CowboyStar88
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The best and most powerful "message" the fans could send would be to stop watching the games on TV.
So should you stream it?
The best and most powerful "message" the fans could send would be to stop watching the games on TV.
Lord, no. The NFL sees streaming platforms as their future cash cow. Last thing we need to do is encourage them.So should you stream it?
The best and most powerful "message" the fans could send would be to stop watching the games on TV.
It just goes to show you how arrogant one too many people are. It isn't many things you can get 100% agreement on if anything but OP really think this is one of the things? Lol at this point everybody just attention _______ for whatever side they're on.Makes sense, because EVERY fan has the exact same view as you. Lets unionize...
Please bring your virtue signaling to a forum better suited for sanctimonious blowhards.Here's a crazy thought
The 'most powerful message' might be to understand that there are people in our great country who are being discriminated against every single day in their life and actually take our head out of the sand and do something about it?
Crazy I know
Please bring your virtue signaling to a forum better suited for sanctimonious blowhards.
Lord, no. The NFL sees streaming platforms as their future cash cow. Last thing we need to do is encourage them.
Rich you've been one of my favorite posters on this board for years, but I'm curious as you're really upset by this all why are you still here and why do you continue to watch? By the tone of your posts it feels like you want them to fail?
Here's a crazy thought
The 'most powerful message' might be to understand that there are people in our great country who are being discriminated against every single day in their life and actually take our head out of the sand and do something about it?
Crazy I know
Who are these people doing the epidemic of discriminating? Can you name names?
I’m a believer in educating over protesting. Sometimes protesting can help educate, but I don't see that going on here with this protest. I want to be educated on the perspectives that are not my own and I want to educate people on my perspectives so we can better attack issues presented to us.
So by boycotting the boycotters, it pretty much goes against what I believe in. I would likely only boycott something when I find that the situation is untenable which I don’t think it is at this point in time. However, I do feel we are on the way of sports teams getting rid of the anthem prior to games as a whole and when that happens, you can count me out for good.
While I have completely shot down, beyond a shadow of a doubt, any claim of institutional racism in law enforcement that is prevalent today (not individual racism…institutional), I have been educated on the perspectives of black people that I have found interesting.
More of them have been completely asinine, like the claims from people on this forum that cops shouldn’t have different rights than citizens or that because you resist arrest that doesn’t mean your life should be in danger. That’s not hyperbole or taking it out of context on my part…that’s what some morons really believe.
But others provide a perspective that is more interesting, like the black female that told me that she got pulled over for doing nothing once and the cop claimed her windows were too darkly tinted. It provided me with that perspective that many black people actually think that they are the only ones that get pulled over when they did nothing and this never happens to white people.
I can say with great confidence that the majority of times I’ve been pulled over it was for doing nothing wrong, but having a tag that expired or a taillight out, etc. I’ve never had tinted windows on my car, but I’ve known tons of friends that have been pulled over and even given a ticket for tinted windows that were too dark. And most of the time I just accept it as the officer either saw something suspicious or was really checking for DUI. But many blacks have never understood that is how cops operate, even towards white people.
Or the person that said on Mike Francesa's show that he literally could not understand how ANY veteran/solder would be offended by the protests. As a person that is a strong advocate of civil rights, I'm offended by it as Martin Luther King never protested the flag or the anthem because he wanted to show the country that the flag and the anthem were the flag and anthem of black people because they were Americans and they represent the flag and rights and liberties that the flag represents.
I would also like to educate the protesters that their protest was just as divisive as Trump’s comments. And that yes…they are disrespecting the anthem. Just because dolts like Pete Carroll say they are not disrespecting the anthem doesn’t make it so. And because buffoons like Mike Tomlin don’t understand how they pressured their own players into not coming out for the Anthem when they wanted to which is just as bad as not allowing a person to protest. They need to understand that.
