Can Dallas win a Super Bowl with RB By Committee?

[KJJ]

I want Joe Randle to be the lead dog this year, seems like he's the best talent on the RB roster.

Too many are judging Randle off the long runs he had last season which jacked up his rushing average. He would get very little on several of his carries but always managed to break off one nice run to boost his average. His rushing average would've been down without those 15 plus yard runs he always seemed to come up with. He's quick and has some burst but hasn't shown much when he receives 10 or more carries so the jury is still out on him.

 

[KJJ]

Murray softening up the defense benefited Randle. Troy Hambrick use to always break off runs subbing for Emmitt. Same with Marion Barber when he came in to replace Julius. Neither of those backs were nearly as effective when their workloads increased as starters. I'm not saying Randle won't produce we'll just have to see.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Murray softening up the defense benefited Randle. Troy Hambrick use to always break off runs subbing for Emmitt. Same with Marion Barber when he came in to replace Julius. Neither of those backs were nearly as effective when their workloads increased as starters. I'm not saying Randle won't produce we'll just have to see.

The thing I don't get is why is it Murray that's always "softening up" the defense and never the offensive line? Do the offensive linemen not hit the defenders?

 

[5Stars]

The thing I don't get is why is it Murray that's always "softening up" the defense and never the offensive line? Do the offensive linemen not hit the defenders?

lol Why you talking to him about this? You are not going to win a debate with him. His next post will be as long as War and Peace! KJJ knows everything...he has 8 million online followers, he's said so himself.

 

[KJJ]

The thing I don't get is why is it Murray that's always "softening up" the defense and never the offensive line? Do the offensive linemen not hit the defenders?

Murray had been the Cowboys starting RB since his breakout game vs the Rams in 2011. He's the only back the Cowboys have had since Emmitt to establish himself as an elite back. Was it the transitioning OL in 2011 that was average at best that softened up the defense allowing Murray to gain a franchise record 253 yards? I'm not saying the OL didn't contribute but he had a number of terrific games well before this OL was built. He wasn't entering games with fresh legs like Randle he started games and carried the load. None of the Cowboys other backs including Randle have produced consistently like Murray. Randle had 2 starts in 2013 and averaged 1.9 a carry vs Detroit and 3.4 vs Philly. He was given an opportunity and didn't take advantage of it like Murray did when he got his chance. If you listen to most here they'll tell you Murray is slow and has no vision. He didn't look slow or bind on this play.

 

[Knotamus]

Murray had been the Cowboys starting RB since his breakout game vs the Rams in 2011. He's the only back the Cowboys have had since Emmitt to establish himself as an elite back. Was it the transitioning OL in 2011 that was average at best that softened up the defense allowing Murray to gain a franchise record 253 yards? I'm not saying the OL didn't contribute but he had a number of terrific games well before this OL was built. He wasn't entering games with fresh legs like Randle he started games and carried the load. None of the Cowboys other backs including Randle have produced consistently like Murray. Randle had 2 starts in 2013 and averaged 1.9 a carry vs Detroit and 3.4 vs Philly. He was given an opportunity and didn't take advantage of it like Murray did when he got his chance. If you listen to most here they'll tell you Murray is slow and has no vision. He didn't look slow or bind on this play.

Newsflash: Murray is a hated Eagle now... move on.

 

[5Stars]

Newsflash: Murray is a hated Eagle now... move on.

He is not the only one that has been crying over spilled milk ever since Murray decided to move on. Murray was offered 6 plus mil but he could not feed his family on that kind of coin...his family need two more mil to live a nice lifestyle...up in that dump of a place! lol

 

[jnday]

It's not a fact we were 12-4 just because of the game. OL, not setting records for injuries on defense, and offensive playcalling were all contributing factors. You're trolling pretty hard bro. You even watch the Cowboys?

The only difference between the 12-4 season and the 8-8 seasons was the addition of the running game and the OL is a big part of that running game. There was no change on the defense other than them being fresh and that was due to TOP. I have been watching Dallas for 45 years. Can you say the same? If I was trolling, you would know it. Is that your answer to anything you disagree with , to call somebody a troll? That can work both ways.

