Chris Canty - Hybrid Thought
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Anything's possible. I still remember William 'The Refrigerator' Perry' playing fullback for Walter Payton in goalline situations.Nors said:
Two comments. I believe that the risk of sustaining a freak injury to a key player with a history of injuries during a situational play is too high. Of course, Canty would have to first prove that he can be a key player defensively. If Canty shows that he's only going to provide depth defensively, then the risk is negated.
Also, the team already has a proven and successful situational TE. His name is Jeff Robinson.
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Nors said:
Yes, a who's who of scrubs. And you can put Canty right in there with the rest of the "scrubs" considering Canty has had NILL experience at the TE position in the NFL. He is not a TE, "MIGHT" be able to play some in certain situations, but he needs to get healthy enough to play DE first.
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Versatility gives Cavs advantage
Versatility is trademark of Virginia football.
By TAFT COGHILL JR.
Date published: 9/14/2004
U.Va. coaches won't hesitate to experiment
CHARLOTTESVILLE--Virginia right guard Elton Brown has always taken pride in playing offense like a defender, relentlessly attacking opponents, no matter how big or small they may be.
After Brown viciously pancaked Temple 185-pound cornerback Andrew Turner two weeks ago, he said: "He was talking a lot. I just wanted to let him to know what 330 [pounds] felt like."
Virginia coach Al Groh has now discovered a new way to use Brown's aggressive play.
In the Cavaliers' 56-24 win over North Carolina on Saturday, Brown was in at nose guard on an important 4th-and-inches play in the first quarter.
With the help of Brown, the Cavaliers (2-0, 1-0) stuffed running back Ronnie McGill for a loss and then cruised to an easy home win.
"It was fun," said Brown, who played defensive tackle at Hampton High School. "It just adds a different dimension to our team. I already play offense with a defensive-minded approach."
Brown isn't the only Cavalier playing both sides of the ball. Linebacker Kai Parham serves as a blocking fullback, and defensive end Chris Canty occasionally lines up at tight end.Even 260-pound inside linebacker Ahmad Brooks doubles as a kickoff returner.
Versatility has quickly become the trademark of the 12th-ranked Cavaliers.
"Elton is one of our top players and Canty is a top performer," Groh said. "When your main line players help out like that it sets the standard for the rest of the team."
The Cavaliers' versatility isn't limited to those who play both offense and defense.
Running back Alvin Pearman runs, catches, blocks and returns kickoffs and punts.
Safety Marquis Weeks, a former running back, had a 100-yard kickoff return for a touchdown against the Tar Heels.
Fullback Jason Snelling can play tailback. Running back Michael Johnson is sometimes split out at wide receiver.
Players said Groh never asks who wants to play multiple positions. It's something that's understood when it comes to helping the team win.
"We've got guys like Alvin Pearman who just flat out get the job done," said quarterback Marques Hagans, who played wide receiver and punt returner last season. "It's a luxury to have all these guys who want to help out anyway they can."
Parham was a fullback, linebacker and tight end when he starred at Princess Anne High School in Virginia Beach.
The 6-foot-3, 247 pound sophomore has massive biceps, and is a nightmare for opponents when leading the way for Virginia's talented runners.
He was in on scores in both wins this season. His success at the fullback position comes as no surprise to teammates.
"Look at him," Lundy said. "Nobody wants to get in the way when he's leading."
Parham said his next goal is to score a touchdown himself. With the way things have gone, he'll more than likely get the chance.
"[Playing both ways] makes it fun out there," Parham said. "I know [Brown] likes strapping it up with the defense. I like playing offense. It's good for the team. It gives us the flexibility that we need."
Versatility is trademark of Virginia football.
By TAFT COGHILL JR.
Date published: 9/14/2004
U.Va. coaches won't hesitate to experiment
CHARLOTTESVILLE--Virginia right guard Elton Brown has always taken pride in playing offense like a defender, relentlessly attacking opponents, no matter how big or small they may be.
After Brown viciously pancaked Temple 185-pound cornerback Andrew Turner two weeks ago, he said: "He was talking a lot. I just wanted to let him to know what 330 [pounds] felt like."
Virginia coach Al Groh has now discovered a new way to use Brown's aggressive play.
In the Cavaliers' 56-24 win over North Carolina on Saturday, Brown was in at nose guard on an important 4th-and-inches play in the first quarter.
With the help of Brown, the Cavaliers (2-0, 1-0) stuffed running back Ronnie McGill for a loss and then cruised to an easy home win.
"It was fun," said Brown, who played defensive tackle at Hampton High School. "It just adds a different dimension to our team. I already play offense with a defensive-minded approach."