But at the same time, I think it’s important to try and keep the anti-protesters in mind as to how their voice can be heard. Burning jerseys and tickets is a start, but going after the sponsors is what will make real progress in terms of the vocal majority being heard over the vocal minority.
And then maybe, just maybe…we can start to unify as one to make football a game that we enjoy and are proud to watch and then use that ban together to attack issues of individual racism used to oppress anybody, to put forth better and more effective procedures for police and to fight the effects poverty has on minorities and to combat the epidemic of fatherless households in the black community.
I have my doubts that will happen, but you can’t make changes if you don’t try.
YR
I’m a believer in educating over protesting. Sometimes protesting can help educate, but I don't see that going on here with this protest. I want to be educated on the perspectives that are not my own and I want to educate people on my perspectives so we can better attack issues presented to us.
So by boycotting the boycotters, it pretty much goes against what I believe in. I would likely only boycott something when I find that the situation is untenable which I don’t think it is at this point in time. However, I do feel we are on the way of sports teams getting rid of the anthem prior to games as a whole and when that happens, you can count me out for good.
While I have completely shot down, beyond a shadow of a doubt, any claim of institutional racism in law enforcement that is prevalent today (not individual racism…institutional), I have been educated on the perspectives of black people that I have found interesting.
More of them have been completely asinine, like the claims from people on this forum that cops shouldn’t have different rights than citizens or that because you resist arrest that doesn’t mean your life should be in danger. That’s not hyperbole or taking it out of context on my part…that’s what some morons really believe.
But others provide a perspective that is more interesting, like the black female that told me that she got pulled over for doing nothing once and the cop claimed her windows were too darkly tinted. It provided me with that perspective that many black people actually think that they are the only ones that get pulled over when they did nothing and this never happens to white people.
I can say with great confidence that the majority of times I’ve been pulled over it was for doing nothing wrong, but having a tag that expired or a taillight out, etc. I’ve never had tinted windows on my car, but I’ve known tons of friends that have been pulled over and even given a ticket for tinted windows that were too dark. And most of the time I just accept it as the officer either saw something suspicious or was really checking for DUI. But many blacks have never understood that is how cops operate, even towards white people.
Or the person that said on Mike Francesa's show that he literally could not understand how ANY veteran/solder would be offended by the protests. As a person that is a strong advocate of civil rights, I'm offended by it as Martin Luther King never protested the flag or the anthem because he wanted to show the country that the flag and the anthem were the flag and anthem of black people because they were Americans and they represent the flag and rights and liberties that the flag represents.
I would also like to educate the protesters that their protest was just as divisive as Trump’s comments. And that yes…they are disrespecting the anthem. Just because dolts like Pete Carroll say they are not disrespecting the anthem doesn’t make it so. And because buffoons like Mike Tomlin don’t understand how they pressured their own players into not coming out for the Anthem when they wanted to which is just as bad as not allowing a person to protest. They need to understand that.
But at the same time, I think it’s important to try and keep the anti-protesters in mind as to how their voice can be heard. Burning jerseys and tickets is a start, but going after the sponsors is what will make real progress in terms of the vocal majority being heard over the vocal minority.
And then maybe, just maybe…we can start to unify as one to make football a game that we enjoy and are proud to watch and then use that ban together to attack issues of individual racism used to oppress anybody, to put forth better and more effective procedures for police and to fight the effects poverty has on minorities and to combat the epidemic of fatherless households in the black community.
I have my doubts that will happen, but you can’t make changes if you don’t try.
YR
Makes sense, because EVERY fan has the exact same view as you. Lets unionize...
hell no, my idea my embezzlementI'll collect the membership dues.
Rich you've been one of my favorite posters on this board for years, but I'm curious as you're really upset by this all why are you still here and why do you continue to watch? By the tone of your posts it feels like you want them to fail?
I fight discrimination every day, the details of which I will not describe here, but I will say I don't do it by being a sanctimonious blowhard in a football related forum."All men are created equal" doesn't do it for you?
Is that "sanctimonious " too or just words to be conveniently ignored?