 

[KJJ]

Murray had tired legs from all the carries which is why he didn't look very quick and fast as the season went on last year. Philly won't wear him down like the Cowboys which should make him very effective in the 4th quarter.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dallas didn't go three straight 8-8 seasons? The running game came together and 12-4 was the result. Exactly what part of this statement is not true? You are welcome to disagree with my opinion, but this is not my opinion. It is fact.

Trying to be a passing team in a passing league isn't what led to 3 straight 8-8 seasons.

 

[KJJ]

Newsflash: Murray is a hated Eagle now... move on.

He may end up being even more hated after the Cowboys face him if their defense doesn't improve.

 

[5Stars]

Murray had tired legs from all the carries which is why he didn't look very quick and fast as the season went on last year. Philly won't wear him down like the Cowboys which should make him very effective in the 4th quarter.

Yep....he went to Philly to win the SB. Have fun watching all that! lol

 

[5Stars]

He may end up being even more hated after the Cowboys face him if their defense doesn't improve.

Sounds like you are wishing for that....

 

[5Stars]

Trying to be a passing team in a passing league isn't what led to 3 straight 8-8 seasons.

Well, in his defense...he does not take into account the defense during those days.

 

[KJJ]

To put into perspective how much the Cowboys depended on Murray last season not only did he carry the ball more times than Emmitt ever carried the ball for the Cowboys in a season but he also carried the ball more times than AP ever did in a season.

 

[gmoney112]

The only difference between the 12-4 season and the 8-8 seasons was the addition of the running game and the OL is a big part of that running game. There was no change on the defense other than them being fresh and that was due to TOP. I have been watching Dallas for 45 years. Can you say the same? If I was trolling, you would know it. Is that your answer to anything you disagree with , to call somebody a troll? That can work both ways.

The defense was better in every single statistical category on a per drive basis. When you ignore that fact, the difference in playcalling, and the dominance of the OL to try and further your agenda, then yes, that is by definition trolling.

 

[Knotamus]

I've posted this several times already in the other umpteen threads about our state of runningbacks. Last year was an anomaly. The only reason Demarco did what he did...

1) The FO's commitment to the run game.. finally
2) The #1 rated OL. this is the big difference that Murray lovers overlook when trying to prove their points. (every RB wants truck size lanes to run through)
3) The #1 rated QB (and fifth alltime! so please don't convince yourself that's bc of Murray too)
4) The top three WR that draws consistent double teams, that allows LESS defenders in the box to stop the run
5) last and the least talked about by fans but not forgotten by coaches.. the whole offense including WR & TE's that greatly improved their overall blocking. (I distinctly remember Witten and Dez giving huge blocks to allow Murray to score)

I liked Murray and I'm not taking anything from his superb year, but folks around here seem to think it was all Murray.. thus taking away from what the rest of the team did to help Murray get there. Murrays production was a product of Garrett's vision of a team, improved blocking, and the overall commitment to run the ball. If the Dallas Cowboys do all these things again, McFadden, Randle, Williams & Dunbar WILL take advantage...Just like Murray did.

 

[5Stars]

The defense was better in every single statistical category on a per drive basis. When you ignore that fact, the difference in playcalling, and the dominance of the OL to try and further your agenda, then yes, that is by definition trolling.

It may not be trolling, I think it's just not understanding..It a lack of focus. Many around here do not UNDERSTAND the concept of TEAM. I swear...reading some of these posts you would think that Murray invented the running game! smh

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Was it the transitioning OL in 2011 that was average at best that softened up the defense allowing Murray to gain a franchise record 253 yards?

In 2011 the Rams had the worst run defense that year and probably the worst tackling percentage ever. Every teams RB looked all world against them that year. Murray's run of 91 yards the 2nd time he touched the ball in that game was in a hole that just about any running back in the league would have scored on. And by the way, "he left a lot of meat on the bone" on several runs after. He actually just fell down on one of his break away runs. He should have had well over 300 yards that game.

And by the way, that "transitional OL in 2011 that was average at best", was actually the 9th best run blocking line that year.

 

[KJJ]

Murray looked like he was shot out of a cannon on that 91 yard run because that was his first start in 2011 and he hadn't had many carries leading up to that game. All the complaints about his speed and quickness began later last season when the amount of carries he received started to take their toll.