Can we admit that Church is terrible in space yet?

[TheMarathonContinues]

Watch it again.

Why lol? Even if you're statements are true. The big plays against this defense weren't against Scandrick. Him taking poor angles or missing tackles......I don't deny he may have done that. I just hold your coverage skills in higher regard than I do your tackling skills as a corner.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Probably not very many.

Let me say it this way: we need one safety whose strength is that he can play in the box and be a sure tackler. The second has to be able to play in space that can cover slot receivers and TE's.

Church and Wilcox can do the first, but not the second.

Your right. I do think Wilcox is getting better at doing the second. I guess i'm just in the group that doesn't feel Wilcox is a finished product. Church very well may be. But I think Wilcox still has some ceiling left. His jump from last year to this year has been HUGE.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wilcox has been getting man calls on WR and TE pretty consistently. He was giving up receptions earlier in the year. The Rams, Tennessee and Chicago game stand out although he had pretty good coverage on Marshall but Church was late getting over. Lately he has been getting the assignment more often and hasn't been giving up completions. That speaks for itself.

 

[DBOY3141]

I liked Derron Smith but then I saw the Boise game. meh.

lot of hype for kid from Louisville, but he's afraid to tackle, so no way Rod wants that type of player.

 

[CyberB0b]

Any type of coverage that has Church covering a guy like Tate is a recipe for disaster. Church is a good player.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Any type of coverage that has Church covering a guy like Tate is a recipe for disaster. Church is a good player.

So you cannot ask him to pickup WR in zone coverage or come up and make a tackle in space yet he is a good player.

 

[nablives]

He looked sluggish but played OK. Reggie Bush juked him out of his boots on that TD run.

Man, I thought Reggie broke Scandrick's hips AND knees on that one. That frickin' sucked.

 

[nablives]

I know he has his legions of supporters but I for one never want to see him taking the deep middle or deep half again.

The Tate TD was an example but they called on him to bracket Megatron several times and the play from 12 yards away technique just isn't going to do.

We need a true FS in the worst way.

Yeah, Dallas does need a safety they can depend on in coverage, but where the heck do they put that on the priority list of things to do? As much as the defense is stepping up, after retaining some key guys, Dallas is probably going to need to hit on numerous players in the draft, by far on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Crown Royal]

I mean, I agree, but then again I would have said that well before we decided to put him in man coverage on Golden tate in the slot.

 

[iceberg]

I know he has his legions of supporters but I for one never want to see him taking the deep middle or deep half again.

The Tate TD was an example but they called on him to bracket Megatron several times and the play from 12 yards away technique just isn't going to do.

We need a true FS in the worst way.

you can admit whatever makes you happy.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Only problem is church is our best cover safety. I agree all our safeties are ss types. Id be down to get polamalu if the steelers move on from him.

 

[TonyRomo17]

Yup, im going into this week fully expecting the Packers not to punt, hope we hold them to FGs at least..

 

[TonyRomo17]

I'm not asking for a ball hawk. I am asking for a guy that can turn his hips and run with a guy that is 8 yards in front of him. Tate made a mediocre cut and broke Church's ankles.

Maybe Jakar Hamilton next year

 

[JBell]

When you send 6, Golden Tate shouldn't have had enough time to be able to run a double move.

That blitz has to get home. Church was left out to dry.

He did take a poor ankle on another Tate catch, but I can't fault him too much on the TD.

 

[Crown Royal]

So you cannot ask him to pickup WR in zone coverage or come up and make a tackle in space yet he is a good player.

That looked like man in over coverage to me. Wilcox was covering both Tate & Megatron deep.

 

[bevo11]

Why? Barry Church has been a big part of this team's success. I am not sure why people insist on spreading hate. We watch this team with a very critical eye, every player in the league is challenged in particular areas, dont make something out of nothing...WE DEM BOYZ!

 

[Crown Royal]

And a safety on Golden Tate is dangerous. That's a really good WR. Most safeties that's dangerous.

 

[Crown Royal]

The purpose of that play was to generate pressure. Church was in coverage because we blitzed Wilbur. It was a poorly designed and disguised play that Detroit picked up. Stafford climbed the pocket and had tate when Church stumbled at the break. Church needs to do a better job of that - not sure where the stumble came from - but Wilcox also needed to make the tackle. Church gets the primary fault, Wilcox gets a bit of it, and Marinelli can have a bite as well.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Yes. Yes, he is. And yes, the Cowboys need a big-time safety.

 

[Idgit]

I don't have a problem with our S play this season. Not like I usually do. Church has limitations you have to work around, but he also has his strengths.

That coverage on the Tate play, though, that's a scheme liability in my book. You can't have Scandrick on the TE who's in blocking and your limited coverage S carrying a WR as good as Tate alone down the field. Wilcox had to support CJ, and at that point, you're picking your poison. We've got to change that up, because it's going to get picked on this week if we don't. (Unless we changed up later in the DET game. Does anybody know if we did?)