Can we discuss DeMarco

[supercowboy8]

True but just don't break the bank to keep him.

Agreed. I also don't want to invest a early pick on a RB. I'm Fi e letting him walk and drafting mid round or late but don't expect 100 plus yards.

 

[supercowboy8]

I agree and I think in the end Jerry gets deals done with both Dez and Murray. I expect Dallas to free up some cash off of Carr, Tyron and likely Romo. I just don't see Dallas or Jerry letting this core group get away.

I agree. We can free up over 1 million just by not picking the options up on Free and Melton. I say let Free walk. Bone spurs in his foot scares me at his age.

I think we restructure Romo and Smith to free up alot of money. Also we either cut Carr or give him a free like offer.

McClain, Dez, and Murray aren't going anywhere.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree. We can free up over 1 million just by not picking the options up on Free and Melton. I say let Free walk. Bone spurs in his foot scares me at his age.

I think we restructure Romo and Smith to free up alot of money. Also we either cut Carr or give him a free like offer.

McClain, Dez, and Murray aren't going anywhere.

We also have Lee contract that Dallas may look to restructure

 

[BluMen]

He isn't doing anything that another "good" back couldn't do. He's not breaking runs to the house because he runs out of gas. The holes he hits you could run a truck thru. He didn't break that record as much as the oline!

Seriously? I'm not sure what games you are watching but at least you did give him some credit by saying he is "good". He makes guy's miss or runs through them in the hole. But in any event you are set on having a break away type guy. This offense is really tough. It forces the defense to play every down. Let's Enjoy the journey!

 

[Tabascocat]

Why isn't tagging DeMarco being talked about that much? I really don't want to see Dez tagged then hold a grudge for one season and leave because of it.

Didn't Dez say that he would feel wronged if Dallas used the franchise tag on him earlier?

The fantasy GM in me says tag Murray and get "my son" signed as soon as the last game is over.

 

[iceberg]

I'm not even certain that Randall is the answer. But can you tell me that Jeremy hill or Le'Veon Bell or some other running back of that caliber picked up in the third round of the draft couldn't do everything that DeMarco Murray did behind this offensive line?!?

can you tell me ANY BACK YOU PICK UP will get the same results as murray?

2011 draft - RBs:
round 1 - ingram
round 2 ryan willams (hey, we got him already! our 3rd rounder is whippin the skippy out of someone drafted a round ahead of him!!!)
round 3 - ridley
round 4 - helu

2012
round 1 - t Richardson. wow. you mean he could suddenly star behind our OL?
round 1 - doug martin and david Wilson. hell, david is out of the league now, isn't he? neck issues?
round 2 - pead
round 2 - james
round 3 - Hillman and pierce.

I don't see anyone on that list of the 1st 3 rounds of RB's picked that would be a lock to outperform murray.

sure you can cherry pick a name like bell, but you're out of your own choice ignoring all the other factors just to bag on murray.

old trick, pony.

 

[TwoDeep3]

No..... not at all. Just don't act like he's the 2nd coming of Adrian Peterson. He's not. He is a good back but if wants too much then move on. Remember, this is the first year he has stayed healthy. Contract year...... hmmmmm. P.S. many of the times hegot stuffed in the hole, it was Martin or TFred pushing the pile forward.

Results mean something. I don't believe 1800+ yards is a fluke.

 

[CCBoy]

Results mean something. I don't believe 1800+ yards is a fluke.

Bill Parcells would be choking and passing out on that obvious indicator...might as well say that Detroit's WR Johnson is just tall.

 

[starfrombirth]

can you tell me ANY BACK YOU PICK UP will get the same results as murray?

2011 draft - RBs:
round 1 - ingram
round 2 ryan willams (hey, we got him already! our 3rd rounder is whippin the skippy out of someone drafted a round ahead of him!!!)
round 3 - ridley
round 4 - helu

2012
round 1 - t Richardson. wow. you mean he could suddenly star behind our OL?
round 1 - doug martin and david Wilson. hell, david is out of the league now, isn't he? neck issues?
round 2 - pead
round 2 - james
round 3 - Hillman and pierce.

I don't see anyone on that list of the 1st 3 rounds of RB's picked that would be a lock to outperform murray.

sure you can cherry pick a name like bell, but you're out of your own choice ignoring all the other factors just to bag on murray.

old trick, pony.

