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Pats got to the AFC championship game last year as well. And if you can get someone to take a 2 year deal like Revis did than i'm for it. I'm not against that type of deal. I'm talking about giving Suh 100 million or giving big money to AP. Those moves aren't necessary.

That's what I am saying. You don't write anyone off. There are many ways to build a championship team.

Dallas is too successful and too committed to Romo to solely rely on the Draft. We are picking 27th next year and 32nd in 2016.

After cutting Carr, Free, Melton and Bern and re-doing Romo and Witten, Dallas can be 40m+ under the cap

They can re-sign Dez, spend big on a Suh, sign Moore, Beasley, Carter, Parnell and Spencer cheap and decide on Murray or an AP
 

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Yeah there are more results. You have the Deadskins who didn't even make the playoffs who spent money on Jason Hatcher, Desean Jackson among others. You have the Aint's who spent money on Jairus Byrd......then you have teams like the Cowboys.....who didn't really do much....picked up a few pieces here and there and drafted well and added 4 wins to their 8 win total of last season. Seems like a refreshing take on a off-season.

Don't forget the Eagles' "dream team" from a few years ago.
 

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Don't spend big money in free agency unless you can get a talent like Suh. If not, stick with value deals. We should be an attractive destination in free agency because we are a relatively young team on the rise. Re-sign key players and draft well. We should be a good team for a while but need to make good decisions this off season to keep moving up.
 

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That's what I am saying. You don't write anyone off. There are many ways to build a championship team.

Dallas is too successful and too committed to Romo to solely rely on the Draft. We are picking 27th next year and 32nd in 2016.

After cutting Carr, Free, Melton and Bern and re-doing Romo and Witten, Dallas can be 40m+ under the cap

They can re-sign Dez, spend big on a Suh, sign Moore, Beasley, Carter, Parnell and Spencer cheap and decide on Murray or an AP

I guess my stance is, i'd much rather have a few players than invest big money into Suh.
 

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I guess my stance is, i'd much rather have a few players than invest big money into Suh.

Not me. We have too many average to good guys. We need a couple studs. The cap is gonna keep going up.
 

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Exactly. Because as we all know, there is only one possible results, and that is what happened to the Broncos.

Ridiculous.

The window is now. Romo ain't getting younger.

Yes that window is closing but, mortgaging the future means you might not be able to keep the young guys that got you there in the first place. Denver tried to take shortcuts to get back to the SB and it completely unraveled when their most important player withered away down the stretch. That's why it's stupid to go all in on just one season. There are too many variables that affect the outcome and Elway's approach may be his undoing in Denver.

Dallas has gone all out before and came up empty, and those kind of setbacks put the franchise in the gutter for years trying to win games with smoke and mirrors. Romo could wither away next season or he could play his best football for the next 4 yrs...but the franchise should be prepared either way.

Dallas was successful this year because they dominated the LOS, the formula is old but still proven. They can use the draft to build the DL and McClay can continue to find FA gems. Their are some pieces to build around and first foremost the pass rush needs to be fixed.
 

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It's time to go all in. Who cares about mortgaging the future because it would actually work in our favor to tank a season or two to reload some elite talent (QB DE) after Romo retires.

Also, Jerry owes Romo and Witten a Super Bowl.
 

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You mean do what the Bronco's did that resulted in them losing in the 1st round of the playoffs?

The Broncos loss because they have an older quarterback, tried to commit to running the ball late in the year and because they signed an old/injured pass rusher. I think Romo has a few more years left, more than Manning. And, of course, Manning has been to three Super Bowls. . All we're asking is for a chance to get Romo and Witten to just one. Is that too much to ask?
 

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It's time to go all in. Who cares about mortgaging the future because it would actually work in our favor to tank a season or two to reload some elite talent (QB DE) after Romo retires.

Also, Jerry owes Romo and Witten a Super Bowl.

Mortgaging the future means you won't be able to sign guys like Frederick and Martin. Investing big dollars on guys now takes away from the guys in the future.

So now you are looking at rebuilding the OL along with a rookie QB? David Carr doesn't like this approach.
 

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I think it's worth going all in on next year. I realize we have a young team, but the window is small with a 35-year-old Romo.

I see no evidence to believe that the day Romo retires we transition seemlessly to our next franchise, Pro Bowl QB. I think the next two years will be our last chance with this group.
 

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Not me. We have too many average to good guys. We need a couple studs. The cap is gonna keep going up.

You remember what the Seahawks did two seasons ago? They picked up a few defensive linemen that ended up being a Michael Bennett and a Cliff Avril. Can you imagine what this defense would look like with those two guys on it? You have to spend your money smart and wisely.
 

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The Broncos loss because they have an older quarterback, tried to commit to running the ball late in the year and because they signed an old/injured pass rusher. I think Romo has a few more years left, more than Manning. And, of course, Manning has been to three Super Bowls. . All we're asking is for a chance to get Romo and Witten to just one. Is that too much to ask?

That overrated defense had a big part of why they lost as well.
 

