Charlie Weiss Quoted

[burmafrd]

OK here is a few.

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_bluegraysky_archive.html
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPORTS10/51010001

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Wow! So he did help out ** afterall :laugh1:

LOL.....


My bad, I went to FSU. I guess you could say it was a Freudian slip the likes of which, by law, are punishable by death.

 

[burmafrd]

some more
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/?m=200609
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2006/09/seeking_toughne.html
http://www.profootballtalk.com/12-16-05through12-31-05.htm

I know the last one is PFT but its fair game if all you want is speculation.
SOme of these you really have to dig into.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I find myself in a situation I dislike.

I like Charlie as a coach but I hate notre dame.

I would find it much easier if he just left notre dame.

 

[sf49rh8r]

Woody, just how many teams are willing to pay $15 million for a coach?
REALLY. Especially one who has not been a head coach at the Pro Level?

Love the debate. CW has to be the most over rated, over hyped college personality since Gino Toretta won the Heismann over Marshall Faulk. What exactly has he done to warrant such attention? Guess it's success by association? Anything connected to ND is automatically better...why? No national championships! Just a guy connected to one of if not the greatest sports hype machines ever.

On Weiss I pass. Why isn't this talk about Pete Carroll? He's actually done something. Or Urban Meyer and his gimmicky offense? Pretty much the same amount of success. Ok Meyer hasn't been an assistant coach on SB winning NFL staffs. But Weiss didn't coach in the WAC. Isn't that a wash?

 

[Aikbach]

Love the debate. CW has to be the most over rated, over hyped college personality since Gino Toretta won the Heismann over Marshall Faulk. What exactly has he done to warrant such attention? Guess it's success by association? Anything connected to ND is automatically better...why? No national championships! Just a guy connected to one of if not the greatest sports hype machines ever.

On Weiss I pass. Why isn't this talk about Pete Carroll? He's actually done something. Or Urban Meyer and his gimmicky offense? Pretty much the same amount of success. Ok Meyer hasn't been an assistant coach on SB winning NFL staffs. But Weiss didn't coach in the WAC. Isn't that a wash?

Carroll was unimpressive in New England and Weiss won three Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator in New England and made a bowl contender out of an Irish team that was seriously underachieving the two years prior to his arrival. Some of it stems from the media love for the Patriots, some of it is warranted, some of it is the strong Notre Dame expectations.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I find myself in a situation I dislike.

I like Charlie as a coach but I hate notre dame.

I would find it much easier if he just left notre dame.

We are in prefect agreement.

 

[Aikbach]

I find myself in a situation I dislike.

I like Charlie as a coach but I hate notre dame.

I would find it much easier if he just left notre dame.

If the day should come that he arrives in Dallas for something other than the Cotton Bowl then you will have your wish.

 

[sf49rh8r]

Carroll was unimpressive in New England and Weiss won three Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator in New England and made a bowl contender out of an Irish team that was seriously underachieving the two years prior to his arrival. Some of it stems from the media love for the Patriots, some of it is warranted, some of it is the strong Notre Dame expectations.

Two years prior to his arrival they had a rather impressive season considering what had been left in the cupboards. Ty left him with better talent than what he got when he arrived. Thus his success his first year. Who is to say whether or not Ty would have had the same success. The media has painted this picture that Weiss was ND's savior. Time will tell. But ND will always get the benefit of the doubt. And their criterior for making the BCS is different than that of any other team in the country.

Yes, Carroll struggled in the NFL and maybe that was due to he need to hone his coaching skills a bit more. Being a successful assistant on SB winning teams is no guarantee of ability nor success. Ask Campo, Norv, Wanstant (sp) or Crennell. Carroll is a better coach now than he was back then. And better than Weiss minus the ND hype. And I'm a UT fan, so that took a lot for me to say that.

 

[burmafrd]

If you are not smart enough to see that Weis is a much better coach then Wilingham, then thats your problem. We will ignore you.

 

[sf49rh8r]

If you are not smart enough to see that Weis is a much better coach then Wilingham, then thats your problem. We will ignore you.

And not being willing to see the media machine behind him is worthy enough for you too to be ignored.

 

[sf49rh8r]

If you are not smart enough to see that Weis is a much better coach then Wilingham, then thats your problem. We will ignore you.

He has the same exact credentials as Romeo the only difference is that he went to a better program with much more talent. In fact Romeo was the defensive coordinator and we all know that it was NE's defenses that won them Super Bowls not the offense.

 

[kTXe]

OK here is a few.

http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_bluegraysky_archive.html
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/99999999/SPORTS10/51010001

some more
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/?m=200609
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2006/09/seeking_toughne.html
http://www.profootballtalk.com/12-16-05through12-31-05.htm

I know the last one is PFT but its fair game if all you want is speculation.
SOme of these you really have to dig into.

I didn't see anything about a $15 million buyout on a single one of those links.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I didn't see anything about a $15 million buyout on a single one of those links.

