Twitter: CBs: Lowest/Highest Burn Percentages

[Toruk_Makto]

So please, in very technical terms, explain your revolutionary "multiple positionless safety" theory.

Would just love to hear it.

I want both of our safeties to be rangy guys who can cover and are physical when called upon.

Revolutionary.

 

[Alexander]

I want both of our safeties to be rangy guys who can cover and are physical when called upon.

Revolutionary.

I said technical.

Apparently you cannot describe that.

Which I don't find all that surprising.

 

[Alexander]

Well this is silly. Oh Zeke is disposable after 4 years? So you think at 25 the Cowboys are going to walk away from a young special talent that they used the 4th round pick on and paid 25M dollars? That is really a thought that you had in your brain?

And I said CBs are harder to replace than RBs. That's categorically true. And it's obvious based on what they get paid in free agency.

And it's funny you said "people like me" don't do the cost analysis of players. Literally the crux of the argument is a cost benefit analysis. And oh...btw...Ramsey and Zeke were considered both as elite special talents. Continuing to argue that going Zeke over Ramsey was taking talent over...ermm...not taking talent....is again another distraction.

You should really go back into the think tank and have beter lines of questioning if you're going to needle the "Greatly preferred Ramsey" camp. Right now your defense is juvenile, short-sighted, ill thought out and badly researched.

Get out of here.

You were a screaming Ramsey homer and now Elliott is blowing all of your idiotic ideas out the water, you are deflecting.

Buh and bye.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I said technical.

Apparently you cannot describe that.

Which I don't find all that surprising.

Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. Quite boring.

But just for the record...

a) You said CBs don't play longer than RBs
b) You said we should walk away from 25 year old Zeke
c) You failed to address how it is more difficult to find CBs than RBs...presumably because you can't
d) You insinuated that Zeke is the special talent whereas Ramsey is not....even though the Cowboys themselves agonized over who to take essentially indicating they believe both prospects are similar in talent and upside.
e) You originally used the OP's post to slander Rmasey and never responded to Adam's page 1 takedown showing just how great, especially as a rookie, Ramsey has been

Yikes.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Get out of here.

You were a screaming Ramsey homer and now Elliott is blowing all of your idiotic ideas out the water, you are deflecting.

Buh and bye.

I thought from day one Zeke would be awesome behind our line. In fact our line was the reason I DID NOT want to take Zeke.

In my $500 buy-in fantasy league I took Zeke 7th overall. But please continue to tell me how/when I thought Zeke would not be good in our offense.

 

[Alexander]

I thought from day one Zeke would be awesome behind our line. In fact our line was the reason I DID NOT want to take Zeke.

In my $500 buy-in fantasy league I took Zeke 7th overall. But please continue to tell me how/when I thought Zeke would not be good in our offense.

Wait, so your claim that you invested in him your little pathetic "buy-in" league and that makes a difference?

LOL

Laughable. That basically says you lack all conviction on what you have claimed to believe in. He sucks, but yet, I am putting him on my fantasy team.

Just don't waste everyone's time if that is all you have.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Wait, so your claim that you invested in him your little pathetic "buy-in" league and that makes a difference?

LOL

Laughable. That basically says you lack all conviction on what you have claimed to believe in. He sucks, but yet, I am putting him on my fantasy team.

Just don't waste everyone's time if that is all you have.

I'd love to hear where I said Zeke would suck. I have in fact said the exact opposite.

Do you think if you yell loudly when you lie people here on the Zone will think there is some veracity to your claims? That I somehow thought Zeke "would suck?" There is a certain politician trying out that strategy. It isn't working.

 

[Proof]

Not to interject, but I haven't seen hombre disparage zeke at all. Just a logical and easily supportable belief that drafting elite corners is more prudent than elite rbs. Zeke killing it right now doesn't change the logic a single bit even if most are glad we took him now

 

[Alexander]

I'd love to hear where I said Zeke would suck. I have in fact said the exact opposite.

Since you have been a complete Ramsey fan, I must have missed your glowing reports.

And even when your boy was not selected, I did not see your posts of support or even indifference to the Elliott pick

Do you think if you yell loudly when you lie people here on the Zone will think there is some veracity to your claims? That I somehow thought Zeke "would suck?" There is a certain politician trying out that strategy. It isn't working.

Thing is, I don't care what "people here on the Zone" think.

