Chiefs- RB a priority in draft... shopping Larry Johnson? *Merge*

[Doomsday101]

I don't think LJ is going any where and I consider this more speculation than anything else no one with in the KC organization has even talked about trading LJ. I do think KC is looking to add a RB so that LJ will not be forced into carrying 416 times like he did last season.

 

[jterrell]

It's the sammich line....it is always funnier saying sammich instead of sandwich.:laugh2:


Now back to the topic of LJ.

Am I losing my marbles or was it not just a few years ago that it was rumored they offered LJ to the cowboys in a trade?

This was when Priest was still the starter and around the time that Vermeil made the quote about LJ needing to grow up or something along those lines.

Yup.
Rumor was we liked Johnson and were about ready to pounce.

Truth is, believe they let him play some more to boost his value and he exceeded their expectations.

LJ comes off as a real jerk.
Vermeil despised him and he was a big time player's coach.

 

[jterrell]

This may make a lot of people lose their lunch...

...but I am pretty sure all they wanted in return for LJ was none other than...




...Antonio Bryant.

that was the report.
head case for head case and we had the bigger one

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Am I losing my marbles or was it not just a few years ago that it was rumored they offered LJ to the cowboys in a trade?

it was just a rumor, the real trade offer from the Chiefs was for AB, and it was 2 5ths

 

[Teague31]

here in missouri it is common knowledge that LJ despises KC. IMO he leaves town as soon as he can.

 

[big dog cowboy]

here in missouri it is common knowledge that LJ despises KC. IMO he leaves town as soon as he can.

According to the guys on the radio in KC the KC front office is going to start contract talks with him after the draft. They want to lock him up long term. LJ is going to want a boat load of money and I'm not sure Carl Peterson is willing to do that.

 

[HardHittingRoy31]

Here's the link: http://www.kansascity.com/159/story/78663.html



Wow! That is huge news before the draft. If I am Dallas Trade JJ and give the #22 pick for him.:starspin

 

[PullMyFinger]

They would want more than that, but Id love to have him.

 

[Kilyin]

Dunno if I'd make that trade. I mean, Larry himself admitted he doesn't play well for white coaches.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Unless they are being cheap and dont want to show LJ the money, its all fluff.

Or maybe he's worried about his line with his pro bowlers missing and is lobbying for a trade behind the scenes

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Dunno if I'd make that trade. I mean, Larry himself admitted he doesn't play well for white coaches.

Excuse me?

Didn't he come into his own under Vermil?

Didn't he have a great career under Paterno?

What color are they? Purple?

I would love a link to that quote.

 

[Kilyin]

Excuse me?

Didn't he come into his own under Vermil?

Didn't he have a great career under Paterno?

What color are they? Purple?

I would love a link to that quote.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I agree with you.

It was on Inside the NFL, here's a youtube link and some text to back it up.

Watch the first part, and then the part at around the 4:00 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H86puijBhk

Johnson tuned out when Vermeil talked

JEFFREY FLANAGAN
The Kansas City Star

Larry Johnson, appearing in a feature with Cris Carter on HBO’s “Inside the NFL” this week, makes it clear again that he really wasn’t all that interested in playing for Dick Vermeil.

“I wouldn’t pay attention,” Johnson said of playing under Vermeil. “My eyes, I would be up in the sky. You know, I would be sleeping in my locker. I wouldn’t carry my playbook because I was just trying to get away from this building, you know, when Dick was here.”
(It should be interesting when Vermeil calls the Chiefs-Oakland game for NFL Network Dec. 23.)

Carter’s interview with Johnson, which appears at 9 tonight, also focuses on LJ’s relationship with Herm Edwards.

Carter asked LJ, “Do you think Herm Edwards, being an African-American and you being raised, of course, by an African-American, that you see a lot of similarities in Herm that you saw in your dad that made you open up to him?”
LJ’s response: “I think so. I could relate to Herman. I couldn’t do that with the other coaches I had because they had not done it. You know, they haven’t put those pads or they haven’t been in the situation as a young black athlete and know what we had to go through.

“You know, when we go out, you know, we like to go out. You know, we like to hang out. We like to have fun. But then you got to worry about the guy around the corner with the gun. You got to worry about this girl on the block. You got to worry about, you know, your parents. You got to worry about your homeboys taking advantage of you.

“There’s so much things you got to worry about being a young black athlete. And to be able to have a father like mine and have a coach like Herm, I was able to escape a lot of those realities and find myself in a new ray of light.”
Edwards also contributes to the show.