Brown isn't the only Cavalier playing both sides of the ball. Linebacker Kai Parham serves as a blocking fullback, and defensive end Chris Canty occasionally lines up at tight end.Even 260-pound inside linebacker Ahmad Brooks doubles as a kickoff returner.
Versatility has quickly become the trademark of the 12th-ranked Cavaliers.
"Elton is one of our top players and Canty is a top performer," Groh said. "When your main line players help out like that it sets the standard for the rest of the team."
The Cavaliers' versatility isn't limited to those who play both offense and defense.
Running back Alvin Pearman runs, catches, blocks and returns kickoffs and punts.
Safety Marquis Weeks, a former running back, had a 100-yard kickoff return for a touchdown against the Tar Heels.
Fullback Jason Snelling can play tailback. Running back Michael Johnson is sometimes split out at wide receiver.
Players said Groh never asks who wants to play multiple positions. It's something that's understood when it comes to helping the team win.
"We've got guys like Alvin Pearman who just flat out get the job done," said quarterback Marques Hagans, who played wide receiver and punt returner last season. "It's a luxury to have all these guys who want to help out anyway they can."
Parham was a fullback, linebacker and tight end when he starred at Princess Anne High School in Virginia Beach.
The 6-foot-3, 247 pound sophomore has massive biceps, and is a nightmare for opponents when leading the way for Virginia's talented runners.
He was in on scores in both wins this season. His success at the fullback position comes as no surprise to teammates.
"Look at him," Lundy said. "Nobody wants to get in the way when he's leading."
Parham said his next goal is to score a touchdown himself. With the way things have gone, he'll more than likely get the chance.
"[Playing both ways] makes it fun out there," Parham said. "I know [Brown] likes strapping it up with the defense. I like playing offense. It's good for the team. It gives us the flexibility that we need."
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Nors said:
You sure like to get a shot in at Al whenever possible. I personally think Al is the best coverage backer on the team and is the tallest. He'd do as well as anyone else covering Canty.
Like I said before, this is a bit premature. Canty has to be able to practice ant play at DE before the team starts fooling around and trying him at TE. Its possible, but not probable, especially early.
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Nors said:
A string bean who is the same size as Burnett.
Shanle must not have been all the great since he couldn't beat out Al until he got hurt.
Anyway, I agree, Al may be cut. It might be nice to have him around since he and Dat are the only vets though. Could go either way.
So, how did my agreeing with you on Canty turn into a bash Al thread?
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When I get going this could go anywhere.
The thought of an overmatched LB defending 6-7 290 Canty popped up - Als (small s for stringbean) came to mind. Remember Als was listed at 228 in his days as a backup special teamer in Tampa. He only started 1 season there. Burnett is 239 and will grow into a 245 NFL LB Frame (If his hip injury allows it)
Als is a gangly 230 pound undersized and old LB making $2M in cap....
The thought of an overmatched LB defending 6-7 290 Canty popped up - Als (small s for stringbean) came to mind. Remember Als was listed at 228 in his days as a backup special teamer in Tampa. He only started 1 season there. Burnett is 239 and will grow into a 245 NFL LB Frame (If his hip injury allows it)
Als is a gangly 230 pound undersized and old LB making $2M in cap....
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Nors said:
Jeff "All I catch is Touchdowns" Robinson.
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I think Spears is the most likely target on D to play a little Offense. He was the number one TE in the country as a high schooler. I could see him playing some goal line and 3rd TE with his size
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I don't know about Canty at TE you have to see the ball to catch it Nors
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Nors, you are a genius! Ratliff is also a former TE. So lets play Spears, Canty, and Ratliff at TE and then play Witten, Campbell, and Robinson at DE! Witten and Robinson use to play DE, not sure about Campbell.
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Occasionally lined up at TE in college = red zone threat in the NFL.Nors said:
Got it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok jks you losing it now. Can you say "Overboard"?jksmith269 said:
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Which part the part about Jerry?JackMagist said:
Its about as overboard as putting Canty at TE when you have Witten Campbell and a host of others and this is even before he learns the Defense and lets not forget he's coming off a Knee injury and eye problems. and on top of that NORS wants him to learn the TE position. Dropping all that on a rookies shoulders spells disaster IMO. Let him learn the D and get settled there then next (06) season we can toy with the IDEA IMO
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Nors said:
When smaller players are faced with bringing down a larger player what do they normally do?
Go for the Legs....
What injury is Canty coming off of? Thats right Knee....
that sounds like an accident waiting to happen IMO