Can we discuss that play call? (56 yd FG)

[dupree89]

And burn up most of the careers of 2-3 HOF players in the process.

true.

 

[Clove]

If we're up by 17 points or even 14, then I wouldn't mind him trying that. Or if we HAVE to have it. But at this point in the game, it's close. Momentum is the key here and no team had it. San Diego at this time in the game hadn't figured out that you could just go no huddle and spread us out and force us out of the tampa two, and man up with linebackers. So now was the time to punt, pin them deep. He would know this if he were any good at this job.

 

[Novacek84]

Oh! They asked him about it in the post game presser? I sure would like to have seen him answer that one. Thanks for sharing. It deserved a question IMO.

Here is the link I read it in:

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/09/29/5204928/second-half-lull-spells-doom-for.html?rh=1

 

[links18]

There is no right answer to this. It was a makeable fg. It was early in the game and if you have confidence in your d, no reason not to try it. The kick had the distance, so hard to say it was a stupid call. Now, I personally would have punted it but still hard to argue with it if your kicker has the leg, which he clearly did.

A 63 yard kick is "makeable." That doesn't mean it would have been a good idea to go for a 63 yard kick there in that situation.

 

[Coy]

I was at the game, when Bailey went out, all our section sceamed "please punt it" , that's on Garrett.

 

[Doomsay]

I think he is being reasonable enough. And I think it's gotta be brought up tomorrow in the presser with Garrett. All I have ever heard is that before every game a kicker tells his head coach "hey I am good from 53 in that direction and 50 in this direction". Now, did Bailey tell him "mid 50s I should be good" ???
And hey, I am not defending this head coach. I hope someone asks him tomorrow about it.

Don't defend a garden variety apology like that. No reputable coach would have made that same mistake again and again and again like Jason has.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

It was a dumb call.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ok. I know I am not the only one that said What the?? When they went for the long FG early. Yes. I know it's early but at that very moment you had a very tightly contested game that most would classify as a nice chess match. Why get greedy and give up the field position? A real HC would have simply lined up to pin them deep. Of course, if the FG goes through, he looks great but that is an awfully huge risk to take in that situation. As much as I like to think limiting Garrett to holistic HC duties may have actually been beneficial, he is proving that even in that role his "green" side still shows.

You definitely aren't the only one. I was screaming that it was a stupid call as soon as I saw Bailey coming out. I love Bailey but thats just a horrible decision.

 

[Idgit]

I didn't think it was outrageous. We must have seen Bailey making them from that distance in warm-ups, or we wouldn't have tried it.

Do you honestly believe what you are saying here? Please

Do you honestly *not*? How is it you think HCs decide what the outer range of a FG is in a given game, exactly? That's determined weekly in the pregame warmups.

As I said, I thought it was a stretch. I'd have gone for it on 4th and 6 at that spot of the field rather than kicking or punting, but it wasn't outrageous to try a 56 yarder if your kicker is making them from that range in warmups. If he wasn't making them from there earlier, it would be a ludicrous risk to take in the actual game.

 

[links18]

Do you honestly *not*? How is it you think HCs decide what the outer range of a FG is in a given game, exactly? That's determined weekly in the pregame warmups.

As I said, I thought it was a stretch. I'd have gone for it on 4th and 6 at that spot of the field rather than kicking or punting, but it wasn't outrageous to try a 56 yarder if your kicker is making them from that range in warmups. If he wasn't making them from there earlier, it would be a ludicrous risk to take in the actual game.

It might not be outrageous depending on the game situation.

 

[theebs]

IMO, it's going to be one of those moments we talk about all year for its complete and utter disregard for common sense.

 

[Bleu Star]

I just think if you're a seasoned winning head coach, you recognize the situation and either 1) punt to pin them deep and play chess or 2) instill some confidence in our offense by going for it in no man's land. As stated, I would have easily played chess and my assumption is that a fairly large percentage of head coaches would have done the same in that situation at that time in the game. Garrett showed his inability to think rationally there. It was crystal clear.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I didn't like the call, but in all fairness, there was a game earlier this year where we kicked a 50+ yard FG and I thought we should've punted.

 

[Idgit]

It might not be outrageous depending on the game situation.

Yeah, that's true. I meant in that particular game situation it would be an unwarranted risk.

I'm not a fan who's ever going to complain too much about trying for points. I'd rather see that than playing too conservatively. It was too long for my own comfort there. But, had we gone for it instead with 6 yards to go--which is what I would do there--you can just imagine the howling about the decision. A punt that nets you 25 yards, and people would be fine. It's all about expectations.

 

[links18]

I just think if you're a seasoned winning head coach, you recognize the situation and either 1) punt to pin them deep and play chess or 2) instill some confidence in our offense by going for it in no man's land. As stated, I would have easily played chess and my assumption is that a fairly large percentage of head coaches would have done the same in that situation at that time in the game. Garrett showed his inability to think rationally there. It was crystal clear.

It more about the game situation than whether or not Bailey could possibly make a 56 yard FG.

 

[Deep_South]

I found an article from last December that said the record for a Cowboys field goal was 56 yards by Billy Cundiff in 2005. So, there has been one 56 yard FG made in the history of the Dallas Cowboys.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowb...on-garrett-thought-about-a-61-yard-field-goal

 

[links18]

Yeah, that's true. I meant in that particular game situation it would be an unwarranted risk.

I'm not a fan who's ever going to complain too much about trying for points. I'd rather see that than playing too conservatively. It was too long for my own comfort there. But, had we gone for it instead with 6 yards to go--which is what I would do there--you can just imagine the howling about the decision. A punt that nets you 25 yards, and people would be fine. It's all about expectations.

Yeah, its not liking our punter is lighting the world on fire right now.

 

[Bleu Star]

Yeah, its not liking our punter is lighting the world on fire right now.

The worst you get out of that is a punt that goes long into the end zone. If our punter can't at least put up a 25 yard net, he doesn't need to be playing at the NFL level.

 

[links18]

The worst you get out of that is a punt that goes long into the end zone. If our punter can't at least put up a 25 yard net, he doesn't need to be playing at the NFL level.

I think the argument is that a 25 yard net is not worth much, so either kick the FG or go for it. If we had Matt Briar in his prime, he probably could have killed it inside the ten.

 

[Deep_South]

Yeah, its not liking our punter is lighting the world on fire right now.

Yeah, our punter seems to have gone into a slump a couple of games ago and has never come out of it.