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[AlterEgo]

A year ago I was prayer that Ginger would not leave. Now that clown is probably one of reasons why we're keeping StayPuff. amazing!

Unfortunately, Jerry probably needs another season to determine if the coach-in-waiting is really head coach material.

 

[WoodysGirl]

There are exception though, and Jones himself later admitted that he should have run Barry after that super bowl win, in spite of how much he loved the guy. He said he could see the teams focus and attention to detail slipping away, that discipline was bad etc etc.

The same thing applies today. There's no question this team regressed.

I agree with this, but I'm not completely sold that it's all on the coaches. I'm more inclined to put alot of it on basic player execution.

Keeping inferior coaches too long does not increase the odds of becoming a better team.

Yeah, but when you change coaches, coaching philosophy, and organizational structure every two years, you become mired in the same mediocrity you think the team is in now cuz you're searching for something that works. Very similar to the Browns and Raiders actually. Two teams that always seem to be stuck in the mud.

Wade prolly got the standard 3 year deal, with an option for a 4th. So he gets this year and if he gets the team over the hump, then he stays. The biggest thing is the team has to show some improvement. If he and team don't, then he's gone.

 

[wileedog]

Yeah, but when you change coaches, coaching philosophy, and organizational structure every two years, you become mired in the same mediocrity you think the team is in now cuz you're searching for something that works. .

Yeah those coaching and organizational overhauls in Atlanta and Miami really slowed them down this year.

 

[TD-33]

[wade]Last I checked, 9-7 is a winning record fellas.[/wade]



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Sorry bout that

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Naaa it's not the coaching, it's team chemistry so says Jerry the GM/Owner.

 

[rikolai]

Just the fact that Jerry compares Chan Gailey to Wade is bothersome.What does one have to do with the other?He needs to evaluate the MAN-not philosophies of retaining coaches...Is Jerry really becoming Al(Davis)?

 

[BigR]

One of the problems with keeping Wade is...


he couldnt even right the ship this year.

What makes anyone think he can next year.
Unless this team wins in spite of Wade... expect another heartbreak next season

there will be no heartbreak for me next season

if wade stays, i will have no expectations of winning

 

[Wezsh0T]

I never thought Wade would be fired anyway for the very reason Jerry suggested.

Making changes every two years leads to failure and constant rebuilding. I could see a change or two being made to the staff, tho.

While I agree with that statement, I can't shake the feeling that this team appears unprepared too often. They are confused on defense, lack offensive rhythm, and are out-special teamed on a weekly basis.

Granted, we have stupid players that do stupid things (e.g. Pacman, Flozell, Gurode), but it HAS to be up to the coaches to either scheme things to protect deficient players or make sure the players have so many reps that they will not make the same mistakes over and over. Which of these is being done right now?

The Eagles just looked and felt more prepared then we were. Baltimore felt the same way to me. Why does it take our backs to the wall in order for us to try a trick play or insert Pat Mcquistan at LG?

For that matter, who the heck punts on 3rd and inches when down by 24 points? Or calls for 2 screen passes on 3rd and 1 situations when the running game is effective?

I may be a stupid football fan, but if it were me, there would not have been another Cowboy punt that whole game. It matters not whether we lose by 41or 70. You try to win the game when there is no tomorrow.

I may rant, but, at the end of the day, I still wore my Cowboys t-shirt out to dinner tonight. I'm still a Cowboy fan, but, man, that game HURT.

 

[bootsy]

I am not in favor of keeping Wade or Garrett but if Jerry is going to go with this continuity thing then there needs to be some changes with playcalling, scheming, player personnel and not letting things get out into the media. He has to give Wade and Garret some kind of ultimatum and ground rules that none of the crap that went on this year will happen next year.

No more practicing without pads, cut down on the carelessness of the football from our QB, teach the WR's how to run routes, cut down on the penalties. All this nonsense has to stop next season.

 

[Ren]

continuity, that's all we need.

continuity of crap

does Jerry deep down hate us cowboys fans?

He just put us trough what in my eyes is the worst season ever and he's not done cause he's ready to do it all over again next season

 

[WoodysGirl]

Yeah those coaching and organizational overhauls in Atlanta and Miami really slowed them down this year.

And then sometimes you get lucky...

Not every overhaul generates immediate results.

 

[Wezsh0T]

And then sometimes you get lucky...

Not every overhaul generates immediate results.

Well...then the question becomes: Do we see evidence that this coaching staff can generate better results?

Yes: Wade seemed to make the defense play better after he took over, but what happened in the last two weeks? The high score wasn't all on the defense, but they weren't looking that good before that. The Baltimore game came down to the last two defensive plays. The fact remains that our defense seems to melt during pressure situations...why?

The team has winning records in two seasons...


