Charles Woodson Willing to Play for Anyone

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TheCount;5081441 said:
I think the rookie cap has had the unintended effect of making young drafted players even more desirable for teams.

The idea was originally that the money saved on rookies would go to the vets. Instead, the bulk of it has basically gone to the Top 5% of players (primarily QBS) and teams have instead gone with drafted players knowing they'll be easy to get under contract and if they don't work out, cheaper to cut and try again.

I also think the owners knew this would be the case all along but the players probably bought the line about the money going to the vets hook-line-and-sinker.

No doubt. When you are forced to pay a guy in the top 10 up to $40M without having seen him play a down, signing an aging yet productive player seems like a better route.

I think the system sets itself up for players who can play to remain employed. If you're a guy trying to live off of 2 years ago you're probably not long for the business.
 

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Hoofbite;5081468 said:
As I said, if you think McCray's special teams contribution is greater than the contribution that Woodson would have as an every down starter, you can take this route.

Who said Woodson would be an every down starter? If he was, then why hasn't SOME team signed him? You can take this route.
 

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Hoofbite;5081468 said:
Woodson would start over everyone. Even in his worn down state he's better than any of the guys they have.

Really? Last time I checked, Church, Johnson, Allen are on the Cowboy's roster. Woodson isn't, much less on any NFL roster. So obviously Cowboy's coaches prefer those 3 over Woodson.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081470 said:
Who said Woodson would be an every down starter? If he was, then why hasn't SOME team signed him? You can take this route.

Who said Matt Johnson or Will Allen will be able to fill the role? Nobody said either but me assuming that Charles Woodson would be an every down player just as he has been for his entire career is a little more reasonable than you assuming that a career backup and guy who hasn't even been healthy enough to practice can perform to the same extent that Woodson would be able to.

The article does state that he's widened his scope from competitive teams to all teams. Maybe he's been contacted by losers and turned them down.

Maybe some of the older guys don't want to sign right away so they can enjoy a little off.

Who knows the reason. I'm sure this would be an interesting discussion for Mickey but I really don't care why he's available. Why is any player ever available?
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081471 said:
Really? Last time I checked, Church, Johnson, Allen are on the Cowboy's roster. Woodson isn't, much less on any NFL roster. So obviously Cowboy's coaches prefer those 3 over Woodson.

Do I actually have to preface that statement with "if Charles Woodson signed in Dallas"?
 

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Woodson wouldn't be a bad option if he came around the vet minimum. Great mentor to our young guys and can probably teach them a thing or two. If we had established starting safeties, then I would be against it, but we don't really know what we have with them, especially Wilcox and Johnson.
 

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No, thanks. I prefer we play the younger and cheaper players. And I'm not sure Woodson's an upgrade even over our bunch of unknowns right now. Somebody will probably find a spot for him at some point.
 

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Hoofbite;5081473 said:
Do I actually have to preface that statement with "if Charles Woodson signed in Dallas"?

Or if ANY NFL teamed signed Woodson.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081470 said:
Who said Woodson would be an every down starter? If he was, then why hasn't SOME team signed him? You can take this route.

Weak argument, why hasn't some team signed him.. Same reason no one signed Clabo until last week, most here wanted us to sign him, why was he available so late. Sometimes you wait for the best fit for you and don't make a rush decision.

The team Woodson signs with will have to be a contender, not a team rebuilding. Woodson would be a immediate upgrade to our defense and for only one year, barring injury he would play at pro bowl level, like I said barring injury....
 

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Q_the_man;5081488 said:
...The team Woodson signs with will have to be a contender, not a team rebuilding. Woodson would be a immediate upgrade to our defense and for only one year, barring injury he would play at pro bowl level, like I said barring injury....

Someone skipped the OP.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081439 said:
And cut who at either CB or Safety? Like I said, Cowboys want to see what the young guys have and can do. Mainly because they can play special teams, doubt Woodson provides that at his age.

How bout Will Allen? If anyone in our organization has a sane bone in their body, i'd cut Allen right now and sign Woodson. He'll be better at age 50 than Allen ever was.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5081494 said:
How bout Will Allen? If anyone in our organization has a sane bone in their body, i'd cut Allen right now and sign Woodson. He'll be better at age 50 than Allen ever was.

Again, why didn't the Cowboys just sign Woodson over Allen if that 's who they prefered?
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081495 said:
Again, why didn't the Cowboys just sign Woodson over Allen if that 's who they prefered?

I think you're right on this one. It's pretty obvious that Woodson is willing to make a deal, and the Cowboys would have been a sweet spot for him. Unless he's still asking for too much money.

Either way, I don't want to see us go back to bringing in old players in May. Let's see how the roster shakes out and whether or not S help is even needed.
 

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I think you're right on this one. It's pretty obvious that Woodson is willing to make a deal, and the Cowboys would have been a sweet spot for him. Unless he's still asking for too much money.

Either way, I don't want to see us go back to bringing in old players in May. Let's see how the roster shakes out and whether or not S help is even needed.

If you choose to completely ignore the OP, where it clearly says that earlier in FA, Woodson was alot more picky about where he wanted to go, and most likely about how much he wanted to be paid, as well.

He only recently decided he'd go to a team that wasn't a contender.. so we weren't even on his radar earlier when we signed Allen for the bare minimum.

Now that he's lowered his standards, i'd jump on him quick if i were the Cowboys. We have NO one at the safety position on the roster who has proven to be reliable whatsoever. It'd be silly to not add a guy like Woodson if he would come on the cheap.
 

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These arguments for playing the young guys were made in another position group a while back when we rolled with Nagy and Costa saying we needed to inject some youth.....how did that turn out...

Point is just cause you have youth there doesn't mean they deserve to start. Woodson would start for this team yesterday, we have noone that is ready to start back there and the rest are a bunch of castoffs. Will Allen, the guy who hasn't had an interception since 2005....thats who we should keep....yeah right.

You guys have to be kidding me, really. Signing a vet safety should be just as high on the list as a vet OL, except at least we have OL with experience, we have absolutely nothing at safety.
 

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RoyTheHammer;5081497 said:
Read the OP..

And now that Woodson is asking for less money, he would have been signed yesterday if the Cowboys wanted him. Obviously as of now, they don't want him.
 

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Deep_Freeze;5081503 said:
These arguments for playing the young guys were made in another position group a while back when we rolled with Nagy and Costa saying we needed to inject some youth.....how did that turn out...

Point is just cause you have youth there doesn't mean they deserve to start. Woodson would start for this team yesterday, we have noone that is ready to start back there and the rest are a bunch of castoffs. Will Allen, the guy who hasn't had an interception since 2005....thats who we should keep....yeah right.

You guys have to be kidding me, really. Signing a vet safety should be just as high on the list as a vet OL, except at least we have OL with experience, we have absolutely nothing at safety.

So the Cowboys are gonna sign Woodson because they have nothing? What are they waiting for then?
 

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PJTHEDOORS;5081506 said:
So the Cowboys are gonna sign Woodson because they have nothing? What are they waiting for then?

Probably waiting on aliens to come abduct Jerry.

Doesn't matter what they are waiting on, all we have at safety is a bunch of small school projects, Will 'havent had an INT in 8 years' Allen, and Barry 'my next INT will be my first' Church coming off a horrible injury for a DB.

What we are hoping for is a miracle. Say what you will about the OL situation, but at least we have real talent in Tyron and Frederick there now, thats just not true at all with the safety position with only a few projects for the dreamers out there.

Its disgusting really, and I sincerely hope for the miracle that the FO is apparently banking on to happen.
 
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