Cheap Dak

[Diehardblues]

I lost confidence this front office/coaching staff can build a championship team long before Dak, but hope springs eternal.

If they couldn’t surround Romo with enough why do we think they will with Dak?

I’d always hoped we’d eventually get a QB who’d elevate all around him.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well right now as we speak, Dallas has an opportunity to make this a defensive juggernaut. Simply by getting Earl Thomas in here.
DLINE - check
Linebacker - check
Corner - check
Safety - ???

You value 2nd and 3rd round draft picks more than Super Bowl titles.

I’m not sure this defense can’t be enough without Earl.

Our defense is what excites me the most. We now have potentially 8 out of 11 1st and 2nd rd starters and 2 more 3rd rounders.

This is defintely most talent we’ve had on defense since at least with Parcells and possibly 90’s.

And if DL is the strength it could cause enough havoc and disruption to lend the support needed to secondary.

But with all this talent on defense if it doesn’t become Top 5 caliber it’s going to set us back for another era because I’m afraid our dominating running game won’t be enough without a great defense to meet our ultimate goals.

 

[visionary]

Who says they can't?

Exactly
Just look at all the championships over the last 10 years

 

[Bullflop]

I'm not trying to be a smart *** but if this front office/coaching staff can't build a championship team while Dak is making pennies, what gives you confidence that they can do it when he's taking up 1/7th of the salary cap.

A year or two from now he could be taking up 1/7th of the salary cap, D-Law could be on another team, and the Irving experiment could be over. That's two elite players gone and a lot of financial flexibility lost (I realize we get some back by not letting D-Law go). The sense of urgency to win now should be at an all-time high.

Dak will get his money when the time is right for it, no doubt. In the meantime, the team gets a break in their salary cap setup. If he has the type of season that calls for a healthy increase in salary, which we hope he does, I'm sure the FO will see to it that he's richly compensated. The onus is on Dak to rightfully earn that generous raise this year, that's for doggone sure.

 

[LittleD]

What confuses me is that the Cowboys under Jones have historically had an aggressive, win-now mentality that sometimes worked (e.g. Haley and Sanders acquisitions in the 90s) and sometimes didn't (e.g. Roy Williams trade).

Nowadays it seems like FO is overly cautious and scared of spending the big $ when it makes sense, like now. I wonder if Jerry is losing control in place of other conservative decision-makers...

Jerry has ceded control of the spending to Stephen and Will acquires the talent. They don't spend big bucks for old players any more. Besides, we
aren't that close to being SB competitive anyway.

 

[LittleD]

Well right now as we speak, Dallas has an opportunity to make this a defensive juggernaut. Simply by getting Earl Thomas in here.
DLINE - check
Linebacker - check
Corner - check
Safety - ???

You value 2nd and 3rd round draft picks more than Super Bowl titles.

That ship sailed during the draft. They have long sense left that interest behind. All they need is Heath and one other safety to line up on
Sunday's. Safety position is not a money5 position in the NFL.

 

[LittleD]

Is it too late to apologize to dez and get him back in here. Mix him in with these new receivers?

And hell, while we are it at, let’s call up John Kitna and have him strap on the star helmet again lol. (Say what you want about John Kitna but that dude wasn’t afraid to sling it. Be nice to open up some running lanes to run through around here)

If 31 teams don't want to sign him because of he diminishing skills and salary demands, why should we?

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak will get his money when the time is right for it, no doubt. In the meantime, the team gets a break in their salary cap setup. If he has the type of season that calls for a healthy increase in salary, which we hope he does, I'm sure the FO will see to it that he's richly compensated. The onus is on Dak to earn that hefty raise this year, that's for doggone sure.

Some would argue he’s already earned it. And simply playing for the size and length of it. Which is what Stephen suggested.

 

[visionary]

In today's salary cap I don't think that's realistic or smart for some teams. Not all teams are peaking like we seem to be with this roster. Some teams need to sacrifice the present for a better future.

