Can we all agree that Dak is at least a decent QB?

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What weapons did Dak have against the 49ers? Name them.

zeke

 

[john van brocklin]

...much like there are members here that will defend Dak no matter what he does.

Yep, their are folks locked into both sides.
Shame more can't be a little flexible mentally round these parts.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Question:


Dak Prescott is a decent QB. He is not a Super Bowl caliber QB. You would have to surround him with HoF caliber players on offense and at a minimum have a top-five elite defense to have a chance. In fact, it may not even matter how good the defense is or how good the other 10 players of all offense are, you are still stuck with a QB that makes bonehead decisions under pressure. For comparison, Troy Aikman did not have regular season HoF stats. He did, however, play his best football during the playoffs. He thrived under pressure. How many chances are you going to give Dak before you realize he just doesn’t have” “it”? How many players’ careers are being wasted because we don’t have a Super Bowl caliber QB. It won’t surprise me if Parsons demands a trade when he sees the **** show of a team he’s on. I’m still a fan, but I’m also very realistic. The bottom line is Dak needs everything to be perfect for him to succeed. Adversity in the regular season is not the same as during the playoffs. In fact, we are seeing the Dak has already hit his ceiling and is starting to regress.

was trent dilfer a superbowl calibur QB?
was Goff a superbowl calibur QB, and who are the HOF caliber offensive players he was surronded with?
Was grapolo a superbowl calibur QB? and who are the HOF caliber offensive players he was surronded with?
Was Nickfoles a superbowl Calibur QB? and who are the HOF caliber offensive players he was surronded with

there is more if you want me to list it.

based on your statement, if you are not elite then you are surely not going to play in superbowl unless you are surronded by HOF caliber players...and if that's the case, then these other teams did it, with less than elite QBs. so its feasible.....its been done.

your premise falls apart....very quickly

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don’t think even his biggest detractors would deny he’s “decent”.

The issue is we’re in a league where teams with elite QBs win championships, and Dak has never been and will never be elite.

If he went on a 2012 Flacco run, or we had a stupidly good defense like the 2000 Ravens, he could win a Championship. But it’s stupid to waste time and resources trying to make that scenario come into fruition instead of looking to upgrade the QB - the most important position on the field.

teams like Philly with Nick Foles? if only teams with Elite QBs win championships, then there is only 3 teams in a decade that have a chance and everybody else should just pack it in. no?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

...much like there are members here that will defend Dak no matter what he does.

and there are those who will say it was the other team's defense playing bad no matter what he does.

 

[USArmyVet]

Yep, their are folks locked into both sides.
Shame more can't be a little flexible mentally round these parts.

I think the flexibility can be had but when the personal attacks and insults start that's the end of that.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

I'd venture to say he's good-very good. At times he plays like an all-pro, elite QB, and it isn't always against bad defenses. He has the skill set and physical ability to be one of the very best.

Consistency is the issue and after a few weeks of consideration, it's unfair to overlook the talent deficit at receiver last season. He CAN win big games, despite what the naysayers believe. The lack of playoff success for this franchise has been systematic since Dak was in grade school and its strange to see so many use that against him.

I like the player. I like the guy. I don't like his contract and how it hampers the team's ability to accumulate talent. I hope that when it's time to re-up, he understands what happens when one position is taking up a massive chunk of cap space, and not producing at a high level. If he and his agent choose to try to reset the market again, he deserves every bit of criticism that comes his way.

If he learns how to be consistent over the next two seasons, and make it work with lesser talent, maybe a massive contract is deserved. If not, he needs to acknowledge his downfalls, sign a deal that allows for more firepower on his side, and show that Dallas was right to stand by him.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

OMG, not another Dak thread....here come the usual suspects... Iover/under is at 15 pages

Luckily we have you to remind us of this and be all indignant like Doris Day catching Rock Hudson with two young ladies.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

To my fellow forum members who retain faith in the JAG known as Deek, tell me how much you want Prescott with the ball with 5 seconds left.
Not a pretty picture.
Never.

