Can we discuss that play call? (56 yd FG)

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I didn't like the call. I'd rather go for it if you just want to gamble. The right choice would've been to pin them back. We were losing the field position battle already. So many woulda, coulda, shouldas. Tired of it.
 

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Bailey had enough leg. If you believe your kicker can kick a 56 yarder than you kick it. Its that simple. You don't leave points on the board. If you think he can make it and don't kick it? That's leaving points out there. He missed it. He had enough leg though.

Chargers came right down the field and got a field goal correct? Yea....didn't cost us the game. Might've been the defense and sucky offense that did that. Special teams for the most part did decent today.
 

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if it were in Pittsburgh or Seattle or someplace like that and he tried a 56 yarder then I'd be questioning him. In San Diego on a nice day, ehh...whatta ya gonna do? Bailey had the distance but missed.
 

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Punt the ball, and play field position. Not even a question what the right call was.

Of course, the way the defense was playing, it likely wouldn't have mattered.
 

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I didn't like the call. I'd rather go for it if you just want to gamble. The right choice would've been to pin them back. We were losing the field position battle already. So many woulda, coulda, shouldas. Tired of it.

It was not a good call. At all. Very bad.
On the other hand the punt would have resulted in a touchback or fair caught at the 30.
 

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It's kind of surprising they would feel comfortable from that spot. The play right before it was stupid, I thought. Basically just had the mindset of, "we're either getting a first down or we're going to kick the 56 yard field goal".

As if there's nothing in between.

Like you can't go for something short and safe just to get a little closer while still having the mindset that you're going to go for it on 4th down if you get enough yardage to make the 4th down attempt manageable.
 

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It was just another questionable JG call, his HC career has been built on questionable calls. Who knows why he makes the calls he makes at times, at least that's one thing we're consistent at. o_O
 

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Wrong time in the game to attempt from that distance. I thought it was a bad decision by Garrett
 

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It's kind of surprising they would feel comfortable from that spot. The play right before it was stupid, I thought. Basically just had the mindset of, "we're either getting a first down or we're going to kick the 56 yard field goal".

As if there's nothing in between.

Like you can't go for something short and safe just to get a little closer while still having the mindset that you're going to go for it on 4th down if you get enough yardage to make the 4th down attempt manageable.

Our offensive playcalling can barely be called good.
But that FG call for sure was one of the negative highlights of today.

Reminds me a bit of Barry Switzers 4-and-1 call ......
 
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I know Bill Parcells doesn't do it, and I doubt Jimmy Johnson would either. The percentages are just not with you on 56 yd kicks and a miss gives the other team the ball at the 46 yd line -- only 20+ yds for a more makeable fg of their own.
 

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I know Bill Parcells doesn't do it, and I doubt Jimmy Johnson would either. The percentages are just not with you on 56 yd kicks and a miss gives the other team the ball at the 46 yd line -- only 20+ yds for a more makeable fg of their own.

Yeah, I think it would be reasonable to suggest that the way Rivers has been playing this year, it was more likely the Chargers were going to get a FG from that decision than the Cowboys. Have the Cowboys ever even made a 56 yard FG? I don't really remember us making one from that distance, but I know Rivers has moved his team 25 yards on many occasions when he has got the ball with good field position.
 

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It was just another questionable JG call, his HC career has been built on questionable calls. Who knows why he makes the calls he makes at times, at least that's one thing we're consistent at. o_O


these are the types of decisions I think he will learn from. When he is finally let go as Dallas HC, he will reflect back and learn and grow. In all likelihood he will go on to be a pretty good head coach. But IMO, its gonna take him being fired so he has that time to re-evaluate everything. Needless to say, the Dallas franchise and it's fans deserve better than having a head coach learn on the job.
 

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I didn't think it was outrageous. We must have seen Bailey making them from that distance in warm-ups, or we wouldn't have tried it..

Do you honestly believe what you are saying here? Please
 

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All you have to know about this decision is when Garrett was asked about it in the press conference, according to Clarence HIll, his answer was "we had the wind." Are you kidding? That was your main reason? This man has no clue. Bailey is a money kicker from 49 and in. To ask him to make a 56 yarder in that situation shows Garrett STILL has no feel for situations and still can't understand when is a good time to try FGs. This is strike three for me with this topic. ARZ, BAL now this. This is unacceptable, I'm sorry.
 

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these are the types of decisions I think he will learn from. When he is finally let go as Dallas HC, he will reflect back and learn and grow. In all likelihood he will go on to be a pretty good head coach. But IMO, its gonna take him being fired so he has that time to re-evaluate everything. Needless to say, the Dallas franchise and it's fans deserve better than having a head coach learn on the job.

And burn up most of the careers of 2-3 HOF players in the process.
 

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All you have to know about this decision is when Garrett was asked about it in the press conference, according to Clarence HIll, his answer was "we had the wind." Are you kidding? That was your main reason? This man has no clue. Bailey is a money kicker from 49 and in. To ask him to make a 56 yarder in that situation shows Garrett STILL has no feel for situations and still can't understand when is a good time to try FGs. This is strike three for me with this topic. ARZ, BAL now this. This is unacceptable, I'm sorry.
Oh! They asked him about it in the post game presser? I sure would like to have seen him answer that one. Thanks for sharing. It deserved a question IMO.
 

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Ok. I know I am not the only one that said What the?? When they went for the long FG early. Yes. I know it's early but at that very moment you had a very tightly contested game that most would classify as a nice chess match. Why get greedy and give up the field position? A real HC would have simply lined up to pin them deep. Of course, if the FG goes through, he looks great but that is an awfully huge risk to take in that situation. As much as I like to think limiting Garrett to holistic HC duties may have actually been beneficial, he is proving that even in that role his "green" side still shows.

The ONLY way u even consider that kick is from the other hash mark. Bailey has a natural draw on his kicks and u play to that if on the right hash. Completely ****** stupid to make that decision there absent that ball position. Friggin gave away 3 points to Bolts and changed momentum.
 

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Do you honestly believe what you are saying here? Please
I think he is being reasonable enough. And I think it's gotta be brought up tomorrow in the presser with Garrett. All I have ever heard is that before every game a kicker tells his head coach "hey I am good from 53 in that direction and 50 in this direction". Now, did Bailey tell him "mid 50s I should be good" ???
And hey, I am not defending this head coach. I hope someone asks him tomorrow about it.
 
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