If our peak is to get knocked out in rd 1 one year and completely miss the playoffs next year, then maybe its best if we don't spend any money

 

[Bullflop]

Some would argue he’s already earned it. And simply playing for the size and length of it. Which is what Stephen suggested.

Some would agree but as you know, there are those who would argue the point. I'm not one of them but they're there, nevertheless.

Last year was an unfortunate combination of things that confounded his success. Hopefully, the upcoming season will make up for it.

 

[Diehardblues]

If 31 teams don't want to sign him because of he diminishing skills and salary demands, why should we?

That’s a great question!

But remember our priorities with our dysfunctionally ran franchise don’t always revolve around sound football decisions.

 

[LittleD]

That’s a great question!

But remember our priorities with our dysfunctionally ran franchise don’t always revolve around sound football decisions.

If Romo was still our QB, I could make the case of approaching Dez cause Romo could make any receiver better. Dak and Dez never
really clicked and Dak needs a completely different type of receiver to succeed.

 

[Diehardblues]

Some would agree but as you know, there are those who would argue the point. I'm not one of them but they're there, nevertheless.

I’m on the fence. My concern is our FO isn’t on the fence. The decision has already been made.

 

[Bullflop]

I’m on the fence. My concern is our FO isn’t on the fence. The decision has already been made.

If Dak has a year that's reminiscent of last year, I'm not convinced it won't adversely affect his salary. If he does well, he'll surely reap the benefits.

 

[Diehardblues]

If Romo was still our QB, I could make the case of approaching Dez cause Romo could make any receiver better. Dak and Dez never
really clicked and Dak needs a completely different type of receiver to succeed.

And you think we’ve found those type of receivers? What kind of reciever did click with Dak?

Curious if Dez and Witten didn’t serve Daks needs . Who does?

 

[Diehardblues]

If Dak has a year that's reminiscent of last year, I'm not convinced it won't adversely affect his salary. If he does well, he'll reap the benefits.

But some have argued he had a great year until he lost valuable assets. If he loses assets again this year couldn’t that same argument be presented? For some , that Rookie season and first half last year has sold them.

And for our front office who kicked Cowboys all time leading passer to the curb for him would look kind of silly now if they went a different direction don’t you think?

 

[Bullflop]

But some have argued he had a great year until he lost valuable assets. If he loses assets again this year couldn’t that same argument be presented? For some , that Rookie season and first half last year has sold them.

And for our front office who kicked Cowboys all time leading passer to the curb for him would look kind of silly now if they went a different direction don’t you think?

Those who are arguing he had a "great year" are giving him the benefit of the doubt. I've heard Stephen saying things that indicate what he does in the upcoming season will determine how generously he'll be compensated. Nobody knows what the future holds at this early date. Negotiations will be interesting when that time arrives, no doubt. Until then, it's nothing more than speculation as to what might come in the offseason. We'll see.

 

[Diehardblues]

Those who are arguing he had a "great year" are giving him the benefit of the doubt. I've heard Stephen saying things that indicate what he does in the upcoming season will determine how generously he'll be compensated. Nobody knows what the future holds at this early date. Negotiations will be interesting when that time arrives, no doubt. Until then, it's nothing more than speculation as to what might come in the offseason. We'll see.

How would you interpret Stephens comment?
It doesn’t sound like they’re undecided on anything but how much.

 

[Diehardblues]

If Dak has a year that's reminiscent of last year, I'm not convinced it won't adversely affect his salary. If he does well, he'll surely reap the benefits.

Basically then we’re All In on Dak except for how much we’re paying him.

I’m kinda conflicted then on what we should be rooting for.

If he has another Rookie type season it could cost us over a 100 million limiting the support we could surround him in the future where if he has another 2017 season then we’ll be in better position to surround him in years ahead.

 

[LittleD]

And you think we’ve found those type of receivers? What kind of reciever did click with Dak?

Curious if Dez and Witten didn’t serve Daks needs . Who does?

He needs receivers who can create their own separation. Dak cannot pass well enough at this juncture to throw a receiver open. They are working now with young receivers who may or not pan out but they are definitely different than Dez. Most 1st year receivers never perform that well. It takes
time to hone their craft.