Can some of you football guys please explain to me...

[EveryoneElse]

gotta get to 3rd and 1 1st, we find ourselves in 3rd and long situations way too much

Did you bother reading the post I replied to? He said he didn't like the pass play on third and short today. I said I did.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Did you bother reading the post I replied to? He said he didn't like the pass play on third and short today. I said I did.

do you just like to argue with me? that play only works on 3rd and short, but we hardly find ourselves in 3rd and short

don't see how I'm disagreeing with you

 

[50cent]

Folks, when you can't block, you can't do much of anything on offense. And this line cannot block. The complete inability of the line to pass-protect drives the game plan, not the other way around.

Not much difference in 3rd and 10 and 3rd and 8. Especially when you run on 1st and 2nd for 2 yards. If the line can only get you 2 yards on first and second, I think we have a better chance throwing to the back out of the backfield than pounding our hears against a wall. Hey we might just get 8 yards on 1st and 2nd throwing and then running for 2 yards on 3rd. Just try something new for gods sakes.

 

[EveryoneElse]

how about get ourselves an offensive line? that's what we need to do, so that Bill can can give into your demands

It doesn't take a great mind to realize that what we're doing is LOSING games right now. What is worse than losing? Nothing? Thats right. I'm saying we try a new aproach, it beats laying down and dying like we're doing now.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't mind a new approach, but pass, pass, pass, and looking deep, is going to kill Bledsoe, and ultimately our team

think about it, we coughed up the ball 4 times today...playing "conservatively"

 

[EveryoneElse]

do you just like to argue with me? that play only works on 3rd and short, but we hardly find ourselves in 3rd and short

don't see how I'm disagreeing with you

I'm not arguing with you about this. I never advocated running it more. I was stating that I agreed with the call today. I'm not saying we should run it everytime we are in a 3rd and short.


I ageed with the call today.....you came back with a reason we don't run it more.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I ageed with the call today.....you came back with a reason we don't run it more.

ok, what's the problem then? is it not true?

 

[EveryoneElse]

I don't mind a new approach, but pass, pass, pass, and looking deep, is going to kill Bledsoe, and ultimately our team

think about it, we coughed up the ball 4 times today...playing "conservatively"

Personally, I don't care if Bledsoe gets "killed". He's paid to play the position. He's not doing us much good handing the ball off for 2.5 yards a pop.

I don't have a problem losing if our coaches give our guys the best chance to win. If they fight it out and give it everything, and lose.....the best team won that day. Thats not happening, and hasn't been for a while.

 

[EveryoneElse]

ok, what's the problem then? is it not true?

It is true.....why are you telling me? Thats my point. I never asked why we don't run it more. Or never said we SHOULD run it more.

WHy are you telling me.....that was my point, I guess.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you don't care if Bledsoe gets killed? you must have alot of faith in Tony Romo then

you catch my last sentence there? the part where we gave up the ball 4 times, playing "conservatively"? the point there, is to say, imagine if we leave Bledsoe hanging out there to dry, behind this terrible Oline, which you are suggesting...heh, what happened today is gonna be nothing compared to what we'll see then

the Giants are a pretty good team, so are the Broncos, last I checked, so if that's not, "the best team won", I dont' know what is then

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It is true.....why are you telling me? Thats my point. I never asked why we don't run it more. Or never said we SHOULD run it more.

WHy are you telling me.....that was my point, I guess.

I was just giving my 2cents, that's all

 

[EveryoneElse]

you don't care if Bledsoe gets killed? you must have alot of faith in Tony Romo then

I have no faith in Romo or Henson. My point is.....what good is Bledsoe, if he's not THROWING the football? Run. Run. Pass on 3rd and 8 is killing our playoff chances. Why not PASS to set up the RUN?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

simple

we don't have the Oline

 

[EveryoneElse]

simple

we don't have the Oline

We don't have the o-line to run either, so maybe we should just forfeit the rest of our games.

 

[Juke99]

It's beginning to look (alot like Christmas)...uh, no no..wait...It's beginning to look alot like Parcells has the creativity of a shoe tree.

A long time ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, Bill won a game vs the Buffalo Bills (that he wasn't supposed to win) in the super bowl...

He did it with ball control and a conservative game plan.

And he's tried to do it again and again and again since then.

The problem isn't so much that the offense has lousy players but that the game plan and the offensive philosophy is structured around perfect execution.

This offense is the anti Jimmy Johnson offense, which stressed play makers making plays.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

We don't have the o-line to run either, so maybe we should just forfeit the rest of our games.

no, just give us the best chance to stay in games, which is what we are doing

still haven't addressed my point about the turnovers

 

[EveryoneElse]

It's beginning to look (alot like Christmas)...uh, no no..wait...It's beginning to look alot like Parcells has the creativity of a shoe tree.

A long time ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, Bill won a game vs the Buffalo Bills (that he wasn't supposed to win) in the super bowl...

He did it with ball control and a conservative game plan.

And he's tried to do it again and again and again since then.

The problem isn't so much that the offense has lousy players but that the game plan and the offensive philosophy is structured around perfect execution.

This offense is the anti Jimmy Johnson offense, which stressed play makers making plays.

I was thinking the same thing today Juke. This isn't the NFL 20 years ago. I think BP was/is a great football mind. I do think he's too set in his ways to change or admit he is going about some things wrong.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Bill is set in his ways about his D

yet noone's complaining about that part of the team

I guess it's only after a loss that BP is doing things wrong...

 

[EveryoneElse]

no, just give us the best chance to stay in games, which is what we are doing

still haven't addressed my point about the turnovers

Turnovers?

Two fumbles and two picks.

Is that all you want? Stay in games? I wanna win games. We're losing a lot of games that we are in.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Bill is set in his ways about his D

yet noone's complaining about that part of the team

I guess it's only after a loss that BP is doing things wrong...

The D is whats keeping us in games. We need to address the conservative offense that CAN'T do enough to justify being on the same field as the defense.