Can The NFL Fans Do A No-Show One Week To Send a Message?

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JoeKing

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Bold is a copout for many. One day a person is like person x wasnt charged next day its even though person x wasn't charged they still did something. Unless you personally believe every legal case is 100% right I don't think you or anybody should use that well they got off excuse.
Cops have a right to defend themselves when they perceive a threat. PD Internal Affairs do their best to investigate these kind of shootings because NO ONE wants a dirty cop on the streets. When they find the actions of the cop was justified we can not afford to start second guessing, but that's not the case 100% of the time. Sometimes they find the cop was wrong... then the cop must be prosecuted. This is the system we have. Protesting it does no good for anyone.
 

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Cops have a right to defend themselves when they perceive a threat. PD Internal Affairs do their best to investigate these kind of shootings because NO ONE wants a dirty cop on the streets. When they find the actions of the cop was justified we can not afford to start second guessing, but that's not the case 100% of the time. Sometimes they find the cop was wrong... then the cop must be prosecuted. This is the system we have. Protesting it does no good for anyone.

This is false narrative. Police departments investigate themselves and the the DA who has relied on their testimony in court for convictions is the one that prosecutes them.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/19/how-special-rights-for-law-enforcement-m

This article goes into detail why it is nigh impossible to get rid of bad cops.
 

JoeKing

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This is false narrative. Police departments investigate themselves and the the DA who has relied on their testimony in court for convictions is the one that prosecutes them.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/19/how-special-rights-for-law-enforcement-m

This article goes into detail why it is nigh impossible to get rid of bad cops.
The woman who got the boot to the head did get reasonable payback for her actions. Cops do have to abide by the law, but everyone, even cops, deserves some slack when unreasonably provoked.
 

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This is false narrative. Police departments investigate themselves and the the DA who has relied on their testimony in court for convictions is the one that prosecutes them.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/19/how-special-rights-for-law-enforcement-m

This article goes into detail why it is nigh impossible to get rid of bad cops.

Another article filled with mistruths and errors and just not very good investigative work. And this protest was supposed to be about institutional racism in law enforcement and the article you quoted takes a look at Edward Krawetz...white cop...kicking a white woman while she was handcuffed (and she kicked him in the shin beforehand).

Krawetz didn't get back on the job...he was suspended without pay and later resigned before the committee could go over his case. But, I guess because you're a cop you're not supposed to get to have your case heard. It's just a court of public opinion that should decide the cops fate. Certainly we can never trust any DA because if a cop they relied to give testimony on was caught lying, they would never be tried for perjury. And Krawetz did receive a 10-year sentence that was suspended by the judge...not the DA.

Just like the article forgets to mention that Alfred Ferretti lost his job as did Neri, Lobianco and Laprade.

Gee, that panel in Rhode Island really seems to be doing a bad job of keeping these guys on the force.




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Can we get a roll call of anyone that's ever said "I don't mind [name your minority] but I just think they should stay with their own kind?"

Please, don't punk out. Just be honest. You're in a safe space.
 
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Another article filled with mistruths and errors and just not very good investigative work. And this protest was supposed to be about institutional racism in law enforcement and the article you quoted takes a look at Edward Krawetz...white cop...kicking a white woman while she was handcuffed (and she kicked him in the shin beforehand).

Krawetz didn't get back on the job...he was suspended without pay and later resigned before the committee could go over his case. But, I guess because you're a cop you're not supposed to get to have your case heard. It's just a court of public opinion that should decide the cops fate. Certainly we can never trust any DA because if a cop they relied to give testimony on was caught lying, they would never be tried for perjury. And Krawetz did receive a 10-year sentence that was suspended by the judge...not the DA.

Just like the article forgets to mention that Alfred Ferretti lost his job as did Neri, Lobianco and Laprade.

Gee, that panel in Rhode Island really seems to be doing a bad job of keeping these guys on the force.

YR

Did Krawetz get jail time? If the answer is no then that was not mistruth nor error. The article says he wanted his job back not that he did.

You also left out this portion of the article:

Additionally, all of those officers were working in states with a law enforcement bill of rights, and when they were all eventually disciplined, it was by a law enforcement agency other than the one they worked for.

Reading is fundamental.

Do you disagree that the bodies that convicted them were independent without a conflict of interest? Do you disagree that those cops got to keep their jobs and pay in the interim?

You of course ignored all of the articles facts about extra rights that police goet over US citizens. Do you disagree with the following?

The rights created by these bills differ from state to state, but here's how a typical police misconduct investigation works in states that have a law enforcement bill of rights in place:

A complaint is filed against an officer by a member of the public or a fellow officer. Police department leadership reviews the complaint and decides whether to investigate. If the department decides to pursue the complaint, it must inform the officer and his union. That's where the special treatment begins, but it doesn't end there.

