jackrussell;1378721 said:
It's the same thing if you don't afford these 'haters' the same couple of years you used to express your hate. In the end if they don't own up to it, it would be different....but surely you can see the precedent you, and others, have set.....You took 2-3 years...expecting these people to get over and on with it in 2-3 weeks is asking a bit much.
lesse - i didn't "hate" parcells until almost 2 years into his reign. i had 2-3 specific reasons for my hate and even during that time i still gave him credit where it was due (not a backhanded compliment like vA does jones either).
when he left i was also one of the ones saying i didn't feel his tenure here was a failure. we did get better, he did give us a better foundation, i just didnt' feel he could get us over the top with his "do i have the desire" dramafests anymore.
now these people who hate jones - they're citing events from 10+ years ago for their hate. isn't that a little past the 2 years i hated parcells? (not 2-3 years, 2 years and 4 games, tops and it took all 4 games being wasted away before my hate-on was in full bloom, so 2 years and a game).
it's not the "hate" i take issue with it's the blindness it causes. VA doesn't even follow common logic in his hate and in my own, i would still try to.
for example - VA says jones is a meddling owner cause he kept (2) staff members before hiring phillips.
this would be ok *if* it were an uncommon experience. however, it's very common and all owners/gms do just such a thing.
when presented with this, it's now "but jones forced these on wade and didn't let wade make the decision"!
how does he know this? he doesn't but he allows speculation for his benefit, not for others.
*i* never got that hypocritical. if so, feel free to point it out.
i understand you're having a good time showing me up and all jack - you seem to get off on that. but let's recognize the differences that are in fact there. if my 2 years set precidence what's their 10 year hatred fest set?