I would hope there are some functional brains in operation and I let that part of natural selection take it's course.

 

[clff15701]

We didn't need Ramsey we now have Mo playing up to his draft stock. Zeke is leading the league in rushing how could anyone take Ramsey over Zeke?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Since you have been a complete Ramsey fan, I must have missed your glowing reports.

And even when your boy was not selected, I did not see your posts of support or even indifference to the Elliott pick


Thing is, I don't care what "people here on the Zone" think.

I would hope there are some functional brains in operation and I let that part of natural selection take it's course.

Strange. I don't think I'd waste the time to write almost 38k discreet posts at a place I was completely in different to.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I guess that means you have, well, nothing. Good to know.

You're not even capable of debating statements I actually make. So yeah, I have nothing to add to such a conversation.

 

[cowboys2233]

Not to interject, but I haven't seen hombre disparage zeke at all. Just a logical and easily supportable belief that drafting elite corners is more prudent than elite rbs. Zeke killing it right now doesn't change the logic a single bit even if most are glad we took him now

On this specific topic, anyone who thought Ramsey would have a greater positive impact on this team than Elliott because of this tired notion about the lack of value at the RB position are clueless sheep. The only thing folks have proven by taking that stance is that they have no critical thinking skills and simply defer to a line of thinking that gained some brief momentum. And the fact that they don't recognize that this is the exact model that worked so well in 2014 is really kind of stunning. That was just two years ago, people.

Change the logic. What a joke. There was never any logic to that line of thinking, it was a totally clueless fallacy that is being proven wrong before our eyes. Wake the F up.

 

[Risen Star]

Such an underrated player. Had a heck of a career. I was a big fan since the day we drafted him.

Beat it.

 

[Trouty]

Loving the trajectory in Mo's career over the past two seasons. Dude is playing lights out ball, and while he obviously isn't a Peterson or Sherman etc (i.e. top 5) CB, these numbers that keep popping up each week get me warm and fuzzy.

@Risen Star thank you, now I have that song in my head

ETA (Is this even a Mo thread? Lol, it's more a T Newman and Ramsey vs Zeke thread, but whatevs. Good as any place to post my little take).

 

[Proof]

On this specific topic, anyone who thought Ramsey would have a greater positive impact on this team than Elliott because of this tired notion about the lack of value at the RB position are clueless sheep. The only thing folks have proven by taking that stance is that they have no critical thinking skills and simply defer to a line of thinking that gained some brief momentum. And the fact that they don't recognize that this is the exact model that worked so well in 2014 is really kind of stunning. That was just two years ago, people.

Change the logic. What a joke. There was never any logic to that line of thinking, it was a totally clueless fallacy that is being proven wrong before our eyes. Wake the F up.

Not a more positive impact, an impact in a bigger area of need and at a price cheaper than the going rate. Regardless, zeke was obviously the right pick.

 

[Trouty]

I prefer yards per pass attempt counting ALL of the attempts for which the DB was on the field. If a cornerback plays an entire game in man-to-man with the opponent throwing 40 passes but is targeted only once for a 9-yard catch, he almost certainly played at an elite level. But his "burn percentage" was 100 percent, and his YPA was 9.0, both of which are terrible. Never mind that he completely shut down the opponent and allowed 0.225 yards per opponent pass attempt, which is insanely good.

Adam, how is Mo doing in this category?

 

[Proof]

Not a more positive impact, an impact in a bigger area of need and at a price cheaper than the going rate. Regardless, zeke was obviously the right pick.

And really with that being said, the argument was mostly you draft rbs later, and use your premium picks on qb, corner or pass rusher. What fortune to get Dak, Collins and brown late.
The odds of hitting on all 3 is microscopic, and yet here we are. Incredible feeling, and make the zeke and Jaylon picks that much better

 

[Trouty]

And really with that being said, the argument was mostly you draft rbs later, and use your premium picks on qb, corner or pass rusher. What fortune to get Dak, Collins and brown late.
The odds of hitting on all 3 is microscopic, and yet here we are. Incredible feeling, and make the zeke and Jaylon picks that much better

It certainly makes the Jaylon pick sting that much less, doesn't it, Proof!? Not that he will, I have hope, but burning a second that doesn't pan out stings less with all your aforementioned hits!

 

[dallasdave]

Beat it.

That's a song right???