Unlike a member of the public, the officer gets a "cooling off" period before he has to respond to any questions. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is privy to the names of his complainants and their testimony against him before he is ever interrogated. Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation is to be interrogated "at a reasonable hour," with a union member present. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can only be questioned by one person during his interrogation. Unlike a member of the public, the officer can be interrogated only "for reasonable periods," which "shall be timed to allow for such personal necessities and rest periods as are reasonably necessary." Unlike a member of the public, the officer under investigation cannot be "threatened with disciplinary action" at any point during his interrogation. If he is threatened with punishment, whatever he says following the threat cannot be used against him.

What happens after the interrogation again varies from state to state. But under nearly every law enforcement bill of rights, the following additional privileges are granted to officers: Their departments cannot publicly acknowledge that the officer is under investigation; if the officer is cleared of wrongdoing or the charges are dropped, the department may not publicly acknowledge that the investigation ever took place, or reveal the nature of the complaint. The officer cannot be questioned or investigated by "non-government agents," which means no civilian review boards. If the officer is suspended as a result of the investigation, he must continue to receive full pay and benefits until his case is resolved. In most states, the charging department must subsidize the accused officer's legal defense.

A violation of any of the above rights can result in dismissal—not of the officer, but of the charges against him.

Oh and of course are do you work in law enforcement?
 

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The woman who got the boot to the head did get reasonable payback for her actions. Cops do have to abide by the law, but everyone, even cops, deserves some slack when unreasonably provoked.

So it is okay to kick a restrained arrestee in the head? :rolleyes:
 

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Can we get a roll call of anyone that's ever said "I don't mind [name your minority] but I just think they should stay with their own kind?"

Please, don't punk out. Just be honest. You're in a safe space.
I don't think people have to say it just see how most people live their lives to tell you all you need to know. Look at their closest friends, the neighborhoods they live, dating choices etc. I think that's just how people,are overall
 

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I don't think people have to say it just see how most people live their lives to tell you all you need to know. Look at their closest friends, the neighborhoods they live, dating choices etc. I think that's just how people,are overall

Cmon now, that is a blanket statement. Contrary to belief, some of us don't move into affluent neighborhoods to avoid other races. My next door neighbor is a black family and they are great. Granted, I don't live there anymore(rented out) but they were an everyday occurance. We have held many BBQ's and pool parties together. Just maybe we want to live in a nicer house that we can afford?

One of my best friends(Jason) is an African American serving in the Navy now, have known him since 5th grade. It would be a rare occasion to be seen with him since he is overseas constantly. Also, I happen to find that Asian women are the hottest of them all :cool:

The average joe would probably never know who I associate with and judge me by where I live and who I associate with but it tells nothing about who I am.

You are correct in a way that people group up with the like-minded but in no way does it suggest anything else.........unless you want it to.
 

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I don't think people have to say it just see how most people live their lives to tell you all you need to know. Look at their closest friends, the neighborhoods they live, dating choices etc. I think that's just how people,are overall

At least no one will accuse you of being shallow and judgmental now
 

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Cmon now, that is a blanket statement. Contrary to belief, some of us don't move into affluent neighborhoods to avoid other races. My next door neighbor is a black family and they are great. Granted, I don't live there anymore(rented out) but they were an everyday occurance. We have held many BBQ's and pool parties together. Just maybe we want to live in a nicer house that we can afford?

One of my best friends(Jason) is an African American serving in the Navy now, have known him since 5th grade. It would be a rare occasion to be seen with him since he is overseas constantly. Also, I happen to find that Asian women are the hottest of them all :cool:

The average joe would probably never know who I associate with and judge me by where I live and who I associate with but it tells nothing about who I am.

You are correct in a way that people group up with the like-minded but in no way does it suggest anything else.........unless you want it to.
No expletive its a blanket statement. Did I say or pretend it wasn't? What the heck does affluent neighborhood have to do with anything? I don't want it to do nothing I'm just speaking the truth based on experience everywhere I've been. You are talking more outlier than the norm. You really about to sit here and act like the majority of people are living the rainbow coalition friendship, dating, living life? If that's you're experience great for you but life experience and just casual observation says that's usually not the case. Its not like I want it to happen that's just how it normally plays out.

At least no one will accuse you of being shallow and judgmental now
Like I give a flip esp since its the unscientific truth. They just need to waste money to prove me right.
 

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I've totally boycotted NASCAR because they tolerate the display of Confederate flags.

They appear to have survived unfortunately.

they know their audience which ironically is seemingly the people most of upset about the NFL players "disrespecting the flag"
 
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