Can some of you football guys please explain to me...

[50cent]

Why is it so hard for our staff to see that evry team we play is copying the same format to beat us? We run on first and second down, then on 3rd and 8 we try to run some 3 step drop that Bledsoe is horrid at doing. But on 3rd and 1 we throw the deep ball? The one damn game we came out threw the ball, it put our opponent on their heels for the entire game. Check this out, we were still able to control the game with the run after getting out front.

Fellas, I'm at the point that I rather throw it like Philly and then control the game with the run once we get out in front. I mean, Bledsoe is still throwing INTs and fumbling like Hutch. Why not just give it a shot? Can someone please explain our thought process, because even I am starting to second guess BP.

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

50, I feel your pain. I have a hard time watching this High School offense also!

 

[50cent]

That still doesn't help me, what are you seeing that solifies Bps stance to run, run, run.

 

[rojan]

The game we had today is a perfect example of why we dont pass every down...Did you see Bledsoe, He was scared and had no time to pass the ball...We have to run so the DE's dont know what is coming and they cant just pass rush all game

 

[NorTex]

We threw the ball more than we ran it, didn't we.

It didn't seem to matter which down we ran and which down we threw. Our pass protection was bad all day long.

 

[EveryoneElse]

We threw the ball more than we ran it, didn't we.

You have to when the game plan(the same one we've been rolling out there for a long time now) is a pile of crap, and you fall behind.

I say we come out ATTACKING for once. Screw it, if we're going down, lets go down FIGHTING.

 

[50cent]

You have to when the game plan(the same one we've been rolling out there for a long time now) is a pile of crap, and you fall behind.

I say we come out ATTACKING for once. Screw it, if we're going down, lets go down FIGHTING.

Now here is a man that I like. Go down firing away. And to answer someone above, even though we did throw, we were doing it on obvious downs.

 

[EveryoneElse]

even though we did throw, we were doing it on obvious downs.

Thats the problem, I agree. We need to be more creative.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

when it was third and half an inch and we threw deep, thats what bothered me. The play after Uminyora beat JJ to the outside.

Get the 1st, then take a shot

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Parcells said just this week that the most important thing to him is controlling the clock.

Now it's debatable how much that's worth if you aren't scoring when you have the ball. IMO, some of that is simply the style he likes, like the 3-4 defense, big players, and a fullback that's more a runner than a blocker. It's not that those things are necessarily better, it's just how he likes to play the game.

And I think a lot of it is that he doesn't trust the young tackles, and to some extent Bledsoe. I think he even said this week that he simply couldn't ask these young tackles to pass protect 40 times a game. But it does seem strange in that it almost seems like a strategy you'd use to protect a defense that you don't trust, when surely Parcells doesn't doubt any longer that his defense is for real.

 

[EveryoneElse]

when it was third and half an inch and we threw deep, thats what bothered me. The play after Uminyora beat JJ to the outside.

Get the 1st, then take a shot

I kinda agreed with the call. My favorite time to take a shot down field is in short yardage situations. It only works when your successful at running the ball tho.

Remeber the OT game with the skins back about 4 or 5 years ago on opening day? 3rd and 1 yard. Playaction deep to Rocket. Everyone in the stadium thought Emmitt was getting that ball to pick up the first.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Hey I saw a pass attempt on first down today. Maybe 2!!!!!!

 

[EveryoneElse]

Parcells said just this week that the most important thing to him is controlling the clock.

Maybe he should focus more on scoring points. T.O.P. doesn't put points on the board, and his close to the vest, low scoring afairs have been back-Firing more than anything lately.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Folks, when you can't block, you can't do much of anything on offense. And this line cannot block. The complete inability of the line to pass-protect drives the game plan, not the other way around.

 

[50cent]

Parcells said just this week that the most important thing to him is controlling the clock.

Now it's debatable how much that's worth if you aren't scoring when you have the ball. IMO, some of that is simply the style he likes, like the 3-4 defense, big players, and a fullback that's more a runner than a blocker. It's not that those things are necessarily better, it's just how he likes to play the game.

And I think a lot of it is that he doesn't trust the young tackles, and to some extent Bledsoe. I think he even said this week that he simply couldn't ask these young tackles to pass protect 40 times a game. But it does seem strange in that it almost seems like a strategy you'd use to protect a defense that you don't trust, when surely Parcells doesn't doubt any longer that his defense is for real.

This is exactly what I was looking for. My point is not to throw it 40 times a game, not even 30. But damnit switch up the downs on which we throw it. The DL already has an advantage knowing when we are going to snap the ball, don't let em know its a run too. Do you think Clancy had any doubt that we were going to run that ball to start the 2nd half? I don't. Every team we play knows we run on first down about 80% of the time. The odds are with them on guessing right. Oh yeah, they also know we run the ball on 1st down every time in the red zone.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You have to when the game plan(the same one we've been rolling out there for a long time now) is a pile of crap, and you fall behind.

I say we come out ATTACKING for once. Screw it, if we're going down, lets go down FIGHTING.

and risk more DTs coming free up the middle to strip Bledsoe? no thanks

 

[Asklesko]

Change the gameplan? LMAO.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Remeber the OT game with the skins back about 4 or 5 years ago on opening day? 3rd and 1 yard. Playaction deep to Rocket. Everyone in the stadium thought Emmitt was getting that ball to pick up the first.

gotta get to 3rd and 1 1st, we find ourselves in 3rd and long situations way too much

 

[EveryoneElse]

and risk more DTs coming free up the middle to strip Bledsoe? no thanks

Whatever. Les stick to what we're doing then, it seems to be working well....right?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

how about get ourselves an offensive line? that's what we need to do, so that Bill can can give into your demands