Cbz40 Post Game Thread | Washington Commanders 6 Dallas Cowboys 7 FINAL

[Cowboy Brian]

Rough win, Deadskins have been playing tough and thought they could win it, we played the game down yet we game away with the Win, and thats all that matters, move on the Oakland on thursday and if we can come away with that win we are set 8-3 heading to split the NYG/SD series, beat NO (I honestly believe that), beat washington and loss to philly, ending 11-5.

 

[jobberone]

Execution is the key. Romo's passes were all over the place until the final offensive drive. Is it Garrett's fault that passes are thrown high or dropped? Is it his fault when Barber fumbles? Is it his fault when someone false starts or jumps offsides? We can't blame Garrett for everything. We wanted more runs, he gave us more runs. He also dialed up the pass to win it. Whatever works. I'm not gonna ***** and moan after a victory. This is the NFL. A win is freakin' win. If the players had executed better, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Yes it's his fault when players don't execute. It's his offense. Put better (or different) players in the game. Play to their strengths and all that other coaching thing they do.

You just can't criticize his play calling as much this week. It was obviously more balanced and he called the game according to the flow of the game this week. I'll give him that.

But it's his fault for a failed offense.

 

[dadymat]

Our passing game sucked all day, and then all the sudden we have one good drive with it and it one us the game? No. We were much much more effective running the ball today.

and how many points did that give us.....? when we needed 1st down it was done with the pass and when we needed a TD it was with the pass.....the running game was working but its not what ultimately won for us

 

[o9rady]

Ok and i agree with that point. But how many give Garrett the credit when the offense is clicking and they are executing? Can’t have it both ways...if you are going to give him credit for the good you also have to give him credit for the bad. Can’t pick and choose.

What??? Which game are you giving Garrett credit?? Every win? C'mon, dude, pull your head out! If Romo has 30% completion and 1 TD pass with 3 picks, but the Cowboys still win are you going to say he did a good job?

Look, it is OBVIOUS that Jason Garrett is in WAY over his head. He has NO business as an offensive coordinator at this level! NONE. Are you old enough to remember David Shula?

 

[NextGenBoys]

I said execution was a problem last week. Read my posts carefully if you want to debate.

The OFFENSE is FAILING. That's on Garrett even if the players stunk it up. It's his offense. Garrett didn't call some brilliant game here like some before. He was better this week and that's all I can give him.

I had no idea what your stance was last week. There was so many laughable Anti-Garrett posts I cant remember what was what. So no I wasnt debating, I was asking.

There is no doubt the offense is failing and Garrett is partially responsible. You'll hear no argument from me regarding that. But the lashing he was getting last week compared to the mistakes we made was a joke.

Then we go out and give the exact gameplan that many fans wanted, and they still complain about it.

It's just not rational.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

so your saying that you would feel better if the Commander fans could rake us over the coals for losing

a win is a win, ugly or not, its a win, thats all that matters at the end of the game

 

[fanfromvirginia]

I'm usually one to blame things on this coaching staff (including stupidityof the players, which I think is a coachable offense) but today I really think the offense's problem was execution. The players just didn't get it done.

Anyway, like most people in here I will take this admittedly very ugly win happily. I don't come out of the last two weeks thinking warm and fuzzy thoughts about the way this team is playing in the lead up to December. These last two games are disconcerting but let's keep in mind Dallas has won 5 of its last six games.

Our schedule is tough from here out but it's not nearly as tough as Philadelphia's or, to a lesser extent, New York's.

We've got 3 homes and 3 aways with the Thanksgiving advantage. We've got two bad opponents, 3 good but not great teams, and one undefeated.

If we beat Oakland we're in pretty good shape. If we lose, this is going to be an uphill battle.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I'm usually one to blame things on this coaching staff (including stupidityof the players, which I think is a coachable offense) but today I really think the offense's problem was execution. The players just didn't get it done.

Anyway, like most people in here I will take this admittedly very ugly win happily. I don't come out of the last two weeks thinking warm and fuzzy thoughts about the way this team is playing in the lead up to December. These last two games are disconcerting but let's keep in mind Dallas has won 5 of its last six games.

Our schedule is tough from here out but it's not nearly as tough as Philadelphia's or, to a lesser extent, New York's.

We've got 3 homes and 3 aways with the Thanksgiving advantage. We've got two bad opponents, 3 good but not great teams, and one undefeated.

If we beat Oakland we're in pretty good shape. If we lose, this is going to be an uphill battle.

Some are starting to come around...

Let me ask you this...do you think we executed better this week or last week?

 

[cowboyjoe]

I got the feeling in this game that Garrett was going out of his way to run it just to make a point. I don't think anybody is asking him to become as run happy as he has been pass happy. We just want a little more balance.

i think its more, romo got hurt, knee to lower back after the barber fumble
and afterwards romo was off target
because plays did go to wrs and tony was missing them, you cant keep throwing when wrs arent getting the ball or dropping them

 

[cowboyjoe]

got a question for you Zoners,
troy aikman in a game a few years ago, interiviewed a offensive coack and he said what they were going to do, then aikman interviewed zorn and told him what are u going to do when dallas does this

in this game, aikman interviewed jerry jones and jerry told him that felix was going to get the ball more etc,
should we keep telling aikman what were going to do, so the opposing teams can hear it from aikman and be ready for it?