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Yes that window is closing but, mortgaging the future means you might not be able to keep the young guys that got you there in the first place. Denver tried to take shortcuts to get back to the SB and it completely unraveled when their most important player withered away down the stretch. That's why it's stupid to go all in on just one season. There are too many variables that affect the outcome and Elway's approach may be his undoing in Denver.

Dallas has gone all out before and came up empty, and those kind of setbacks put the franchise in the gutter for years trying to win games with smoke and mirrors. Romo could wither away next season or he could play his best football for the next 4 yrs...but the franchise should be prepared either way.

Dallas was successful this year because they dominated the LOS, the formula is old but still proven. They can use the draft to build the DL and McClay can continue to find FA gems. Their are some pieces to build around and first foremost the pass rush needs to be fixed.

You know what this is.

This is you punting on 4th and 1 and me going for it on 4th and 6.
 

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Pats got to the AFC championship game last year as well. And if you can get someone to take a 2 year deal like Revis did than i'm for it. I'm not against that type of deal. I'm talking about giving Suh 100 million or giving big money to AP. Those moves aren't necessary.

AP might not cost that much. In fact he may be a lot cheaper than resigning Murray. Suh would be expensive. I would take Suh as the only FA splash we make and then continue to draft well. But free agency isn't as impressive if you don't draft well and lately we have been drafting well. Last year we needed oline help and Martin is rookie all pro. This year we need line help. Hopefully we can repeat the drafting success. We've been drafting well the last 3 years. I'd be happy either way. If we make a big FA splash then great but we still have to draft well and if we rely on the draft then I surprisingly have faith that we'll do it.

AP may be a reasonable priced FA instead of signing Murray.
 

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Yes that window is closing but, mortgaging the future means you might not be able to keep the young guys that got you there in the first place. Denver tried to take shortcuts to get back to the SB and it completely unraveled when their most important player withered away down the stretch. That's why it's stupid to go all in on just one season. There are too many variables that affect the outcome and Elway's approach may be his undoing in Denver.

Dallas has gone all out before and came up empty, and those kind of setbacks put the franchise in the gutter for years trying to win games with smoke and mirrors. Romo could wither away next season or he could play his best football for the next 4 yrs...but the franchise should be prepared either way.

Dallas was successful this year because they dominated the LOS, the formula is old but still proven. They can use the draft to build the DL and McClay can continue to find FA gems. Their are some pieces to build around and first foremost the pass rush needs to be fixed.

All the teams left, including Dallas got great play from their QBs for most of the season. Your QB goes down and the season usually goes with it. Dallas got great play from the OL most of the year, but they struggled a bit in the playoffs. A top QB is still the most important thing. For whatever reason, I think it's an injury, Peyton's play has really fallen off in the last month. That is why they struggled, not because of the way the team was put together.

Romo only has a couple more years and they need to take the best shot they can. When he's gone they fix any cap problems that might occur.
 

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I don't think there's a way you can structure a 100 million dollar contract when you already have 2 100 million dollar contracts and that's without counting Dez.
Do you even realise how team friendly Tyrons contract is? Dallas could restructure Tyrons deal every yr and gain cap room without killing the cap because of the amount of yrs on the deal. And will still only be 33 when his deal expires. Thats crazy to think about. Romo's contract is big but he is worth it. Dez i have a feeling is going to end up playing for 12mil this yr. Dont think Jerry will get baited into a bad deal. Hope im wrong but i dont think Dallas wants to pay the big salary per yr for a WR. I say in the range of 10-13 mil tops. Jordy Nelson is making 9.5mil a yr.
 

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AP might not cost that much. In fact he may be a lot cheaper than resigning Murray. Suh would be expensive. I would take Suh as the only FA splash we make and then continue to draft well. But free agency isn't as impressive if you don't draft well and lately we have been drafting well. Last year we needed oline help and Martin is rookie all pro. This year we need line help. Hopefully we can repeat the drafting success. We've been drafting well the last 3 years. I'd be happy either way. If we make a big FA splash then great but we still have to draft well and if we rely on the draft then I surprisingly have faith that we'll do it.

AP may be a reasonable priced FA instead of signing Murray.

AP's the best running back in football. Its hard to see why he'd take a pay cut now.
 

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AP might not cost that much. In fact he may be a lot cheaper than resigning Murray. Suh would be expensive. I would take Suh as the only FA splash we make and then continue to draft well. But free agency isn't as impressive if you don't draft well and lately we have been drafting well. Last year we needed oline help and Martin is rookie all pro. This year we need line help. Hopefully we can repeat the drafting success. We've been drafting well the last 3 years. I'd be happy either way. If we make a big FA splash then great but we still have to draft well and if we rely on the draft then I surprisingly have faith that we'll do it.

AP may be a reasonable priced FA instead of signing Murray.

I'd take Suh as our only free agent signing - well, big-time free agent signing. I think we'll resign Murray. And I still say we'll continue to draft fairly well. Drop back in the draft, collect some more draft picks. Pick up a DT or DE, a CB and maybe a RB (Gurley should be around late in the second or third). But I would focus this off season on developing the defensive line and getting a pass rusher supreme in here (if one actually exists out there. Like quarterbacks, pass rushers don't grow on trees).
 
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