If you do find it could you point it out for us as I did not see it either.

 

[THUMPER]

I didn't see anything about a $15 million buyout on a single one of those links.

Neither did I. I also searched the web and have found nothing so far.

It is obvious to me that Burmfard thought he might have heard a rumor about a possibility that something of that nature could have been somewhat likely.

 

[THUMPER]

Found something on nfl.com but it refers to a ONE-POINT-FIVE million dollar buyout which is a whole lot easier to swallow...

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8994211

Around the League: Weis back to the NFL? Click here to find out more!

Adam Schefter By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst


(Oct. 22, 2005) -- At least one NFL team has found out that it won't need the luck of the Irish to lure away Charlie Weis from Notre Dame.

Weis' six-year contract at Notre Dame includes a modest $1.5 million buyout, a number that caused one NFL head coach to remark this week, "That's it?"

That's it. The buyout means that, despite the fact that he has one of the country's most heralded recruiting classes coming in next season, Weis has positioned himself to leave Notre Dame after this season for the NFL if he so chooses.

Charlie Weis' buyout at Notre Dame is not a deal-breaker.
Charlie Weis' buyout at Notre Dame is not a deal-breaker.
And he might. Should Weis cap Notre Dame's impressive season with a win over Tennessee and then another win in a major bowl game, he could vault himself into the No. 1 coaching prospect on the radar of NFL owners.

As it is now, he already is way up there. One team, and quite possibly more, have been quietly investigating Weis behind the scenes, and finding out what kind of head coach he would be, and they love him. NFL opportunities will be there for him. This doesn't mean he is going; it just means it is under consideration. But this is a developing situation sure to get lots of attention in the weeks to come.

There certainly are going to be enough openings at the NFL level. Some NFL executives expect there to be 10 to 13 head coaching changes this offseason, a number derived from the percentages.

On average, there are six and a half coaching changes per year and 13 every two years. Last season, there were only three. That would mean there could be, minimum, 10 this offseason, though there could be more. And Weis' name will be linked to some -- guaranteed.

I believe this is from his 1st contract, not his extension.

Found another link that refers to a $1.5 million buyout... oh and this one is a Notre Dame site called "Irish Sports Report"...

http://old.irishsports.com/stories/subscription/2005/11/06/isr_football.20051106-isr-TRIB-SS22-New_contract_for_Wei.fff.sto

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

So you think I'm lying to you? Sheesh. To be perfectly honest, I have better things to do than lie to people on an internet message board.

True, you have to gaze at your Romo poster all night long

 

[Gordon]

If someone makes the right offer, and it's a team he can get excited about, he'll leave N.D. for a chance to prove he can reach the top of his profession, especially when his star QB is about to graduate..

ND has one year of "rebuiliding" ahead of them next year. Even still, they'll be competitive in every game.

2006 - 8th ranked recruiting class
2007 - 11th ranked recruiting class (so far)

In 2007, they only have 9 recruits so far or else they'd be higher. They're Average ranking per prospect is tied for highest in the nation with USC.

As far as the QB position..

2006 - Zach Frazer - 4 star prospect (#9 in the nation), Demtrius Jones - 4 star prospect (#2 in the nation)
2007 - Jimmy Claussen - 5 star prospect (#1 in the nation)

So like I said, if anything, there's going to be a one year rebuilding process, and then they'll probably be right back at the top again the following year. Weis has had some amazing recruiting classes, and there's a very bright future in ND.

 

[Rack]

Actually by your own opinions he is 100% correct.

He said you would keep denying it (aka not believe it will happen) until he is coaching in the NFL.

By what I have read you don't believe it, and don't seem to believe it...so in the end until he is coaching in the NFL you won't believe it.

Which seems to be what he said, and you are claiming he is wrong?

OWNED!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

ND has one year of "rebuiliding" ahead of them next year. Even still, they'll be competitive in every game.

2006 - 8th ranked recruiting class
2007 - 11th ranked recruiting class (so far)

In 2007, they only have 9 recruits so far or else they'd be higher. They're Average ranking per prospect is tied for highest in the nation with USC.

As far as the QB position..

2006 - Zach Frazer - 4 star prospect (#9 in the nation), Demtrius Jones - 4 star prospect (#2 in the nation)
2007 - Jimmy Claussen - 5 star prospect (#1 in the nation)

So like I said, if anything, there's going to be a one year rebuilding process, and then they'll probably be right back at the top again the following year. Weis has had some amazing recruiting classes, and there's a very bright future in ND.

Only guarantees with the domers is they:

1) will be pimped and overhyped something fierce;

2) will always come up short in the national title hunt:

3) their fans will cry about their "brutal" schedule against Navy, Army, Air Force, Rutgers, BYU, Purdue, South Bend typing school;

4) they will get at least 5 ref calls per home game; and

5) they will be too afraid to join a real conference.