 

[RainMan]

I think the fundamental reason for our struggles today came down to Romo's inaccuracy. He's money most of the time, but he was all over the place -- and you can't have your quarterback playing like that if you're going to implement a run-heavy attack.

With fewer passing opportunities, every throw had that much more importance. You can't run on first down, run on second down and then pass on third down -- only to have the throw woefully high. If you do, you're going to go 3-and-out a lot, and that's precisely what happened to us.

Now, I still think Garrett took the run-heavy stuff too far today and that might be partly to blame for Romo not finding a rhythm. Still, moving forward, it's on Romo not to have another drive-killing game like this. And I think he can do it.

Edit: Of course, umpteen penalties didn't help either.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

now we're never going back to the run LOL

 

[Hypnotoad]

now we're never going back to the run LOL

As we shouldn't. I don't like our offense as a run offense. Maybe on the Road we might look better running the ball.

Running the ball is not how I like to lose.

 

[Jenky]

got a question for you Zoners,
troy aikman in a game a few years ago, interiviewed a offensive coack and he said what they were going to do, then aikman interviewed zorn and told him what are u going to do when dallas does this

in this game, aikman interviewed jerry jones and jerry told him that felix was going to get the ball more etc,
should we keep telling aikman what were going to do, so the opposing teams can hear it from aikman and be ready for it?

I'm pretty sure that happens everywhere, at any local T.V. station. For instance, in the D.C. area Zorn spills his guts about what the team plans to do etc. I don't think it really matters. NFL teams have a good feel in regards to what other teams do or plan to do.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

In my opinion, lack of balance is the primary reason the Cowboys offense has struggled over the past two weeks. Running the ball every play is every bit as philosophically flawed as passing it every play.

This offense needs balanced play calling, which, in the modern NFL, seems to be a run-pass ratio of roughly 45-55.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I think the fundamental reason for our struggles today came down to Romo's inaccuracy. He's money most of the time, but he was all over the place -- and you can't have your quarterback playing like that if you're going to implement a run-heavy attack.

With fewer passing opportunities, every throw had that much more importance. You can't run on first down, run on second down and then pass on third down -- only to have the throw woefully high. If you do, you're going to go 3-and-out a lot, and that's precisely what happened to us.

Now, I still think Garrett took the run-heavy stuff too far today and that might be partly to blame for Romo not finding a rhythm. Still, moving forward, it's on Romo not to have another drive-killing game like this. And I think he can do it.

Edit: Of course, umpteen penalties didn't help either.

agree on the penalities, their killing us with penalities, we need to fix that, because again were going to lose a game like the green bay again on too many penalities.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I don’t agree Romo is the problem. He made that last drive...that was vintage Romo. I believe teams are taking Witten out of the game. They are not converting 3rd downs. Pass, Run, doesn’t matter...have to convert. Roy Williams has to be the worst offensive player on the field...i can’t stand him any longer. Those passes were high but catchable. Williams is a major problem in the offense. He needs to be benched.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I think the fundamental reason for our struggles today came down to Romo's inaccuracy. He's money most of the time, but he was all over the place -- and you can't have your quarterback playing like that if you're going to implement a run-heavy attack.

With fewer passing opportunities, every throw had that much more importance. You can't run on first down, run on second down and then pass on third down -- only to have the throw woefully high. If you do, you're going to go 3-and-out a lot, and that's precisely what happened to us.

Now, I still think Garrett took the run-heavy stuff too far today and that might be partly to blame for Romo not finding a rhythm. Still, moving forward, it's on Romo not to have another drive-killing game like this. And I think he can do it.

Edit: Of course, umpteen penalties didn't help either.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I don’t agree Romo is the problem. He made that last drive...that was vintage Romo. I believe teams are taking Witten out of the game. They are not converting 3rd downs. Pass, Run, doesn’t matter...have to convert. Roy Williams has to be the worst offensive player on the field...i can’t stand him any longer. Those passes were high but catchable. Williams is a major problem in the offense. He needs to be benched.

Yeah, he heated up and got into rhythm.

But prior to that last drive, he was not playing well at all, and was a reason to our offensive struggles, along with several other things.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Some are starting to come around...

Let me ask you this...do you think we executed better this week or last week?

Good question. I'm talking specifically about the offense here, just to be clear. I think we saw worse execution by the offense this week for the first 3 quarters. Our offense was actually okay the last quarter even though we didn't score on the first drive. I totally forgive them that 4th and 2 interception. Washington played that well.

For all other aspects, we executed better this week. The offense very well may have played worse last week but it was bad coaching and the like. This week we had missed passes and dropped balls galore.

And, just to reopen this can of worms, Roy was far worse this week than last although his mistakes really killed us last week. I gave him some faint praise last week but not this week.