Chase Daniel suggests the Bears should go after McCarthy

[cowboyec]

if he does leave.
give me mike vrable.

 

[Bigrandrn]

He'd be very good for Williams, or Lawrence in Jax.

I hope for his sake he gets out of here.

That would be crazy if he went to another team with a QB, drafted and signed who he wanted, had control, and took team to success….would say a lot about Jerry.

 

[KingCorcoran]

if he does leave.
give me mike vrable.

If McCarthy has multiple offers he’ll take the one that shows him the biggest commitment by offering the biggest compensation.

 

[Proof]

I think they'd be crazy to not have Ben Johnson as their top target this offseason, but McCarthy would be a perfect backup option in my opinion. A veteran offensive minded HC is a very good idea to bring some stability to that franchise.

You always seem to have thoughtful takes. You really buying Ben Johnson stock like that? I'm always weary of guys with stocked pantries, and the Lions are probably the most talented team in the league.

 

[thunderpimp91]

You always seem to have thoughtful takes. You really buying Ben Johnson stock like that? I'm always weary of guys with stocked pantries, and the Lions are probably the most talented team in the league.

I think its fair to always be weary of the hot shot coordinator who has never been a HC, I think thats why it would be smart of them to interview both a guy like Johnson and a guy with some HC success to his name like a McCarthy. Coordinator to HC is like going from the fun uncle to having to be the authoritarian dad. There is some crossover there, but its two completely different roles.

We can discredit the guy for working with the talent he has been given, but I think you also have to acknowledge that he has maximized pretty much every resource he has been given as well. Goff was marched out of LA by McVay just a few years ago. St Brown was a 4th round draft pick turned into one of the best WRs in football. LaPorta was a 2nd rounder who instantly became a top player at a position that typically takes some time to adjust to the NFL. Kevin Zeitler had to settle for a 1 year $6M contract this past offseason because no one really wanted him. Yeah there are some high draft picks on that offense, but thats also because they started this rebuild a couple years ago with next to nothing.

I think there is certainly some risk there, but at the same time its extremely rare to see an entire offense and not have a single player who seems to be performing under their capabilities. To me that is a little bit of luck, but also a coaching staff with amazing detail that is putting their guys in position utilize their best traits.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I've been saying Mike may have other options

I didn’t see this happening but who knows. This win streak has done him favors.

All his years of failure in GB and Dallas in the post season are wiped away because of his current run. Good for him if so. He deserves credit for whatever he does because Jerry screwed him over this offseason.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You always seem to have thoughtful takes. You really buying Ben Johnson stock like that? I'm always weary of guys with stocked pantries, and the Lions are probably the most talented team in the league.

You have to always be cautious of guys like that. I want Ben here but I think there’s an argument to be made Mike is a better fit.

 

[charron]

How many of y'all would stay knowing you will again lose more talent than you gained for the second straight year. With an aging QB who may not physically be capable of staying healthy for 17 + games.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I didn’t see this happening but who knows. This win streak has done him favors.

All his years of failure in GB and Dallas in the post season are wiped away because of his current run. Good for him if so. He deserves credit for whatever he does because Jerry screwed him over this offseason.

IMO it's simple for Mike ..........Jerry makes a 3-year offer to run it back with a limited budget for the coaching staff vs another option, Let's say the Jags make a 5 year with an unlimited budget to hire his complete staff. My point is if Mike has another option, it would force Jerry to match some conditions he's not comfortable with ( 5 years, complete control over coaching staff ). Add this to Jerry screwing him over as mentioned ........ if another team is interested, I think he's a goner.

 

[thunderpimp91]

IMO it's simple for Mike ..........Jerry makes a 3-year offer to run it back with a limited budget for the coaching staff vs another option, Let's say the Jags make a 5 year with an unlimited budget to hire his complete staff. My point is if Mike has another option, it would force Jerry to match some conditions he's not comfortable with ( 5 years, complete control over coaching staff ). Add this to Jerry screwing him over as mentioned ........ if another team is interested, I think he's a goner.

I agree with what you're saying but the issue is in the timing of it all. McCarthy wont have to interview for a job in Dallas as he would with another team. Jerry is in position to make a decision on MM right after the season is over, whereas its likely a 2-3 week process anywhere else. I'm sure Jerry would give Mike a take it or leave it, need an answer within a day or two type of offer because if he Mike says no Jerry now has to start the 2-3 week coaching search himself. Jerry, if he has any sense at all wont let Mike to get the point where he has other offers on the table.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I agree with what you're saying but the issue is in the timing of it all. McCarthy wont have to interview for a job in Dallas as he would with another team. Jerry is in position to make a decision on MM right after the season is over, whereas its likely a 2-3 week process anywhere else. I'm sure Jerry would give Mike a take it or leave it, need an answer within a day or two type of offer because if he Mike says no Jerry now has to start the 2-3 week coaching search himself. Jerry, if he has any sense at all wont let Mike to get the point where he has other offers on the table.

