Can the Joneses resist signing Hardy to a long term deal

[JoeKing]

Uh, ok

 

[Craig]

I stopped reading after the first point because all reports indicate otherwise.

 

[visionary]

Cleaning toilets must be paying big money then

 

[JoeKing]

Cleaning toilets must be paying big money then

Did I already say you sound like a not so nice person? Wanting to lock people up for thinking something you disagree with and then calling me a toilet cleaner... you seem to not want to be part of a civil society.

 

[Daillest88]

so far not happy with Lawrence, so yeah sign him, pass rushers don't grow on trees, I think hes played pretty darn well for being gone for a year

 

[dfense]

It's pretty simple. If Hardy ends the year with just 4 or 5 sacks, his production is not worth the trouble.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Hardy has not been invisible even the last few games. It's not his fault nobody else is cleaning up, while he's putting pressure on the QB. His motor is also endless, while the scrubs on our squad just like to give up when stone-walled, particukarly Hayden who is blown off the ball and pushed back everytime he's next to guys like Hardy.

When he is off the field our defensive line is even more pathetic.

More than ninety percent of this board kept defending Ware for disappeared by at the end of the season and he kept disappearing.

Because Ware still did exactly what Hardy is doing. Getting pressures here and there. That's why.

Pretending like Hardy is getting constant pressure is BS. He hasn't and isn't.

And it's a lot easier to defend a guy like Ware, who was doing what Hardy is doing, only without all the other dumb *** ME **** like Hardy has. You didn't have Ware missing meetings. Making stupid twitter posts or acting like a general *******.

 

[khiladi]

Because Ware still did exactly what Hardy is doing. Getting pressures here and there. That's why.

Pretending like Hardy is getting constant pressure is BS. He hasn't and isn't.

And it's a lot easier to defend a guy like Ware, who was doing what Hardy is doing, only without all the other dumb *** ME **** like Hardy has. You didn't have Ware missing meetings. Making stupid twitter posts or acting like a general *******.

Even if we were to accept that argument, then that means Hardy is doing what our BEST player on defense was doing for years. So stop talking about his performance and just say you don't like him, because you don't like his personality.

If Hardy is playing like Ware is, a first-round HOF, what grounds do people have to criticize his performance on the field..

You think your going to draft a DL better than Ware or Hardy next year that would destroy D-lines while our offense plays conservative and our defense does as well, the max it does on the latter is just rush 4, doing some stunts here and there?

Ware's best years was when they ran all sorts of variations up front when Wade was here and his greatest sack year was 2009. Looking at total stats, one could make the case 2007, when the offense was clicking as a whole, it was his best year going by sacks and tackles.

Hardy isn't anywhere afforded a guy like Wade on defense nor a semi-decent offensive performance to take pressure off.

Hardy is BY FAR our best defensive player on the field and plug and play isn't going to solve the problems with this team. That's been the excuse far too long, including the offense with the whole, we need a second WR for this offense to really take off..

 

[cowboyuptx]

I want Hardy signed to a 3-4 year deal, so long as it's well below market value compared to what a player of his caliber would normally get...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Even if we were to accept that argument, then that means Hardy is doing what our BEST player on defense was doing for years. So stop talking about his performance and just say you don't like him, because you don't like his personality.

If Hardy is playing like Ware is, a first-round HOF, what grounds do people have to criticize his performance on the field..

You think your going to draft a DL better than Ware or Hardy next year that would destroy D-lines while our offense plays conservative and our defense does as well, the max it does on the latter is just rush 4, doing some stunts here and there?

Ware's best years was when they ran all sorts of variations up front when Wade was here and his greatest sack year was 2009. Looking at total stats, one could make the case 2007, when the offense was clicking as a whole, it was his best year going by sacks and tackles.

Hardy isn't anywhere afforded a guy like Wade on defense nor a semi-decent offensive performance to take pressure off.

Hardy is BY FAR our best defensive player on the field and plug and play isn't going to solve the problems with this team. That's been the excuse far too long, including the offense with the whole, we need a second WR for this offense to really take off..

I've never once said Hardy wasn't a great player.

He's not a player whose ******** I want to deal with for him to be a great player here and there.

A guy like Ware, yeah I'll deal with him being a great player who disappears here and there (from the eye of those who only look for sacks) just like Hardy has done because Ware doesn't bring a bunch of BS along with.

No I don't think it's worth the bs and circus that Hardy brings with him to bring what he's bringing. If I'm gong to have to deal with all that other **** from him then he better be making big plays (Sacks, fumble recoveries, INT's, etc) in every single game.

I don't like or dislike Hardy personally. I don't know him. So I can't speak to him as a person, on an every day level. But I can go by his bs that he has done since here (missing meetings, showing up late, etc) and know that I don't like him as part of my favorite football team.

Regardless of how great a player he is.