And how many of them ran behind a line even half as good as ours???? Not a single one. Not sure how this is supposed to refute my claim about any other GOOD back behind OUR OLINE.

 

[starfrombirth]

Results mean something. I don't believe 1800+ yards is a fluke.

I don't either. I think it is a ringing endorsement of our oline with a good stable of backs. I'm not trying to say Demarco isn't good. He is. He just isn't all world. Our oline on the other hand is.

 

[iceberg]

And how many of them ran behind a line even half as good as ours???? Not a single one. Not sure how this is supposed to refute my claim about any other GOOD back behind OUR OLINE.

So thats how its gonna be.

Convo over. Night

 

[TrailBlazer]

Agreed. I also don't want to invest a early pick on a RB. I'm Fi e letting him walk and drafting mid round or late but don't expect 100 plus yards.

Legarrette Blount could run for 1,000 yards no problem with this oline

 

[Dale]

Results mean something. I don't believe 1800+ yards is a fluke.

Exactly.

Leads the league in rushing by 500 yards; is at or near the top in rushing TDs; averages nearly 5.0 yards per carry for his career.

Murray may not be Peterson, but he's legitimately a top-5 running back in this league. He can do it all.

Now, if we can't afford him, fine. I agree you can't lose five important players to help him break the bank. But let's not pretend his 1,800 yards will be turned in by anyone. We might be able to get by with a committee approach, but it will definitely be a step backward for the running game.

 

[Dale]

Legarrette Blount could run for 1,000 yards no problem with this oline

Probably so. And that would be 845 yards fewer than Murray -- not to mention the 400 receiving yards he contributes.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Seriously? I'm not sure what games you are watching but at least you did give him some credit by saying he is "good". He makes guy's miss or runs through them in the hole. But in any event you are set on having a break away type guy. This offense is really tough. It forces the defense to play every down. Let's Enjoy the journey!

He doesn't make anyone miss. He seeks out contact instead. Leaving yards on the field. His vision once he breaks the line of scrimmage isn't great, either.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I don't either. I think it is a ringing endorsement of our oline with a good stable of backs. I'm not trying to say Demarco isn't good. He is. He just isn't all world. Our oline on the other hand is.

This is a quote from a Detroit writer for SB*Nation. Evidently he isn't as certain as you seem to be.

This is the type of image you put in a coaching manual. It's the Platonic ideal of an inside zone block.

Of course, at the center of all this is Murray himself. The Cowboys could very well have produced a 1,000-yard season out of a ham sandwich this year, but Murray is more than a product of his offensive line. He's fast, he runs through tackles and he's patient. Seemingly every time defenders overpursue down the line on a zone play, Murray makes a cutback to break away for a big gain.

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2014/...t-nature-defending-the-cowboys-rushing-attack

I believe a great deal of fans here *think* this is merely the line and any of the backs on this squad can do this. But a simple fact that Murray does it week in and week out, grinding the tough yards and nearly always making the pile fall forward outweighs the mantra of "We have to see what the young guys can do."

Not diminishing Randall or Dunbar. But they are the change of pace that catches a defense flat-footed after Murray has beat on them for a while.

Murray, the Tony Romo of running backs on this board.

 

[TwoDeep3]

And how many of them ran behind a line even half as good as ours???? Not a single one. Not sure how this is supposed to refute my claim about any other GOOD back behind OUR OLINE.

Other than you cannot prove anything but Murray's numbers.

 

[supercowboy8]

Legarrette Blount could run for 1,000 yards no problem with this oline

But not 1800 and 13 TDs. If Blount was a great back he wouldn't be one so many different teams and would play more. He's no murray

 

[TrailBlazer]

But not 1800 and 13 TDs. If Blount was a great back he wouldn't be one so many different teams and would play more. He's no murray

I didn't say he was good. My point is that any back could put up big numbers with this oline.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

His legs definitely looked heavy on that one. If things go well on Sunday, would love for Randle to get a fee chances

Seriously? I'm not sure what games you are watching but at least you did give him some credit by saying he is "good". He makes guy's miss or runs through them in the hole. But in any event you are set on having a break away type guy. This offense is really tough. It forces the defense to play every down. Let's Enjoy the journey!

Agreed... watching several runs again from last week and what Murray does is not flashy but very important. He usually falls forward and has a nice acceleration in the hole. He gets between 3-8 yards so consistently and keeps the offense on schedule.