No:

The special teams sucks and has not improved.
The offensive line sucks...
The offense doesn't seem to be able to make adjustments anymore. Last year they would come out on fire in the second half. Is it because people have picked up on JG or because the true brains behind the offense went to Miami?
The defense always seems confused...
The WRs always seem confused...
Why were we going to punt on 3rd and inches when down by how many points we were down?
The team can't tackle very well and seems to break down on the fundamentals.

 

[wileedog]

And then sometimes you get lucky...

Not every overhaul generates immediate results.

Not every attempt to establish 'continuity' develops into success. Certainly Dave Campo's team's continued to be bad. I can point to numerous coaches around the league such as Romeo Crennel or Marvin Lewis who were given ample time to have their system 'take', and all it accomplished was several more failed seasons.

Point is, this is not the same league as many years ago when the same player came into the same training camp every year to practice the same plays and execute them. Its a far more fluid league, with major players switching helmets constantly, major coaches and schemes switching constantly and everyone chasing what worked the year before.

I see zero - none, nada, nil - reason to believe that this team that regressed from 13-3 their first year to the utter embarrassment that ended this season the last two games should be "continued". That somehow next year a few lights are going to go on and they will suddenly be a gutsy, smart, well prepared and disciplined football team. None of the things they are now.

Bringing Wade and JG back for another round is just dooming one more season "just to see." Some of us have seen enough, and don't particularly care if Jerry's ego is bruised.

 

[Thomas82]

There are exception though, and Jones himself later admitted that he should have run Barry after that super bowl win, in spite of how much he loved the guy. He said he could see the teams focus and attention to detail slipping away, that discipline was bad etc etc.

The same thing applies today. There's no question this team regressed. Keeping inferior coaches too long does not increase the odds of becoming a better team.

 

[Rogerthat12]

A coaching change needs to be made in "Big D."

Jerry is being stupid by affirming Wade but ultimately the offense must be fixed.

I do think we need a new coach.

 

[MapleLeaf]

And then sometimes you get lucky...

Not every overhaul generates immediate results.

...that sometimes you have to concede that what's good for your organization is not necessarily good for the short term.

If you really take a look at Wade has done in Dallas do you really believe he can right the ship when the going gets tough again?

The problems that plagued him this year - injuries, player conflict, suspensions, etc. - does he have enough currency with the players to change his ways and force his will on them?

I think not. If he tries they may not listen to him and just run to Jerry.

What Jerry needs to look for is a situation that will overcome not only the player problems, but him as a problem also.

He was so happy to see Parcells leave and talked about how the whole organization was on pins and needles, but I believe he got the coach he needed at the time to fix what was endemic in Valley Ranch.

Oddly enough many of the problems he was facing at the end of the Campo era are back again in different faces and different forms with similar results.

I disliked the way Parcells handled player mistakes on the sideline during a game. I was happy to see him shown the door. I think there are many Parcell types who can lead the Cowboys and not make it a point of humiliating them to the point of worrying about making mistakes.

I don't think Buffalo would let this guy go, but I would look at a guy like Dick Jauron as a possible candidate. He has been burned once in the Jags organization for his hard headed ways and has found a softer approach to players.

But he is still looked upon as a disciplinarian.

 

[mrla]

continuity of crap

does Jerry deep down hate us cowboys fans?

He just put us trough what in my eyes is the worst season ever and he's not done cause he's ready to do it all over again next season [/
Worst season ever???
Are you joking??
Go back and watch the highlights...oops...lowlights from 1989 and then tell me this was the worst season ever.
Granted it ended in a very bad way but 9-7 is a world away from 1-15 in 1989!

 

[robjgrif]

Continuity of letdowns, meltdowns, and lack of discipline.

 

[MapleLeaf]

continuity of crap

does Jerry deep down hate us cowboys fans?

He just put us trough what in my eyes is the worst season ever and he's not done cause he's ready to do it all over again next season [/
Worst season ever???
Are you joking??
Go back and watch the highlights...oops...lowlights from 1989 and then tell me this was the worst season ever.
Granted it ended in a very bad way but 9-7 is a world away from 1-15 in 1989!

...89 was I knew they were a terrible team inherited from Landry and it would take time.

This is different. You can't spend time and money like this to assemble talent and have these results.

This board has teased the Eagles so much about how their window of opportunity was closing with their failures to make a run for the Lombardi.

Well I say to Cowboys fans same rule easily applies to us. We gave up draft picks and we have to take a look and see if what we have here can get us over the hump.

If not, it's just a Newman said to Aikman - "All is for naught." Those are damning words.

 

[ChrisCanty99]

The difference with Chan is that Chan had never been an NFL head coach before. He inherited the dregs of the 90s Championship team, and they were too much for him to deal with. If Chan was hired in 2001, it might've been different.

This team is a different story. Wade's got a huge NFL resume, but isn't getting it done.

There's got to be a real change, starting from Jerry himself. If the change doesn't start there, it won't go anywhere anyway.