“First time I saw (Johnson), I said: ‘Are you ready? Are you ready to touch the ball 30 times a game?’ ” Edwards said. “And he kind of looked up at me, and he probably thought, ‘I haven’t even met coach yet, and he’s — what, is he messin’ with me?’ ”

 

[jimmy40]

cue up the "lets trade our whole draft and JuJo for Larry Johnson" in

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Chiefs | Running back a draft priority?
Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:12:39 -0700

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports the Kansas City Chiefs have met with some of the higher-profile running backs available in this year's NFL Draft, including California RB Marshawn Lynch and Ohio State RB Antonio Pittman. The Chiefs may look to draft a running back to serve as a backup to RB Larry Johnson. The team may also be willing to trade Johnson if the right trade offer came along.

Never happen. Wade is even whiter than Vermiel.

 

[BouncingCheese]

LJ on their mind?

Chiefs appear to be planning to draft a running back to back up or replace Johnson.

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/159/story/77543.html

Maybe the Chiefs are truly concerned about Larry Johnson’s welfare. Perhaps it’s a sign they believe he is ready to hold out or they’re preparing to trade him.
Or it could be just something as simple as the Chiefs doing their predraft homework.
Whatever the reason, they met this week at Arrowhead Stadium with at least four of the higher-profile running backs available in the coming draft: California’s Marshawn Lynch, Ohio State’s Antonio Pittman, Florida State’s Lorenzo Booker and Louisville’s Kolby Smith.
Oklahoma’s Adrian Peterson, widely considered the top running back available in the draft, did not visit with the Chiefs this week. Neither did some of the other top runners, including Arizona’s Chris Henry, Auburn’s Kenny Irons, Penn State’s Tony Hunt and Alabama’s Kenneth Darby.
The Chiefs were unavailable Thursday to speak about their motives. But the agents for all of the players said the Chiefs told them they planned to draft a running back in an early round.
“They’ve put that out there,” said Smith’s agent, Jerrold Colton. “They said they want the running-back duties shared a little more to save the wear and tear on (Johnson).”
That part makes sense. Johnson was the busiest NFL back ever last season when he set a league record with 416 carries, and coach Herm Edwards has said he would like to reduce the burden on Johnson.
Edwards also indicated recently there was a good chance the Chiefs would draft another running back.
The puzzling part is that the Chiefs are looking at some premier backs. Lynch probably will be selected by the time the Chiefs make their first pick, 23rd in the first round. Pittman is a likely second-round selection.
Booker and Smith, though, could be available in the latter half of the seven-round draft.
The Chiefs have an accomplished backup to Johnson in Michael Bennett. He didn’t help them much last year, mainly because of injuries.
But he once rushed for more than 1,000 yards with Minnesota. The Chiefs like that he’s fast and that he’s a good complement to Johnson.
Johnson and the Chiefs have worked on a new contract that would give him a raise, but they don’t have an agreement yet. Johnson has not threatened to hold out if he doesn’t get a new deal and has been participating in the offseason workout program.
The Chiefs also might be willing to trade Johnson if the right trade offer came along.


Honestly, I don't think we will get LJ, but with the Chiefs and Johnson not having yet reached an extension yet, it is worth speculation that the Cowboys would/could be interested in him. We might have to give away our 1st overall pick ( or first day pick with player-package deal), which I don't think the boys' would want to do, but we definetely have the possibility because we adressed our needs in FA, maybe Jerrah would think that he won't need those high picks this year... We wouldn't use LJ nearly as much as he was used under Herm (hopefully), but we could still pound the ball inside with a big, durable back 20 times a game to take some pressure off of Romo.

What do you guys think?

 

[CactusCowboy]

I would give them JJ and a second or third.

 

[sago1]

Why in the world would they trade such a good back as LJ. Doesn't make any sense to me. There's gotta be some kind of problem and I doubt it's their unwillingness to pay him the big bucks. Hmm. First they willing get rid of Trent Green and now maybe LJ. Who they going to get rid of next, Tony Gonzales?

 

[doomsday81]

I would give them JJ and a second or third.

And they would laugh.

 

[dogunwo]

And they would laugh.

Then smack you, and laugh again

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Why in the world would they trade such a good back as LJ. Doesn't make any sense to me. There's gotta be some kind of problem and I doubt it's their unwillingness to pay him the big bucks. Hmm. First they willing get rid of Trent Green and now maybe LJ. Who they going to get rid of next, Tony Gonzales?

LOoks like Herm is rebuilding that team. Gonzalez probably only has a few more years left. But getting rid of LJ seems sort of odd since he's young and good. But he does kind of have a ****ty attitude if I remember correctly.

 

[jobberone]

And they would laugh.

What's his contract status? He has 1000 yds rec on 100 receptions. 4200 yds on 900 carries in 4 yrs. Most of those were the last two years. He had 336 and 416 carries the last two years. He can't keep that up for too long.

He signed a contract in 2003 his rookie season. I don't know if they have renegotiated that contract or not. If he's in the last yr or two of his contract then KC would be better off getting something for him. If they don't do it soon enough then they'll get little or nothing.

RBs are bringing 2nds or less. Maybe they'll do better with him.