunshine.
 
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I'm as eager as anyone to see if Michael can provide some of the toughness that characterized our running game last year, but the fact that so many of us have been reduced to hoping that he and Cassel save the season is worrisome and suggests to me that our team isn't very good right now.
 

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No we're 4-1 with Romo & Dez on the field but, as I noted in week 2 before Romo got injured, we cannot sustain all season with Romo throwing 45 times a game. The running game blew then and it REALLY got exposed when Romo went down. Bring on the change.

I can't argue that at all. Randle is not the answer, he would be better statistically with Romo/Dez but we would be better off seeing what Michael has so we can know how much of an urgent need RB is sooner rather than later. We do have the trade deadline looming though I doubt that means much.

I do think management had every intention on drafting a running back as you can tell by the fact they invited every prospect in for a visit but they couldn't pass on Gregory in the second. Green in the third though, I have no excuse for.
 

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I can't argue that at all. Randle is not the answer, he would be better statistically with Romo/Dez but we would be better off seeing what Michael has so we can know how much of an urgent need RB is sooner rather than later. We do have the trade deadline looming though I doubt that means much.

I do think management had every intention on drafting a running back as you can tell by the fact they invited every prospect in for a visit but they couldn't pass on Gregory in the second. Green in the third though, I have no excuse for.

Agree completely with you on all points.
 

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yeah don't look like it worked out real well though this team misses murray badly

More than anything this team misses Romo and Dez. I believe we'd have had quite a bit more success if we had an offense that at least threatened to pass. That being said I don't think Randle or Mc are the kinds of backs we need to pound the ball. Here's to hoping CMIKE can add an element of power to our power rushing team.
 

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It was a huge mistake. On both parts. For Murray and the Cowboys.

For future reference: You probably dont want to lose the leagues leading rusher in FA. You probably dont want to mess around with the dynamic and locker room leadership and team chemistry that lead to a 12-4 season. The best season in ohhhhh 20 years?

You probably dont want to do that!

If youre worried about wear and tear, then have Randle(who you are so high on anyone) pick up the slack....or even sign another RB..... to compliment all the high draft choice studs you have spent on the Offensive Line.......

It was a mistake. A big mistake. And everybody knows it. That is of course, if winning a Super Bowl is the number one goal.
 

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How in the heck could Joseph Randle-Darren McFadden-Lance Dunbar fail?


Yeah, I mean that has been a shocker!!! I mean, just look at the history of these backs..... its a real brain twister.

shocking!
 

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I just love when people take the simple approach and come back with this question. It amuses me.

Is the Eagles offensive scheme similar or identical to that used by the Cowboys?

Let's discuss.

Also, take note that Chip finally realized his scheme was not one size fits all and made some changes a few weeks ago to accommodate his starting QB and RB. How did that work out for Demarco last week? Where does Philly currently sit in our division?

Perhaps Chip watched some Cowboys offensive film. Hmmm

Bottom line, it was a travesty to let Demarco go without a fight that might have helped him believe we cared. This could have lowered the asking price. But noooo... We're smarter than everyone else. Hence our 20 year drought, scatback by committee, & desire to place guys in positions where they don't excel just to prove a point (Randle).

That all history though. But it bears mention since you asked such a simple question.

I view Christine Michael as that 3rd round draft pick that we screwed the pooch on. His success will erase the memory of that faux pas.

This whole thought that cough cough a certain RB on the roster was just as good or comparable to Murray and could handle the job still irritates me. I hate watching that RB play hot garbage
 

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no it did not, and it also led to romo getting hurt.

I don't see how Murray being here prevents Romo from getting hurt. The play Romo was injured on didn't result from a back missing a block. Romo bobbled the snap, had to retreat to his left and got taken down on his collarbone.
It happens.
 

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Had murray stayed the whole course of events would be different and that play romo got hurt on would never have happened.

There's absolutely no way you could know this. Stop torturing yourself.
 

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and whats all the super bowl team talk this team even with romo and dez is not going to the superbowl if they were a superbowl level team they would figure out how to win some games during this stretch they were superbowl type team last year this year not so much that's all jerry and Stephen talk.
 

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It isnt speculation, had murray stayed each game would have been different, and that play romo was hurt on would not have occurred.
He might have got hurt on some other play, but everything would have unfolded in a different way.

Proof, please?
 

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There's absolutely no way you could know this. Stop torturing yourself.


I agree, but I will say the odds of Romo getting hurt wouldve been less , if we had the same running attack as we did, when Murray was here....
 

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and whats all the super bowl team talk this team even with romo and dez is not going to the superbowl if they were a superbowl level team they would figure out how to win some games during this stretch they were superbowl type team last year this year not so much that's all jerry and Stephen talk.


I dont see it either.

Its the dreamer in me that thinks the team will transform into a team that cant be stopped and get hot down the stretch and roll through the playoffs..... I really, really do think that can happen. I dont think thats such "wild" thinking....Its a reasnable scenario; right?

but,


its not happening;............................its not happening
 
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