 

[john van brocklin]

I think the flexibility can be had but when the personal attacks and insults start that's the end of that.

Agreed, and there is no need for that.
We are all Cowboy's fans and that just uncalled for!

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Dolphins eventually moved off of Ryan Tannehill. Titans sound like they will too.

Washington decided Cousins was good but not worth investing the franchise in.

Raiders finally decided they had enough of Carr’s fringe pro bowl play.

49ers don’t want to strap their title chances to a QB as limited as Jimmy Garoppolo, regardless of how many playoff games he wins.

Jared Goff was making pro bowls but the Rams wanted more.

These are the QBs around Dak’s ranking in the NFL’s top QB lists. Dallas will hold on to Dak for as long as he’s willing to accept their paychecks. It’s a bold strategy, we’ll see if they figured out the formula everyone else seems to be missing

 

[Captain-Crash]

no

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

BS. He destroyed the GOAT in the playoffs. Against the 9’ers he lost his second best weapon, only had 1 legitimate WR and the offensive lineman played poorly. All this caused Dak to play poorly. This is a very naive and uninformed take.

Hadn't we been hearing all season long how Brady and Rodgers were done for. So Dak beat an ancient goat on his last legs that should've thrown the towel in this season. Let's not let that be our superbowl. Dak is good enough for the regular season, but doesn't have enough leadership skills to get a team that already has leadership problems from the coaching staff focused enough to play playoff football. Wildcard rounds you encounter a lot of teams that shouldn't have been there either.

 

[Asklesko]

Dak is whack.

 

[Chuck 54]

The Dak haters and Dak stans have their talking points, but what it seems to boil down too is this: Dak is an excellent regular season QB that simply fails in the playoffs. Nothing more, nothing less. It is his track record. Not winning enough in the playoff’s doesn’t mean he sucks. It means that he isn’t good enough when the stakes at highest. He is our Kirk Cousins.

Although I have supported Dak in the past, perhaps it’s time to move away from “good but not good enough.” But in reality, I see no options for this year other than stay the course and hope. I‘d like to see us draft a QB next year.

Why? Why? Are you just bored? Were you so bored that you just had to open the door and let the dogs out again? Why, man?!

 

[Walker]

Dak is a very serviceable qb. He is good/decent, he is just not a superstar.

 

[Rockport]

Hadn't we been hearing all season long how Brady and Rodgers were done for. So Dak beat an ancient goat on his last legs that should've thrown the towel in this season. Let's not let that be our superbowl. Dak is good enough for the regular season, but doesn't have enough leadership skills to get a team that already has leadership problems from the coaching staff focused enough to play playoff football. Wildcard rounds you encounter a lot of teams that shouldn't have been there either.

Brady was the 2nd best QB last year.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He's around average. He can look real good one minute and real bad the next. The problem he seems to have lately is playing well against good opponents in playoff games and he needs to stop with the interceptions. You might be able to overcome them against a bad team but you won't against good teams.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Dak haters and Dak stans have their talking points, but what it seems to boil down too is this: Dak is an excellent regular season QB that simply fails in the playoffs. Nothing more, nothing less. It is his track record. Not winning enough in the playoff’s doesn’t mean he sucks. It means that he isn’t good enough when the stakes at highest. He is our Kirk Cousins.

Although I have supported Dak in the past, perhaps it’s time to move away from “good but not good enough.” But in reality, I see no options for this year other than stay the course and hope. I‘d like to see us draft a QB next year.

He’s top 10. That is a statistical fact and a consensus to most who cover and play the game.

Who cares what a bunch of know nothing bozos think?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Preach!

Dak is more than a decent quarterback and would be able in many franchises to get to a super bowl.

Dak is not able to overcome Jerry and the front office and I don't know of any other quarterbacks that could knock it out of the park with Jerry in charge.

You can't expect to win a super bowl no matter what quarterback you are with a front office that just cares about winning enough to stay relevant.