Think about this for a second.......You are Mike's agent. You wanna make sure your clients have as many options as possible when the season ends. The 3-4 weeks Mike has turned the tide a bit in his favor. As an agent, you trying to get a feel for what interest the three vacancies may have in him. (that's not tampering.......Mike can contact any team he wants). Now we are starting to read/hear more and more about other options he may have. How did that happen? As stated, if you have a team like the Jets, Bears or Jags who have struggled just to have winning seasons, Mike is pretty attractive.

 

[Proof]

You have to always be cautious of guys like that. I want Ben here but I think there’s an argument to be made Mike is a better fit.

but again... why? i admittedly don't know much about ben johnson, other than hearing his name surface last season and intensify this season. and i just don't know if it's a product of his coaching, or having one of the best lines, best receiving corps, best rb room etc.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If McCarthy has multiple offers he’ll take the one that shows him the biggest commitment by offering the biggest compensation.

If he gets one he will take it.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I have been saying for a while that a lot of people are assuming McCarthy will want to come back after being forced to coach on the final year of his contract.

He will either leverage it to gain things he wants changed or he may have already decided that he is better off moving to a team with a younger quarterback with a lot more cap room to work with.

If I'm him I'd choose Chicago if presented with that as a choice

Dallas is the better team and on paper but the way the last few offseasons were handled is unacceptable and a deal breaker if I'm him

Unless the Jones have been clear that they wanted to get the cap under control before becoming spenders in 2025 then I'd have no faith that they'd make the necessary moves

And if that is the case, going into a year like this with the head coach, QB, star WR all in the final year of their deals is incompetent

 

[big dog cowboy]

How many of y'all would stay knowing you will again lose more talent than you gained for the second straight year. With an aging QB who may not physically be capable of staying healthy for 17 + games.

McCarthy might not get another HC offer. So if he wants to be a HC those are conditions.

But remember, when he came here he knew Jerry had the final say and he would likely be married to Dak.

 

[charron]

McCarthy might not get another HC offer. So if he wants to be a HC those are conditions.

But remember, when he came here he knew Jerry had the final say and he would likely be married to Dak.

Hard to say. He is selling or has sold his home so I'm thinking he is gone. We don't know if his agent believes there may be interest elsewhere or not. Good agent is laying some ground work now. He might be willing to stay were guessing.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Hard to say. He is selling or has sold his home so I'm thinking he is gone. We don't know if his agent believes there may be interest elsewhere or not. Good agent is laying some ground work now. He might be willing to stay were guessing.

Just me, but I am 100% confident his agent already knows his chances of getting an offer from another team. With advanced communication technology, it's nearly impossible to stop tampering. As one former agent put it .........it's no different when the free market opens and teams sign free agent within min. My point is Jerry's attempt to sabotage MM may very well backfire in his face.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

but again... why? i admittedly don't know much about ben johnson, other than hearing his name surface last season and intensify this season. and i just don't know if it's a product of his coaching, or having one of the best lines, best receiving corps, best rb room etc.

I like his mix of running and passing the football. Great combination of big play and controlling the clock. I don’t care for the trick plays but it keeps defenses on their toes. I’m just not a fan of what I see from McCarthys offenses.

As far as the Lions personnel goes…I’ve said it in the past but these guys weren’t big name acquisitions. Gibbs is a good player but people said they drafted him too high. La Porta was good but everyone said Mayer and Kincaid were better. St Brown was a mid round pick. Sewell and Jameson were top picks. We haven’t really seen these guys without him to say if it’s him or them.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just me, but I am 100% confident his agent already knows his chances of getting an offer from another team. With advanced communication technology, it's nearly impossible to stop tampering. As one former agent put it .........it's no different when the free market opens and teams sign free agent within min. My point is Jerry's attempt to sabotage MM may very well backfire in his face.

What’s the point in sabotaging him? Not disagreeing but what was the point? Maybe so he wouldn’t have to fire him?

 

[Proof]

I like his mix of running and passing the football. Great combination of big play and controlling the clock. I don’t care for the trick plays but it keeps defenses on their toes. I’m just not a fan of what I see from McCarthys offenses.

As far as the Lions personnel goes…I’ve said it in the past but these guys weren’t big name acquisitions. Gibbs is a good player but people said they drafted him too high. La Porta was good but everyone said Mayer and Kincaid were better. St Brown was a mid round pick. Sewell and Jameson were top picks. We haven’t really seen these guys without him to say if it’s him or them.

ehh. they did draft gibbs too high imo but that's not a reflection on him as a player, just the position. he was a stud in college and predicted first/early first. however you feel about the skill players individually, collectively they are a talented bunch. looking back at amon's rookie season, his numbers did really blossom when johnson took over from anthony lynn though. so who knows.